Thailand reports 50 new Covid-19 cases

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Thailand reports 50 new Covid-19 cases

By The Nation

 

 

Thailand’s total number of Covid-19 patients rose to 2,473 with 50 new cases confirmed over a 24-hour period, and one more death, Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin, spokesman of the government's Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration, said on Friday (April 10).

 

The cases can be divided into three groups.

 

The first group of 27 had close contact with others previously confirmed as infected (mostly in Bangkok, 11)

 

The second group comprised 15 people of whom three Thais had just returned from overseas (two from UK and one from the US), five were working in crowded areas or close to foreigners, three went to crowded areas, and four are medical staff.

 

The third group of eight are being investigated on the source of the infection (4 in Phuket).

 

Meanwhile, 73 people have fully recovered and returned home.

 

A 43-year-old female merchant, who suffered from systemic lupus erythematosus, died after being admitted to hospital with fever and difficulty in breathing.

 

As of April 10, the total number of confirmed cases in the country stood at 2,473 -- 1,427 are under treatment, 1013 have recovered and been discharged, and there have been 33 deaths.

 

Globally, there are more than 1.6 million confirmed cases and around 95,000 deaths.

 

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30385729

 

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[dinsdale]

Probably just an update thing but covid test numbers same as yesterday. So zero tests. Can't be right but probably isn't much more as a percentage per 100,000.

[Guderian]

Whether you believe the numbers or not, at least they’re consistently low. The authorities also seem to know where most of the new cases originated, which is comforting.

I wish the government would tell us, though, what their criterion is for relaxing the restrictions. Obviously, there won’t be any relaxation until Songkran is over, but it would be nice to know what they’re aiming at in the medium term. Consistently less than fifty new cases a day seems to be the most common criterion being bandied around by other countries, but the CCSA are reportedly unhappy with the latest numbers and are talking about tightening restrictions.

[LeamchabangLarry]

2 minutes ago, Guderian said:

Whether you believe the numbers or not, at least they’re consistently low. The authorities also seem to know where most of the new cases originated, which is comforting.

 

I wish the government would tell us, though, what their criterion is for relaxing the restrictions. Obviously, there won’t be any relaxation until Songkran is over, but it would be nice to know what they’re aiming at in the medium term. Consistently less than fifty new cases a day seems to be the most common criterion being bandied around by other countries, but the CCSA are reportedly unhappy with the latest numbers and are talking about tightening restrictions.

 

 

I don't really believe the numbers either. 

They seem to be doing the right things now with the imports/returnees after the phi noi fiasco in early March.  

 

[dinsdale]

Look at China's numbers. Do you believe them?

[timendres]

On 7 April 2020 at 18:00, Thailand announced that 1,192 additional people met the criteria for PUI, raising the total to 27,049 PUI, as shown in Table 1.

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/situation.php

Edited April 10, 2020 by timendres

[JCP108]

Why isn't the whole world focused on the miracle that is the Covid-19 situation in Thailand?! Hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists coming here with no restrictions at the start and through the peak of the infections in China, absolutely no effective social distancing here, and still Thailand peaked at 188 infections in one day and now has trended down to 50. The local RO dropped seemingly to less than 1.0 even before the recent curfew was put into place. All this while hundreds of thousands are being infected and tens of thousands are dying almost everywhere else. How is it that this isn't being focused on in the world news?

Edited April 10, 2020 by JCP108

[Jingthing]

50 known and then you need to add a lot to that and you don't need to believe in any cover-up conspiracy theories to realize that. 

 

Why? 

 

This isn't Singapore as far as organizational capabilities Nuff said. 

 

A very large percentage of the infected have mild symptoms and will never even see a doctor, never get  tested, and never be counted. Hopefully they are mostly self isolating. 

 

International studies so far indicate about 20 to 50 percent of cases have no symptoms. This group not counted. 

 

Testing is still limited in volume in Thailand. I assume that's largely because of limited capability to do massive testing or maybe that's partly policy. Either way it's a fact that the more testing the higher the case counts. 

 

So folks sorry to say 50 confirmed new cases a day isn't really the best of news. 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Why isn't the whole world focused on the miracle that is the Covid-19 situation in Thailand?! Hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists coming here with no restrictions at the start and through the peak of the infections in China, absolutely no effective social distancing here, and still Thailand peaked at 188 infections in one day and now has trended down to 50. The local RO dropped seemingly to less than 1.0 even before the recent curfew was put into place. All this while hundreds of thousands are being infected and tens of thousands are dying almost everywhere else. How is it that this isn't being focused on in the world news?

Because it's unbelievable. 

[LeamchabangLarry]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Look at China's numbers. Do you believe them?

hell no man.  no one believes China's numbers.

 

There is evidence that the real numbers START at 20x what was reported.  Additionally, before the report was stifled by the chinese government, mobile operators were reporting 21 million mobile accounts that went inactive.  

Even if this was attributed to a person having two phones, 10 million is a crazy number

[garygooner]

Not just Thailand. Look at the low cases in Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam & Malaysia too. Thailand has also conducted more tests than many countries including Japan.  

