#BANGKOKSHUTDOWN

The Bangkok Governor has ordered the closure of the following from March 22 to April 12:

❌Shopping malls
❌Restaurants except for takeaway/delivery
❌Spas and salons
❌Non-food markets
❌Swimming pools
❌Amusement centers
❌Internet cafes

During the #BANGKOKSHUTDOWN the following will remain open.

✅Supermarkets
✅Convenience stores
✅Pharmacies
✅Fresh food markets

1 hour ago, smedly said:

How did this spread to so many people attending this boxing event ?

 

all from possibly one person ?

 

I find that hard to believe - were they all touching each other 

Its obvious this virus is airborne. But no govt or even the WHO wants to admit it. 

5 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

#BANGKOKSHUTDOWN

The Bangkok Governor has ordered the closure of the following from March 22 to April 12:

❌Shopping malls
❌Restaurants except for takeaway/delivery
❌Spas and salons
❌Non-food markets
❌Swimming pools
❌Amusement centers
❌Internet cafes

During the #BANGKOKSHUTDOWN the following will remain open.

✅Supermarkets
✅Convenience stores
✅Pharmacies
✅Fresh food markets

 

Is he allowed to call it a shutdown now ??? Surely it's just some services "unavailable" 

2 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

I'd love to interrogate the causes of death in Thailand in the last few months.

Make some nice pivots tables and pretty graphs.

I think lung infections and pneumonia would be quite prevalent

It seems to me that that you've understood something which is a major problem in Thailand. Covid-19, according to my understanding, is not a disease which kills people, rather it instigates or establishes (conditions suitable for the ascendancy of) a different disease which does kill people e.g. pneumonia and other lung infections), and this might well be the reason why Thai statistics seem (to me anyhow) to be quite wrong and jarringly different from the statistics of other countries.

 

Thais and statistics do not make comfortable bedfellows., and this has a great deal to do with the underlying psychology of Thais.

In my opinion, it is not going to get better, at least not in the short to medium-term. Also in my opinion, this is something we need to learn how to accept while moving on.  Sadly the ultimate destination of this path is that Thais will become increasingly irrelevant over time until ultimately nobody takes any notice of them or their opinions at all. You may well think that we've already spent some time in this condition already.

 

Som nam na.

 

2 minutes ago, ParkerN said:

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

I'd love to interrogate the causes of death in Thailand in the last few months.

Make some nice pivots tables and pretty graphs.

I think lung infections and pneumonia would be quite prevalent

It seems to me that that you've understood something which is a major problem in Thailand. Covid-19, according to my understanding, is not a disease which kills people, rather it instigates or establishes (conditions suitable for the ascendancy of) a different disease which does kill people e.g. pneumonia and other lung infections), and this might well be the reason why Thai statistics seem (to me anyhow) to be quite wrong and jarringly different from the statistics of other countries.

Its similar to the outbreak of HIV where the cause of death was recorded as Pneumonia rather than HIV itself.

Just now, ParkerN said:

It seems to me that that you've understood something which is a major problem in Thailand. Covid-19, according to my understanding, is not a disease which kills people, rather it instigates or establishes (conditions suitable for the ascendancy of) a different disease which does kill people e.g. pneumonia and other lung infections), and this might well be the reason why Thai statistics seem (to me anyhow) to be quite wrong and jarringly different from the statistics of other countries.

 

Thais and statistics do not make comfortable bedfellows., and this has a great deal to do with the underlying psychology ofThais.
In my opinion, it is not going to get better, at least not in the short to medium-term. Also in my opinion, this is something we need to learn how to accept while moving on.  Sadly the ultimate destination of this path Thais will become increasingly irrelevant over time until ultimately nobody takes any notice of them at all. Som nam na.

 

Only people who have been diagnosed with Covid and then subsequently die are counted in the stats and even then I can imagine they fudge the cause.

As you say it eventually pneumonia that kills and therefore ends up on the death cert.

If you go to hospital with lung or respiratory problems (won't be tested) then that will be your cause of death, even if you have the virus

Just imagine it getting into the AC system of a hospital. I don't think Thai hospitals are sectioned off in the same way western ones are. 

