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On 4/9/2020 at 1:54 AM, bwpage3 said:

There are 1000's of places around the world, if you could afford to live there, you would like more than Thailand.

IN YOUR OPINION.

I've been to many ?thousands of places around the world and none are better or worse than LOS. Every place has it's pluses and minuses.

If one doesn't know why LOS is a great place to live, one obviously doesn't know as much about LOS as they think they do. The great places don't present themselves on a platter- one has to look for them.

Hint- the best places are the hardest to get to, and wealth is nothing to do with it.

Some go to Thailand and never get further than Pattaya, Chiang Mai or Bkk, and think the whole country is like them. No wonder they don't like the country.

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8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Some go to Thailand and never get further than Pattaya, Chiang Mai or Bkk, and think the whole country is like them. No wonder they don't like the country.

Pattaya and Chiang Mai are great (barring the pollution).

Hate Bangkok.

 

Can't stand the rural Issan hell-holes.

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4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No. I despise them as do the vast majority of Thais and expats. They are unredeemable. 

 

The air quality here is horrendous. And the hapless army is doing nothing about it. It is a huge concern of mine. 

 

 

That is also a big issue. High speed passenger and cargo trains is the obvious solution for roads choked with trucks. But, that appears to be over the heads of the current administration.

 

Horrendous. Another area where the army is doing less than zero. However corruption in the US is just as bad. It is just less transparent. If you have two to five million dollars, you can usually get away with any crime, including murder, in the US. A high priced legal team equals a stunning degree of judicial corruption in the US. Also, the porn and escort industry in the US is larger than the entire sex industry here. Moral corruption? If you must label it as such. Medical corruption? How about a big pharma that owns both the CDC and the US govt? Corruption? Big time. I could go on. Not to mention the cultural corruption inherent with gorging on toxic reality TV for three decades. 

 

The handling of Covid has been fantastic. Absolutely blows away the medical incompetence, and both inane and ineffective protocols we are seeing in the US. Kudos to the Thais on this!  

 

Floods. Droughts. What can one say? They happen everywhere. 

 

I would not say we are trapped. But, I would say we live infinitely better here, than we would back in the US. And neither my wife nor I, would want to live back there. She has visited many times and we have traveled all over the country both here and there. Thailand blows away the US on so many levels. We love it here!

 

Asked and answered. 

 

No. But we both love it here. For now. At some point we may buy a home in Spain. And spend half the year there. 

 

Enough to make me very happy. I never liked women my age. On a dozen different levels. She keeps me happy and youthful, and is an amazing companion, an amazing woman, and a wonderful wife. 

 

 

She will be very comfortable. 

 

Thank God no. It would have stripped her of her best qualities. She does not have a university education. But she is smart as a whip, very street smart, can think on her feet, is fluent in reading, writing and speaking English and runs a successful business here. 

 

She has her own business as well as a large and profitable orchard that we own. And I have a successful business in the US. So, we do quite well. Thanks for your concern. 

 

 

 

Yes, yes, yes and yes. And you?

Thank you for your sincere honestly Mike. Very refreshing.

 

As for me?

 

We own a large rice farm in Isaan, a house, financially support her entire clan with a big farming tractor, farm truck, pickup truck, chainsaws, tools. Enough so they can scratch out a living doing manual labor. My wife's grandfather in another part of Isaan also left her a large parcel of land that just sits there. Very rural area with nothing.

 

Honestly, after our last trip to Isaan in 12/19, I do not think, even if things went to hell, that I could live there. The Isaan Thai is something I cannot understand nor want to. With no foreigners there, it would be quite boring. The nearest store is 38 km away. When old age set in, hospital is around 75km away. Not sure Thai insurance would cover all the ailments in old age or not. I suspect not.

 

In the USA, wonderful house in Florida, 3 cars, it is a much better life because we can afford it. Not retired. Florida is an attraction for Thai people because they can find everything here they have in Thailand. We don't have air pollution, massive traffic, flooding. The beaches and water is very clean. Daytona Beach 2 hours north, Miami Beach 3 hours south. Lots to see and do. Thai grocery stores, Thai restaurants out the wazoo, Thai temple. Weather is similar though much warmer. Orlando has Chinatown and Vietnamese Town.

 

Education? Both my wife and son are in Uni here in USA. She was extremely fluent in English in Thailand having studied English and Chinese for almost 9 years. Guess what? That was not enough to get her into Uni here, she ended up doing another 2.5 years here at the Uni in intensive english for foreigners. That was to pass the entry requirements. When we lived in Zhuhai, China for a year, she could speak with the locals.

 

Not matter what happens to me, it is very important to me that they get a western education that will allow themselves to support themselves if they ever have to. I am not sure if my wife would return once I die, but she will be extremely prepared if she wants to.

 

Our son has made it very clear, no way he will ever return to Thailand, not even to visit. Even though they speak Thai here in the house, and he eats Thai food, for some reason he does not want anything to do with Thailand. He will have an excellent education and be able to have his own future where ever he wants.

