Location during lockdown

[Virtualrecluse]

If it comes to a 24/7 lockdown, would a foreigner who owns a property here be legally obliged to reside there or could they move in with someone else (girlfriend) at another address and remain there?

[petedk]

My guess is that you could stay anywhere as long as you don't go out.

 

Who would know where you are anyway?

[notmyself]

yes

 

[paahlman]

Same as where the Thais stay I suppose?

[saminoz]

24 Hour lockdown is a ridiculous proposition.

They are idiots to consider it.

What about getting food and medicines?

This is a typical overreaction to their inability to enforce the simple social distancing and existing curfew.

As usual, the draconian threat of 2 years in jail for curfew breakers just makes them look as ridiculous as they really, really are!

 

[MrMo]

But would the person whose property you were staying in be required to file a TM 30 ?

[Krataiboy]

Presumably, at whatever address is registered with immigration

[worrab]

22 minutes ago, saminoz said:

24 Hour lockdown is a ridiculous proposition.

They are idiots to consider it.

What about getting food and medicines?

Not really idiots as other countries have introduced this. And you would be allowed out to get food etc as Thais do need their fresh veg and meats. I would expect to see a time limit of some description for this, once a day between certain hours? and maybe just one person from the household to do it. Could be worse like the Philippines where anyone over 60 must stay in the house and is not allowed out at all!! With very strict curfews enforced. 

Just have to wait and see.  

[PeachCH]

Not quite true. Seniors still can get a quarantine passport easily for free. In Robinson grocery shop for example, they even have their own "speed" lane, so no long waiting at the entrance. Everyone has to wear masks and is tested for fever. 

[worrab]

4 minutes ago, PeachCH said:

Not quite true. Seniors still can get a quarantine passport easily for free. In Robinson grocery shop for example, they even have their own "speed" lane, so no long waiting at the entrance. Everyone has to wear masks and is tested for fever. 

Beg your pardon. I should have said that any farang over 60 is not allowed out. My friend over there is going stir crazy at the moment. His wife is okay to go out but not him.

[PeachCH]

And... In Manila, one person per family can get a quarantine pass. Shops like grocery, pharmacy and some banks are open. From 8pm to 5am is a total curvew. Since 2 weeks now, another week ahead and another 2 weeks in the pipeline. But one get used to this circumstances. 

[PeachCH]

2 minutes ago, worrab said:

Beg your pardon. I should have said that any farang over 60 is not allowed out. My friend over there is going stir crazy at the moment. His wife is okay to go out but not him.

Yes, but I am 75 years old. When I applied for the quarantine pass at the barangay, nobody asked for my age. And the fast lane at the grocery shop, is for seniors! Don't know where your friend is living. I live in Manila. Should go to his Barangy. 

[worrab]

4 minutes ago, PeachCH said:

Yes, but I am 75 years old. When I applied for the quarantine pass at the barangay, nobody asked for my age. And the fast lane at the grocery shop, is for seniors! Don't know where your friend is living. I live in Manila. Should go to his Barangy. 

Have passed this on. Many thanks.

 

[geisha]

1 hour ago, saminoz said:

24 Hour lockdown is a ridiculous proposition.

They are idiots to consider it.

What about getting food and medicines?

This is a typical overreaction to their inability to enforce the simple social distancing and existing curfew.

As usual, the draconian threat of 2 years in jail for curfew breakers just makes them look as ridiculous as they really, really are!

 

Good lord, of course you won’t starve. Lockdown means only leaving home for absolute essentials, food, medicines, administration.  Food shops and chemists remain open at restricted hours. 

[scorecard]

 

True, Australia started social distancing and then lockdown pretty quickly and the rate of new infections and deaths has been quite low.

 

Only 34 total deaths nationally to date.

 

Five have been from one old people nursing home where initially they didn't follow the distancing directives and eight have come from cruise ships which did a poor job of hygiene etc.

 

34 less 13 = just 21 deaths nationally.  Social distancing and lockdown works (but of course people (preferably only one person per household can go out to buy groceries, medicines, etc.).

 

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by scorecard

[TigerandDog]

9 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

True, Australia started social distancing and then lockdown pretty quickly and the rate of new infections and deaths has been quite low.

 

Only 34 total deaths nationally to date.

 

Five have been from one old people nursing home where initially they didn't follow the distancing directives and eight have come from cruise ships which did a poor job of hygiene etc.

 

34 less 13 = just 21 deaths nationally.  Social distancing and lockdown works (but of course people (preferably only one person per household can go out to buy groceries, medicines, etc.).

 

 

Yes, but not all aussies are abiding by the rules. In Oz (NSW) it is actually illegal during the lockdown to go out for any reason other than for essentials, shopping, dr etc. Yet a friend of mine , who is a state MP, has posted today on FB that her neighbours have a rather large gathering for a BBQ. So it's not only Thailand that has inconsiderate selfish jerks who believe they don't have to follow the rules, there are aussies that are just as dumb.

[Max69xl]

If you're an expat you're supposed to stay where you are registered officially at your local Immigration. Where a stranded tourist will stay is another question. Maybe under a bridge somewhere when they close the hotels. ????

