National Disease Control Chief refuses to clarify Phuket coronavirus report

[tamsam6]

13 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Declines  to  confirm. Doubts? Corona Virus. Which  one? Common cold?

Let reality reign ! Not  Media  hype !

Corvid-19 is  amongst  us...undeniable.....highest risk is to  your  elderly . Not  the  stroppy younger or  small children if reasonable  self  care is taken.

Worry as  much  if  not  more  about the myriad of other things  that can infect and  destroy the body instead of  the infectious  paranoia that is  devouring  your  minds!

Your username checks out..  Seriously though, if you think the global spread of Covid-19 is being tracked and reported because it's the "Common cold" and that "reasonable self care is taken" will help protect you,  then yeah,  your username.

 

 

 

[simtemple]

12 hours ago, christophe75 said:

"You're fired !"

 

I miss Donald Trump's way...

 

Anyway. Just wait a little bit... And the good doctor will end in History's garbage bin.

 

Branded for ever as liar, lazy, paranoid, small bureaucrat, obsessive etc.

 

Along with a solid dose of lost face.

Compare what is being warned by a medical specialist in the United States with what the Thai Authorities are saying. There is a major credibility gap in Thailand. 

 

https://youtu.be/KHKis7SFDhQ

[Scott Tracy]

Why did he fly? 

To Phuket, to say nothing.

Social media seems the way to go. You can unwrite something there, or just close the site, saying, I never said that. A bit like Anutin.

The Trump runs the US that way, why not here. 

Don't fly, it gives the public the wrong impression.

[Nigel Garvie]

34 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I am not suggesting that Thailand has less numbers than the UK or any of its neighbouring countries, that said, it does spreads much quicker in colder environs, and hits those who are older or have pre-existing conditions.

 

The numbers reported worldwide could be lower because people who have had the Covid-19 and died, might have died from other causes, 

 

At the end of the day, it's just another strain, more powerful as you say and more will die, until a vaccine is made, by this time next year at the latest, all of the above said, no one is yelling out that so far the recovery rate is 54%, they only focus on the mortality rate being between 2%-4%, as they say, if you want to create a panic, you can rest assured the media will do that for you.

 

I for one have a pre-existing condition and know I will have a battle on my hands to beat it if I come down with it, e.g. as we have been told it hits the lungs, so those who have a pre-existing condition like myself,

 

The above said, keep smiling and try to stay safe as per usual. 

I have removed section of your long post that I have no comment on.

 

Para 1 ........I didn't suggest that you thought that. We don't know yet if it does spread much quicker in colder environs.

 

para 2 Yes, but they could be much higher, because many people may have had mild symptoms and not been aware that they had it. 

 

Para 3 I agree we should not panic, but neither should we ignore an obviously serious and growing problem.

 

Para 4 I also have a pre existing condition, many older people do. I wish you the best of luck with surviving yours for a long time.

[OffshoreMig]

Close down the VFS bio-metric data collection centres i Asia. They are a
serious risk of infecting and transmitting the Covid19 virus. They are
unnecessary and outdated. Over a thousand people attend these centres a
day to have their finger prinst recorded. This information is already
recorded in applicant who hold an e=passport. The centre are akin to a
airport lounge or check-in desk. They are crowed, lifts, waiting rooms .
document handling and the bio metric data equipment are all sources of
cross infection.Those attending these centres are planning on travel.
If effected they will board tens to hundreds of planes in the near
future. Given they are bot required and that documents can be submitted
on line closing down thee centres would reduce the. risks involved.,

[4MyEgo]

4 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I have removed section of your long post that I have no comment on.

 

Para 1 ........I didn't suggest that you thought that. We don't know yet if it does spread much quicker in colder environs.

 

para 2 Yes, but they could be much higher, because many people may have had mild symptoms and not been aware that they had it. 

 

Para 3 I agree we should not panic, but neither should we ignore an obviously serious and growing problem.

 

Para 4 I also have a pre existing condition, many older people do. I wish you the best of luck with surviving yours for a long time.