NOBODY in Thailand is tested in post mortem for Covid

Hundreds have probably died already, all put down to the aforementioned.

48 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

If they increase the deaths the Thais will shìt their pants.

If you read the comments on FB when they live stream the day's info people are absolutely petrified

Spot on .. There is a lot of doubt about the figures of the number of infected anyway and even more about the number who may have really succumbed to it .. And the present administration have form for being economical with the truth .. The coming days will be revealing and telling if the proliferation pattern follows Europe where in some countries cases are doubling every 48/72 hrs .. 

54 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

If they increase the deaths the Thais will shìt their pants.

If you read the comments on FB when they live stream the day's info people are absolutely petrified

Surly that should be the focus, to make people <deleted> themselves, pay attention and take this situation as serious.

 

They state though that only one person has died this far from the effects of the virus; I actually believe them. With social media as it is now-a-days it would be very difficult to hide the fact that more have perished through Covid-19. Not easy to cover up deaths no matter how many conspiracies are floating about.

In the moment when they start to test people the case numbers are increasing - surprise, surprise.

3 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

Surly that should be the focus, to make people <deleted> themselves, pay attention and take this situation as serious.

 

They state though that only one person has died this far from the effects of the virus; I actually believe them. With social media as it is now-a-days it would be very difficult to hide the fact that more have perished through Covid-19. Not easy to cover up deaths no matter how many conspiracies are floating about.

How would anybody know?

Pneumonia or lung infection on the death cert would be pretty normal and Thais aren't going to pay for a test to be done on a corpse

As I said earlier, show me a breakdown of deaths in Thailand in Jan, Feb, March

Only if one of those 366 (current number tested positive at present) die will it count in the death column

Just now, Canuck1966 said:

How would anybody know?

Pneumonia or lung infection on the death cert would be pretty normal and Thais aren't going to pay for a test to be done on a corpse

Precisely the view being taken by Italian doctors except they're writing "coronavirus" on everyone's death certificate

3 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

And again you are there making up statements, without any factual grounds. 

what statement have I made up? 

12 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Is he allowed to call it a shutdown now ??? Surely it's just some services "unavailable" 

What about supermarkets, pharmacies and fresh food markets inside closed shopping malls; one assumes they will be accessible......... ????        

4 minutes ago, Solidpoo said:

Its obvious this virus is airborne. But no govt or even the WHO wants to admit it. 

According to some scientists it has the ability to stay airborne for "a few hours".

https://www.mdlinx.com/internal-medicine/article/6487

 

Thats a lab study under artificial conditions, and its not widely agreed upon as it hasn't been studied enough to come to a certain conclusion, but it doesn't sound very likely that more than 30-40 people touched the exact same spot (with a few tiny drops) where the infected person was at the muay thai fight, even when being crowded. Its possible, but not very likely. What's more likely is that it is airborne, abd it doesn't need to be airborne for long to go pass dozens of people at a crowded event.

But it hasn't been definitely proven yet.

All will be resolved next week when the hundreds of thousands of monks countrywide (maybe there are a million) all start chanting. That will kill the virus off for sure. It will probably die of laughter!!!!!!!!!!!

3 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

what statement have I made up? 

You were making a statement, that clearly showed you believe lung infections and pneumonia is being used wildly to hide the real cause of death.

Nice try and well hidden, but spotted.

The second wave is upon Thailand. And I read in BKK Post yesterday that Jatujak Market remains open, regardless? How is stupidity like this possible??? Look at neighbouring Malaysia. They weren't exactly doing a 'Thai-style mai phen rai' and they're still screwed. What are right bunch of morons, you lot.

1 death, is all the rest on ventilators ???? because so few left the hospital 

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

I'd love to interrogate the causes of death in Thailand in the last few months.

Make some nice pivots tables and pretty graphs.

I think lung infections and pneumonia would be quite prevalent

 

 Have been for many decades ...

  Now the virus has gone viral ...