 

So, like you have done, we have to make the best choices for our families. There is no right or wrong. The key as you know, if a good woman by your side. Then anything is possible.

 

Good luck in your future endeavors.

 

 

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14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No. But we both love it here.

I've never understood why any western man would take their wife to a country they left to find a wife, where she might become just like the women they didn't want to marry.

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14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No. I despise them as do the vast majority of Thais and expats. They are unredeemable. 

Were you in LOS during the Thaksin years? Would you prefer him to the military?

 

IMO he was the worst thing ever to happen to LOS and he did more to destroy it as a sanuk country than centuries of military rule ever could.

 

I'm sure you don't need reminding that the military ruled in LOS much of the time since Thailand became a "democratic" country, and it was good enough for many westerners to fall in love with the place anyway.

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On 4/21/2020 at 7:42 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Some go to Thailand and never get further than Pattaya, Chiang Mai or Bkk, and think the whole country is like them. No wonder they don't like the country.

I guess that would be the impression of about 99% of tourists to Thailand then. ????

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To be honest, my own little Shangri-La, on a budget. Ha! You have to be lucky. It can be a nightmare or a dream. And a dream turns into a nightmare at the toss of a coin, ask the go fund me guys.

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14 hours ago, nausea said:

To be honest, my own little Shangri-La, on a budget. Ha! You have to be lucky. It can be a nightmare or a dream. And a dream turns into a nightmare at the toss of a coin, ask the go fund me guys.

Indeed. Just kill a Thai on the roads even if it's their fault and even the most perfect of lives in LOS turns to hell on earth.

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On 4/21/2020 at 6:48 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

I've never understood why any western man would take their wife to a country they left to find a wife, where she might become just like the women they didn't want to marry.

Because she might just become like the woman they DID want to marry.

 

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On 4/21/2020 at 6:46 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

If you are a farang SHE owns a large rice farm, you do not.

 

 

You must be one of those types that moved halfway round the world and got divorced or burned?

Or you married someone with little to no education that you can boss around?

Bitter and think you are doing your wife a favor with 300 baht a month?

In our family it is we.

 

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Top of the list....... I love my extended thai family and my thai friends that I've made as a result of the thai family

I love our condo 

I love how free you are to ride an off-road bike in most places and the smiles and thumbs up you generally receive 

I love the nightlife in all its crazy forms throughout the entire country

I love how nothing ever stays the same for too long so you never tend to get bored and if you do, it doesn't last for long

I love the fresh baby coconuts to help cure a hangover and I should include my paradise condo pool/gardens in that mix

I love the thai people who don't take themselves too seriously and enjoy life with a big smile on their face. It really does help seeing people smile a lot. 

I love the really good thai food and it's ever expanding menu 

I love how cheap you can still pay for a decent enough guesthouse in places like Kanchanaburi town centre - makes travel so much more accessable and affordable throughout the year 

I love the bangkok skyline 

I love the girls - having lived in several countries and travelled too many to count, I can hand on heart say that the thai women are the best there is that I've experienced - no others come close. (or perhaps I've just been lucky/unlucky....)

 

That's a very quick list off the top of my head. 

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On 9/26/2020 at 12:24 PM, Leaver said:

But at Thai law, land here is only for Thai's.   Where is the "we" in that?   

Maybe your family doesn't love you?

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I like the small markets and the freedom Thais have to do small business without having to get permits and do all sorts of bureaucratic stuff. A Thai can decide to sell noodles on the street and do it the next day if they want. That's something that doesn't exist in most of the Western world. But it's only for Thais.

 

Actually, I'm pretty much done and bored with Thailand. There's not much that thrills me anymore. Much of what you find in Thailand these days can be found abroad somewhere. The traffic and roads just make me depressed. Stay away from the crowded areas!

 

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1 minute ago, TooBigToFit said:

I like the small markets and the freedom Thais have to do small business without having to get permits and do all sorts of bureaucratic stuff. A Thai can decide to sell noodles on the street and do it the next day if they want. That's something that doesn't exist in most of the Western world. But it's only for Thais.

 

You need to get permission to sell food on public land or the authorities will close you down 

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On 9/27/2020 at 5:24 AM, Leaver said:

But at Thai law, land here is only for Thai's.   Where is the "we" in that?   

That's one of the reasons I loved Thailand. They are not prepared to see their own dispossessed by foreign rich people.

Long may it continue.

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's one of the reasons I loved Thailand. They are not prepared to see their own dispossessed by foreign rich people.

Long may it continue.

No, they are dispossessed by Thai rich people, the 1% who own 67% of the wealth ????

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53 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

No, they are dispossessed by Thai rich people, the 1% who own 67% of the wealth ????

No doubt you know what % of farms are owned by the rich and not by the farmers then. None of the farms in my ex wife's village were owned by the rich.

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