If you are referring to my post as long, you haven't read my others.....lol

 

Para 1 Perhaps I misread what you wrote, that said, I read this earlier, whether it has any relevance ?  

 

CORONAVIRUS could spread quicker in cold weather, experts are warning.

Scientists say just like the flu, deadly Covid-19 will be more powerful in cool, dry air - as colder temperatures will allow the bug to multiply easier and spread faster.

 

Para 2 I was referring to the mortality rates being reported, not those infected.

 

Para 3 Not ignoring this at all, just accepting that it is out there and as there is no vaccine, what precautions we have to take to try best to avoid it until such a time that they come up with a vaccine, whilst trying not live in a bubble, if at all possible.

 

Para 4

 

[robsamui]

12 hours ago, madmitch said:

If this gobbledegook is repeated at hospitals throughout Thailand then there's absolutely no way that accurate figures are ever going to be released.

 

Regardless of the number of cases, Thailand is not exactly coming up smelling of roses right now.

 

 

Wait for the hammer to fall big-time - any week now . . .

[P100]

14 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

Ah; The Land of Denial !

LOD

[Farangwithaplan]

It seems they are playing from the same songbook as The US leader. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-invents-coronavirus-death-rate-on-sean-hannitys-fox-news-show?ref=home

 

The President even suggesting people can still go to work if they are infected in some instances. Absolutely astounding.

[cardinalblue]

For expats in the north, air pollution is a much greater danger to one’s health....everyone’s health is affected to some degree...so far one known Corona case in CM...

 

air pollution is a blanket; corona transmission occurs in a cluster

 

of the 11 deaths in usa, ten in the same small area in Washington state

 

yet people in the north are more worried about the virus than the air pollution....amazing thailand

[Dumbastheycome]

27 minutes ago, tamsam6 said:

 

Any new organism notified to the WHO is tracked and monitored. Not necessarily on the basis of  mortal  danger but on the potential to mutate and become so. Nor are only organisms that infect people but those that are discovered and identified in domestic animals and  birds for same reason.

How  many people are aware of the recent resurgence of  Avian influenza ( Bird Flu)(H5N1) but that it is obscured  in relevance  by Corvid-19 despite a mortality rate of  at  least 60% ! Over the last  50 years more than three hundred infectious diseases have either newly emerged or reemerged, appearing in territories where they’ve never been seen before. And some of those that have reemerged are proving difficult due to acquired resistance to treatment.

At  no time have I attempted  to denigrate the  seriousness of CORVID-19 to the same as the  common cold.

I was making a distinction between the two which is lost when simply referring to  a corona virus which the common cold is!

An suitable analogy in reference to my comment may be is that if when a person is crossing the road and only looks one way there is a good  chance they will  get  whacked by something  coming in the other direction !

 

[Cake Monster]

This this guy an understudy for that idiot Anutin

He seems just as capable of big foot in big gob

PppLllleeeease will somebody with an ounce of knowledge and some intelligence within the powers that be, get a grip on this situation in Thailand before the Country become a massive Petri Dish for Covid19

 

 

 

 

[Krataiboy]

13 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Many posters on TV are over 60 and have pre existing medical conditions. Is it OK if we worry?

I think you are meant to.

[Nanaplaza666]

Bleu is the new pink

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

14 hours ago, christophe75 said:

"You're fired !"

 

I miss Donald Trump's way...

 

Anyway. Just wait a little bit... And the good doctor will end in History's garbage bin.

 

Branded for ever as liar, lazy, paranoid, small bureaucrat, obsessive etc.

 

Along with a solid dose of lost face.

 

Perhaps after Anutin's latest antics, it's because all government bureaucrats are now only allowed to say publicly what the BKK-based CV management committee headed by the PM has allowed them to say, and anything beyond that is out of bounds.  Just speculating....

 

[Tchooptip]

Where is the country of the biggest liars? ????

I would not say it ... but it is not far ????

[Bkk Brian]

Here's another 4 more confirmed cases today https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/03/05/4-more-people-test-positive-for-coronavirus-in-thailand/

[Tchooptip]

13 hours ago, madmitch said:

If this gobbledegook is repeated at hospitals throughout Thailand then there's absolutely no way that accurate figures are ever going to be released.