[DavisH]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

50 known and then you need to add a lot to that and you don't need to believe in any cover-up conspiracy theories to realize that. 

 

Why? 

 

This isn't Singapore as far as organizational capabilities Nuff said. 

 

A very large percentage of the infected have mild symptoms and will never even see a doctor, never bed  tested, and never be counted. Hopefully they are mostly self isolating. 

 

International studies so far indicate about 20 to 50 percent of cases have no symptoms. This group not counted. 

 

Testing is still limited in volume in Thailand. I assume that's largely because of limited capability to do massive testing or maybe that's partly policy. Either way it's a fact that the more testing the higher the case counts. 

 

So folks sorry to say 50 confirmed cases a day isn't really the best of news. 

I don't see a justification for mass testing in Thailand at this time. Only abotu 3% of tests are coming back positive. In the uS that number is 20%. Testing solution is limited and tests should only be carried out on those most likely to be infected. Thee could well be many people with the virus and not presenting symptoms - if they are efficient spreaders of the virus here I would expect many more positive cases than we are seeing. 

 

As for 20-50% not showing any symptoms - curent studies suggest the majority go on to show symptoms, even if theya are mild. The main focus should be on isolating the elderly and immunosuppressed. Let's see how it is at the end of April. 

 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, DavisH said:

I don't see a justification for mass testing in Thailand at this time. Only abotu 3% of tests are coming back positive. In the uS that number is 20%. Testing solution is limited and tests should only be carried out on those most likely to be infected. Thee could well be many people with the virus and not presenting symptoms - if they are efficient spreaders of the virus here I would expect many more positive cases than we are seeing. 

 

As for 20-50% not showing any symptoms - curent studies suggest the majority go on to show symptoms, even if theya are mild. The main focus should be on isolating the elderly and immunosuppressed. Let's see how it is at the end of April. 

 

Sounds like you have an agenda to push quicker opening. I am just stating the obvious that 50 may or may not be the tip of the iceberg but it is the tip of something unknown. 

 

Source please on your positive testing stat.

[gerry1953]

For those people so skeptical of Thai released figures please take note that the surrounding countries in SE Asia all have similar numbers.  I find the worldometer web site the best as it also breaks the statistics down into an infection, test rates or death rate per 1 million people so you can do a fair comparison.

Some numbers may be very subjective but I find the death rate per million hard to argue with.  Each death from respiratory issues would be tested for Covid-19 and recorded for safety and corpse handling reasons.  If you still think its a conspiracy then you have to believe all the surrounding countries are in on it too???

 

I guess for the flat earthers that won't be a problem!  To me the high numbers in the northern hemisphere that just came out of winter and the severity (survival rate) in Europe and North America need more study.  And even then there are a few outliers that are more difficult to understand.

Edited April 10, 2020 by gerry1953

[LeamchabangLarry]

1 minute ago, gerry1953 said:

For those people so skeptical of Thai released figures please take note that the surrounding countries in SE Asia all have similar numbers.  I find the worldmeters web site the best as it also breaks the statistics down into an infection, test rates or death rate per 1 million people so you can do a fair comparison.

Some numbers may be very subjective but I find the death rate per million hard to argue with.  Each death from respiratory issues would be tested for Covid-19 and recorded for safety and corpse handling reasons.  If you still think its a conspiracy then you have to believe all the surrounding countries are in on it too???

 

I guess for the flat earthers that won't be a problem!  To me the high numbers in the northern hemisphere that just came out of winter and the severity (survival rate) in Europe and North America need more study.  And even then there are a few outliers that are more difficult to understand.

I believe Singapore's numbers.

Indonesia?  HELL no

China?  lol

[CGW]

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This isn't Singapore as far as organizational capabilities Nuff said. 

Singapore has very strict control of the press, 21 years in jail if you print something that the "government" deems fake news. There is little "publicity" being given to all the workers they simply ignored being in lockdown in in-human conditions, 12 men to a room - if they are lucky!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-singapore-migrants/migrant-workers-fear-massive-singapore-dormitory-lockdown-is-coronavirus-time-bomb-idUSKBN21O138

[sapson]

24 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Why isn't the whole world focused on the miracle that is the Covid-19 situation in Thailand?! Hundreds of thousands of Chinese tourists coming here with no restrictions at the start and through the peak of the infections in China, absolutely no effective social distancing here, and still Thailand peaked at 188 infections in one day and now has trended down to 50. The local RO dropped seemingly to less than 1.0 even before the recent curfew was put into place. All this while hundreds of thousands are being infected and tens of thousands are dying almost everywhere else. How is it that this isn't being focused on in the world news?

Fantastic post!!!! exactly why arent all the other stricken countries governments desperate to share Thailands incredible covid19 methods and strategy........miracle Team Thailand.

 

 

[w94005m]

50 minutes ago, Guderian said:

Whether you believe the numbers or not, at least they’re consistently low. The authorities also seem to know where most of the new cases originated, which is comforting.