 

10 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said:

All will be resolved next week when the hundreds of thousands of monks countrywide (maybe there are a million) all start chanting. That will kill the virus off for sure. It will probably die of laughter!!!!!!!!!!!

 Can we the Vatican involved ..

 

 

1 hour ago, Denim said:

I know Songkran has been cancelled but if people travel home anyway , then this figure will rise dramatically a few weeks after the holidays regardless of whether  people splash water around or not. 

 

The holidays themselves should be deferred and people discouraged from traveling home to visit elderly relatives.

Let's contrast this to another tropical country about 2000 km away to determine how seriously Thailand has taken this threat.

 

Philippines: Every single town and city is in full lockdown. There is no domestic travel allowed, by air, land or sea.

 

The lockdown is total with roadblocks in place on all major roads throughout the entire country. It is being handled by individual Barangays and City Halls. The Barangay system of governance makes this a lot easier than it would be in Thailand. At this micro governance level (Barangays), this full lockdown is possible to achieve very quickly. Each Barangay treats this very seriously.

 

This is how things are in wife's home town of about 50,000 people since last week. The town has been locked down. Her sister is pregnant and cannot travel to the nearest city 25 km away to see her doctor. There is no way to reach the city. There is a curfew at night. All cities and towns have been isolated from each other. All schools are closed.

 

This is an example of a country taking this threat seriously. Currently they have fewer reported cases of COVID-19 than Thailand.

 

 

21 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

what statement have I made up? 

you didn,t....some people like to whine!

Post using content from Twitter have been removed, please do not post anything that is not from a reliable source, no links to YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

Only people who have been diagnosed with Covid and then subsequently die are counted in the stats and even then I can imagine they fudge the cause.

As you say it eventually pneumonia that kills and therefore ends up on the death cert.

If you go to hospital with lung or respiratory problems (won't be tested) then that will be your cause of death, even if you have the virus

Just imagine it getting into the AC system of a hospital. I don't think Thai hospitals are sectioned off in the same way western ones are. 

NOBODY in Thailand is tested in post mortem for Covid

Hundreds have probably died already, all put down to the aforementioned.

 

Yes, your cogent response is just gloomy enough for any thinking man, to be true, and it gives me no pleasure to say that, the Thai-o-philes will climb all over it as ipso facto evidence of Thai-bashing.

 

Sadly, not one of them will recall that none of us like to hear people like ourselves or gifted with a similar IQ to ourselves being criticised. I'm reminded of countless examples from TV, where a gang of Thais, on seeing a Thai and a non-Thai in conflict will likely weigh in on the side non-Thai - with no knowledge whatever or the causes or rights and wrongs of the conflict.  Psychologically, we will always tend t weigh on on the side of someone else in our tribe,

 

Quite what that says about the Thai-o-philes in here, i'm not quite sure. No, that's a lie. I am quite sure.

 

 

1 hour ago, GeorgeCross said:

the seperate outbreaks are becoming noticeable now:

 

https://covidtracker.5lab.co/en

Love the bit in the app where it describes the meaning of the icons, and one is 'Hand in the Wasp for Treatment' 

In other news Kenny Rogers dead at 81 ????

I really don't understand why the government have not yet moved to stage 3? What more has to happen before they finally realise they MUST close the borders

With the tourist industry dead in the water and all the bar girls and street walkers gone home, Pattaya will probably be the safest place in the country!

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Updated the latest numbers into graph to visualize the trajectory of pandemic.

 

The top graph shows 411 cases from 2 cases In 45 days. So from dy/dt=ky we have Y(45) = 2e^k45 =411. However I get the constant k = .118 Then y(45) = 2e^5.325=410. Unfortunately if you calculate for 60 days = 2375 cases in two more weeks. This is only the math from the current givens. 

 

 

Yep, very eloquent and very clear, the pictures say all that needs to be said. Read them and weep.

 

 

1 hour ago, ThaiPauly said:

I really don't understand why the government have not yet moved to stage 3? What more has to happen before they finally realise they MUST close the borders

 

The tourists must return and apologise for abandoning Thailand in the hour of it's fiscal need.

 

Good luck with that.