The plant that might stop Covid-19

[snoop1130]

The plant that might stop Covid-19

By The Nation

 

 

The Department of Thai Traditional Medicine and Government Pharmaceutical Organisation will sign a memorandum of understanding next Tuesday (February 25) on research into the medicinal plant Andrographis paniculate with an eye to developing a drug that can inhibit or kill the Covid-19 virus.

 

Dr Pramote Satienrat, deputy director-general of the Traditional Medicine Department, said on Friday (February 21) that interest in the plant – also known as cleat and green chireta – was keen 10 years ago amid the SARs pandemic.

 

“We already have the genetic code of the new virus and we know it’s different from that of SARs, but Andrographis paniculata has been shown to be effective in combating the pneumonia virus and the common cold.”

 

Pramote said researchers will recruit 10 healthy volunteers, feed them a plant extract and test their blood after five days. 

 

If the results are encouraging, a serum will be developed and tested against both the SARS and CoV-2 viruses. 

 

Pramote believes an announcement can be expected within a month.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30382571

 

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[ParkerN]

 

 

Round and round and round we go.

 

Again.

 

[madmitch]

Thailand, the hub of cures for pandemics.

 

First ebola, now coronavirus.

[CraigInBangkok]

pffft ... thats not a marijuana plant!

[JustAnotherHun]

Next week they'll find out eating somtam helps to avoid the infection.

[worgeordie]

46 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Pramote said researchers will recruit 10 healthy volunteers, feed them a plant extract and test their blood after five days.

I thought you would have to have ill people to test if the plant works

or has any effect at all, does this mean they are testing healthy people

to see if it makes them ill .

regards worgeordie

 

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

I thought you would have to have ill people to test if the plant works

or has any effect at all, does this mean they are testing healthy people

to see if it makes them ill .

regards worgeordie

 

You do not want to take people whose system  is already compromised and  experiment on them, It could kill them, You take healthy people first, see what the effects are, and if those effects are not considered dangerous to those infected and seem to have desirable effects against the disease  you proceed with tests on those infected.   

[ChouDoufu]

55 minutes ago, madmitch said:

Thailand, the hub of cures for pandemics.

 

First ebola, now coronavirus.

so who's gonna tell 'em pandemics aren't furry, bamboo-eatin' critters from china?

 

[sirineou]

I read the article very carefully,

It reports on a herb that

"Andrographis paniculata has been shown to be effective in combating the pneumonia virus and the common cold. "

They admit that this is different  but that now have the  genetic code and want to do conduct tests , not endangering sick subjects.

All very reasonable assertions IMO

and the Peanut gallery goes on a self gratifying tirade against Thai people. IMO it says a lot more about them that it does about Thai people and Thailand.

The only reaction IMO should be "Great I hope it works"   

[impulse]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4032030/

 

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-973/andrographis

[justin case]

again, people with no knowledge post their bile

 

this plant is known as KING OF BITTERS

 

it stimulate the liver to do it's work

 

ideal when you have a cold/fever in stead of your chemical paracetamol/tylenol that.... INHIBITS YOUR LIVER !!!

 

been using it for years in such cases

 

but hey, remain IGNORANT about things that actually work

[metisdead]

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[GanDoonToonPet]

16 hours ago, worgeordie said:

I thought you would have to have ill people to test if the plant works

or has any effect at all, does this mean they are testing healthy people

to see if it makes them ill .

regards worgeordie

 

They're called phase 1 clinical trials. First test for side effects in healthy people - usually students.????

[Tayaout]

25 minutes ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

They're called phase 1 clinical trials. First test for side effects in healthy people - usually students.????

I have a good friend in Canada who financed many of her travels around the world by testing medecine for pharmaceutical companies. I wouldn't do it. 

[FarFlungFalang]

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Andrographis paniculata has been shown to be effective in combating the pneumonia virus

I thought pneumonia was a condition and not a virus.

 

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

 

If the results are encouraging, a serum will be developed and tested against both the SARS and CoV-2 viruses. 

COVID 19 is the disease one get when infected by the SARS COV 2 virus.

 

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

research into the medicinal plant Andrographis paniculate with an eye to developing a drug that can inhibit or kill the Covid-19 virus.

Again COVID 19 is not a virus,it's a condition caused by a virus.

[zydeco]

I don't think people should laugh at these natural remedies. The cure for malaria came from the bark of a tree.

[Tayaout]

12 minutes ago, zydeco said:

I don't think people should laugh at these natural remedies. The cure for malaria came from the bark of a tree.

Same for acetylsalicylic acid (aspirine) before it was synthetized! 

[natway09]

Whats the matter with you Thai bashers?? Should be ashamed of yourselves.

If it works yiou are all  gonna look a bit silly 

[richard_smith237]

19 minutes ago, natway09 said:

Whats the matter with you Thai bashers?? Should be ashamed of yourselves.

If it works yiou are all  gonna look a bit silly 

 

A healthy dollop of cynicism is hardly surprising when Thailands history of ‘fantastic’ announcements of finding a cure when the rest of the world struggles.

 

Thailand made wondrous announcements that it had found cures for HIV, Ebola and have previously announced a ‘coronavirus breakthrough’.

 

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/02/02/breaking-news-thai-medics-claim-coronavirus-break-through/

 

[DrTuner]

Fah talai jone, I ordered some caps from lazada couple of weeks ago, cheap. It's an antipyretic so can be used instead of paracetamol.

 

https://mb.mahidol.ac.th/en/new-look-at-an-old-remedy/

[timkeen08]

My wife just told me she has it in her herb garden.  She's been cooking with it all along and I have no side effects beyond getting older each year.  Good luck with the testing.

 

Edit:  My wife just showed me capsules from the village hospital that they give out free if people have flu symptoms.

[dcnx]

I would much prefer a plant over HIV retrovirals.

[rwill]

In Thai ->  ฟ้าทะลายโจร or Fa thalai jon (long o)

 

[Pedrogaz]

"the pneumonia virus"...a variety of bacteria, fungi and viruses can cause pneumonia....there is no such thing as "the pneumonia virus" much less has a plant been clinically effective against it.

Not to be pedantic, but it just shows the total lack of science among the doctors in Thailand. How can the nation progress with people like this as a 'deputy director-general of the Traditional Medicine Department" which is presumably a cushy government job.

[DLock]

Thai credibility in developing cures is not great.

 

https://www.voanews.com/archive/thai-inventors-claim-develop-first-aids-cure-2002-07-13

[Don Mega]

4 hours ago, natway09 said:

Whats the matter with you Thai bashers?? Should be ashamed of yourselves.

If it works yiou are all  gonna look a bit silly 

well they did cure SARS and  HIV.. so there is that.

[RichardColeman]

23 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Next week they'll find out eating somtam helps to avoid the infection.

I'd rather take my chances with the virus

[DLock]

5 hours ago, natway09 said:

Whats the matter with you Thai bashers?? Should be ashamed of yourselves.

If it works yiou are all  gonna look a bit silly 

 

Pretty sure we have absolutely nothing to worry about then.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 2/21/2020 at 6:41 PM, madmitch said:

Thailand, the hub of cures for pandemics.

 

First ebola, now coronavirus.

 

The medical wonders here never cease to amaze!!!  I simply had no idea Thailand was at the forefront of so many cutting edge, groundbreaking medical breakthroughs!!!  

 

PS - Can't they just come up with a good amulet that will do the job -- either protect the wearer from the virus, or if already infected, scare the virus out of the body???  That would be the normal way here.

 

[scubascuba3]

i thought HIV antiviral drugs were doing the trick?