 

I wish the government would tell us, though, what their criterion is for relaxing the restrictions. Obviously, there won’t be any relaxation until Songkran is over, but it would be nice to know what they’re aiming at in the medium term. Consistently less than fifty new cases a day seems to be the most common criterion being bandied around by other countries, but the CCSA are reportedly unhappy with the latest numbers and are talking about tightening restrictions.

 

Really need at least 2 weeks with no new cases

[anchadian]

Worth a read:

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/11154/high-priced-public-strategy-firm-once-hired-by-paul-manafort-defends-thai-governments-coronavirus-response/

 

A high-priced international ‘public strategy firm’ has been sending out press releases defending the Thai government’s coronavirus response.

 

Mercury LLC, with operational headquarters in New York and London, said in their press release that the Thai government “have successfully slowed the spread of coronavirus in Thailand.”

 

Jonathan Head

 

@pakhead

 

Is the Thai government paying a PR firm to put out a glossy and misleading account of its response to Covid19?

Edited April 10, 2020 by anchadian

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

It has been posted regionally but the last I heard it was not a national ban but based on province. Are you saying that the policy is now national? 

It seems like it's a Metropolitan BKK thing with other proivinces doing their own thing. Ahhhhhh! I didn't know. There's going to be trouble for sure. More thought bubble policy but it doesn't seem to be national for now. Imagine province where you live you can't get it but neighbouring province you can. Pure madness.

[bkk6060]

It is surprsing numbers, but the hospitals in the country are not full of patients.  You would think they would be as many older people here are in poor health smoking and Thai whiskey.  Thais normally go to the emergency for a simple runny nose.  I assume many they are not tested and sent home with meds to recover.  The numbers are probably higher, but I do not believe some astronomical amount.

 

Edited April 10, 2020 by bkk6060

[Why Me]

Forget numbers. See what's visible to the naked eye:

1. Are hospitals overwhelmed with C-19 a la NY? No. That would be impossible to keep out of local/international media.

2. Is Thailand scrambling on the international market for ventilators/HCQ/PPE? No.

3. How alarmed is Thai social media? I am not fluent enough in Thai to follow but from the few Thais I talk to, not much. This is particularly significant because bad news will leak locally.

 

(Btw, re China, again by the naked eye principle, I saw a photo recently in some paper of a Beijing subway rush of hundreds of (masked) commuters). Unless you believe the Chinese authorities are planning a mass C-19 suicide that tells me they indeed do have it contained.)

 

So, I'll conclude Thailand is doing well. I might be wrong. The next visible steps will tell. If they extend the curfew and/or other measures then the news is bad. Gradual lifting will be a good sign which, of course, is never going to happen over the Songkran period.

 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Why Me

[LeamchabangLarry]

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Jonathan Head

lol

...Taksin's mouthpiece  

[sapson]

if the daily update was we have 57 positives from the number tested daily be it 120 or 10,000 and where were the tests conducted we would have meaningful data.

 

 

Maybe its just us pesky farangs being so nosey with a need to know.

 

Sure the Thais will  just use the last weeks reported daily numbers for lottery numbers!

[LeamchabangLarry]

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It has been posted regionally but the last I heard it was not a national ban but based on province. Are you saying that the policy is now national? 

don't understand at all this genius move to make it harder to stay indoors...

[Pravda]

53 minutes ago, garygooner said:

Not just Thailand. Look at the low cases in Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam & Malaysia too. Thailand has also conducted more tests than many countries including Japan.  

 

Every day there is a post that deserves an award. You made it today. Are you proud?

[gerry1953]

Indonesia has 1 death per million population as compared to Thailands .5 deaths per million?

I am not an Indonesia supporter but what do you contest about there numbers which have twice the deaths per million population than here in Thailand? 

Both are hot weather, humid southern hemisphere countries.

[Yadon Toploy]

57 minutes ago, garygooner said:

Not just Thailand. Look at the low cases in Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam & Malaysia too. Thailand has also conducted more tests than many countries including Japan.  

Thailand has tested relatively few people in comparison with countries outwith the SEA region. 

 

Good luck finding a hospital in Cambodia, let alone a place that will test.

[Yadon Toploy]

17 minutes ago, LeamchabangLarry said:

lol

...Taksin's mouthpiece  

Better than being stuck up Prayuth's ringpiece lol.

 

 

[totally thaied up]

3 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Forget the numbers. See what's visible to the naked eye:

1. Are hospitals overwhelmed with C-19 a la NY. No. That would be impossible to keep out of local/international media.

2. Is Thailand scrambling on the international market for ventilators/HCQ/PPE? No.

3. How alarmed is Thai social media? I am not fluent enough in Thai to follow but from the few Thais I talk to, not much. This is particularly significant because bad news will leak locally.

 

If we got numbers coming out like NY, it would be splashed all over social media. With this focused based testing they are doing now, your not going to get high numbers unless you test higher numbers.

 

As other posters mentioned, I would love to know Thailand's magic formula in staving off a pandemic. We had hundreds of thousands of Chinese from hot spots let in and so far to date, we are up their with the numbers of being world beaters in repressing this outbreak. In reality I hope it is true but how certain can we be.