But imo, a 24 hour curfew won't happen. 

[natway09]

Saminoz, the only idiots are the ones that will not obey orders.

It is for your good, your friends & general population.. The reason it is unfortunately being enforced is because the stupid people just will not listen .

Maybe the Phillipino President has the right idea ?

[lee b]

59 minutes ago, PeachCH said:

And... In Manila, one person per family can get a quarantine pass. Shops like grocery, pharmacy and some banks are open. From 8pm to 5am is a total curvew. Since 2 weeks now, another week ahead and another 2 weeks in the pipeline. But one get used to this circumstances. 

Its kind of like that in Dubai, you need a police approval to leave home or your in trouble.

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

 

True, Australia started social distancing and then lockdown pretty quickly and the rate of new infections and deaths has been quite low.

 

Only 34 total deaths nationally to date.

 

Five have been from one old people nursing home where initially they didn't follow the distancing directives and eight have come from cruise ships which did a poor job of hygiene etc.

 

Fine...but now the question is: when does it stop?

 

Has the Australian government provided target numbers to the population, or is it running blind, having no idea where it is leading the country (like almost all the other governments)?

 

Even convicts know exactly how long they are going to be locked...

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, Brunolem said:

Fine...but now the question is: when does it stop?

 

Has the Australian government provided target numbers to the population, or is it running blind, having no idea where it is leading the country (like almost all the other governments)?

 

Even convicts know exactly how long they are going to be locked...

Yes Australia has mapped out many data items from the start and it's all been very public. But the PM and other senior ministers have realized the way the numbers have been presented may have been a bit difficult to understand, so from late afternoon tomorrow, then same time every day there will be a session (I guess on TV) to show and explain the data and changes etc. 

 

At the moment the number of new infections is going down quite a bit every day.

 

When the PM, the health minister etc., are asked 'when will it end' they are deliberately very vague. It seems that they are deliberately going to keep up social distancing / lockdown etc., for at least 30 / 60 days.

 

They also realize that the current situation is doing a lot of damage to the economy which needs to rebuild as quickly as possible. 

 

 

 

Edited April 5, 2020 by scorecard

[SiSePuede419]

Indoors. ????

[Brunolem]

23 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

When the PM, the health minister etc., are asked 'when will it end' they are deliberately very vague. It seems that they are deliberately going to keep up social distancing / lockdown etc., for at least 30 / 60 days.

 

They also realize that the current situation is doing a lot of damage to the economy which needs to rebuild as quickly as possible. 

 

 

 

It is the same everywhere...they have no idea of when and how to get out of the lockdown!

 

The problem is that you cannot have the economy running with a half or a quarter of a lockdown...either it is running or it is not, but it cannot run on 2 or 3 wheels only.

[vivananahuahin]

And if i need go to immigration to renew my extension,what happen then,my wife drive i have no driving licence,we need go together,i will need a pass from the police,of overstay and pay the fine of go in jail

[White Christmas13]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

True, Australia started social distancing and then lockdown pretty quickly and the rate of new infections and deaths has been quite low.

 

Only 34 total deaths nationally to date.

 

Five have been from one old people nursing home where initially they didn't follow the distancing directives and eight have come from cruise ships which did a poor job of hygiene etc.

 

34 less 13 = just 21 deaths nationally.  Social distancing and lockdown works (but of course people (preferably only one person per household can go out to buy groceries, medicines, etc.).

 

 

And yes 84% are imported from overseas travels or cruise ships

[Chalong circle]

4 hours ago, Max69xl said:

If you're an expat you're supposed to stay where you are registered officially at your local Immigration. Where a stranded tourist will stay is another question. Maybe under a bridge somewhere when they close the hotels. ????

But imo, a 24 hour curfew won't happen. 

OK. And what happens when you cannot come back where you are registered officially, because one province has decided a lockdown and nobody can go in or out of this province ?

[Burma Bill]

6 hours ago, MrMo said:

But would the person whose property you were staying in be required to file a TM 30 ?

My thought as well!

[Salerno]

6 hours ago, saminoz said:

24 Hour lockdown is a ridiculous proposition.

No, it's not.

 

6 hours ago, saminoz said:

They are idiots to consider it.

No, they're not.

 

6 hours ago, saminoz said:

What about getting food and medicines?

Like other places around the world there will no doubt be regulations put in place to facilitate this.

 

6 hours ago, saminoz said:

This is a typical overreaction to their inability to enforce the simple social distancing and existing curfew.

No, it's a logical escalation that may be required to compensate for the selfish "me, me me" <deleted> that can endanger others and ensure the threat goes on longer than necessary.

 

6 hours ago, saminoz said:

As usual, the draconian threat of 2 years in jail for curfew breakers just makes them look as ridiculous as they really, really are!

No, it's the extreme end of a hefty stick that may actually get people to comply.

[cheapcanuck]

This is Thailand. What happens in one part of the country does not hold water in other parts of the country. Anyway for Thailand to extract bahts out of a tourist, they will. There will be check stops and opportunities for the powers that be to collect some "tea money" from the tourists.