 

Regardless of the number of cases, Thailand is not exactly coming up smelling of roses right now.

 

 

A I said in a previous post my wife is in Isaan for a short time, a few days ago she called me, telling she was unwell, so she went to an hospital with a kind of flu coughing a lot they found her 39 of fever, but did not control anything at all and sent her home with a few tablets without any verification!

[Mavideol]

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

National Disease Control Chief refuses to clarify Phuket coronavirus report

I hope none of his relatives/family members have a bad karma of catching it or he will be having a attitude adjustment

[Mavideol]

15 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Declines  to  confirm. Doubts? Corona Virus. Which  one? Common cold?

Let reality reign ! Not  Media  hype !

Corvid-19 is  amongst  us...undeniable.....highest risk is to  your  elderly . Not  the  stroppy younger or  small children if reasonable  self  care is taken.

Worry as  much  if  not  more  about the myriad of other things  that can infect and  destroy the body instead of  the infectious  paranoia that is  devouring  your  minds!

 

wonder how old you are and if by any chance (no bad karma intended) you have any pre existing health problems

[Tchooptip]

5 hours ago, SaamBaht said:

Cases in Isaan have been reported by hospital staff at two different hospitals. These cases, four that I know of, have not been added to the countrywide tally. I suspect that these four cases are only a small number of cases not being reported. The government could better serve the public with accurate information. 

Do you now where in Issan? My wife is in Issan right now, a few days ago she had a fever of 39 degree!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Here's another 4 more confirmed cases today https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/03/05/4-more-people-test-positive-for-coronavirus-in-thailand/

 

First officially declared farang case here, AFAIK (though I wouldn't be surprised if there are not others that have not/not yet been officially declared):

 

Quote

BANGKOK — An Italian national and a Chinese man, along with two Thais, were found to have the coronavirus, bringing the total cases of infection in Thailand to 47, health officials said.

 

Edited March 5, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[wazzadg44]

Australia has 52 cases so far-Thailand has 42? Unrealistic given the Asian presence here. Also 2 deaths in Aus.-only 1 in Thailand? Again unrealistic figures.

[Tchooptip]

5 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

Ssssure. The farang has invaluable first hand facts that could shake the nation  but too scared to post it so instead they post hyperbolic dribble gossip conspiracy theories and the usual "thai officials are incompetent idiots" blablabla kind of stuff. Mass hysteria.

Because YOU believe the government's figures?

[peter48]

UK now approach 100, France well over 100, Italy many 100s . These developed nations with advanced health care systems and equipment for oxygen support for the oncoming severe pneumonia are in panic because of the spread. Prosperous  and educated Korea and Japan in 1000s. Thailand at around 40. They must have some know how or measure disease differently. 

 

[Tchooptip]

4 hours ago, sahibji said:

by the way there are reports that there are two versions of this virus.

Yes the Thai one invisible, and the other one for the rest of the world!????

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

If you read the FULL Phuket News report and not just the part TVF has excerpted, there's A LOT of potentially questionable stuff going on there, including the mention toward the end of the article that one of the doctors working at the Phuket hospital filed a police complaint over the hospital's handling of the CV issue. No further details given on that...

 

[peter48]

Some here are not getting it. It is far more serious than Flu as it spreads at a faster rate, those suffering it die in far higher numbers than flu. China, Japan, Korea, Italy, Iran show the death rate as it is and  those countries are going into lock down. Europe and USA are preparing for massive numbers of seriously ill patients and plans are now drawn up. Hot countries  are suffering in massive numbers.  .  Rates will be higher if local hospitals do not have enough oxygen monitoring and support. Be in denial if you want but do not ignore it when Europe is now closing schools, universities, gatherings, footballs matches and so on .. England by tomorrow will be in the 100s.  

[Grumpy John]

In LOS it's safe to say if your wearing the right amulet you are immune from most things.  

[Chazar]

15 hours ago, lupin said:

there is a lot of difference between the so called pink report and the blue report.. they're an entirely different color for crying out loud

 

 

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