nothing says justice more than committing crime to protest a ....crime.

 

These kind of things happen to White people to in the States - where is the media outrage then?

 

Sure it was bad but there is no evidence whatsoever it was racially motivated

 

But of course the media claim it was and the sheeple believe it

 

 

22 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

That's a bit rough don't you think?  Besides i'm sure all the Corona fear mongers will have them marked for death for not following social distancing laws.

It's the beginning of anarchy and can't be allowed to spread

Where are the roof Koreans when you need them!

I do not condone burning and looting in any way, shape, or form.

But I do understand it. Lifetime of micro (and macro) aggressions build up. Think of the rants some go on about here regarding Thais treatment of them for being farangs, and those are nothing compared to what US blacks/minorities deal with every day.

I was a white teacher in a mostly black high school. I would hear plenty of stories regarding bad treatment based on race from police, businesses, people walking down the street.

Reach a point where you decide "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!" (to quote "Network")

thank you police

 

here you have to pay them to do their job

8 minutes ago, scorecard said:

But if there was more trust of the police and the police behaved in an appropriate fair manner, which I would they are trained to do, then anti-riot gear would not be needed.

as with all the other deaths while being arrested in America the marxist MSM only give you the 20 seconds of "damning evidence" that this was a racist white cop killing an unarmed, peace loving, hard working, pillar of society black family man on his way to volunteer at the soup kitchen.  What they don't show you is the lead up to the incident and the decisions and actions of the man getting arrested that ultimately contribute to him being killed.  The common theme?  The criminals inability to follow simple and clear instructions by the arresting officer.

He was being arrested on suspicion of using a counterfeit $20 bill to pay for some stuff. The grocer could have been racist, he may have been tripping, or he may have just made a mistake. And even if it was counterfeit, that is not evidence that Floyd knew that. Regardless, once a subject is subdued, on the ground, in handcuffs, and without a weapon, you put him in the patrol car, and bring him in. What this pig cop did was beyond the pale. I truly hope he is tried for murder and convicted, and that the three other cops with him are tried for accessory to murder. They could have and should have stopped him.

 

I am from the US, have traveled all over the US, and I can tell you firsthand how racist many law enforcement departments are. As a white man, I am virtually invisible to the police, as long as I toe the line. However, I have been hanging out with black or hispanic friends, and I see how they are targeted repeatedly, by the police. It is beyond obnoxious. I still find the LAPD to be very, very nasty men and women, and by contrast, I have always gotten along with the NYPD. But, there are some very rotten apples among them all. The police departments in the US are becoming increasingly militarized, and it is nothing more than an excuse, when a cop says he thinks he was threatened. There are many ways to take a man down, without using lethal force, unless he is armed and dangerous. This unrest is justified, from my point of view. People are really angry at the cops, and most people hate the cops, for very good reason. 

22 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

That's a bit rough don't you think?  Besides i'm sure all the Corona fear mongers will have them marked for death for not following social distancing laws.

It's the beginning of anarchy and can't be allowed to spread

Where are the roof Koreans when you need them!

2 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Almost everyone was on their side, black and white, left and right, and then they go mess up the goodwill by looting and burning.

My thoughts exactly , yes we can all see the police brutality here but then followed by looting . Is this really right , 

' Hey police brutality , lets go and steal some clothes .'

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

He was being arrested on suspicion of using a counterfeit $20 bill to pay for some stuff. The grocer could have been racist, he may have been tripping, or he may have just made a mistake. And even if it was counterfeit, that is not evidence that Floyd knew that. Regardless, once a subject is subdued, on the ground, in handcuffs, and without a weapon, you put him in the patrol car, and bring him in. What this pig cop did was beyond the pale. I truly hope he is tried for murder and convicted, and that the three other cops with him are tried for accessory to murder. They could have and should have stopped him.

 

I am from the US, have traveled all over the US, and I can tell you firsthand how racist many law enforcement departments are. As a white man, I am virtually invisible to the police, as long as I toe the line. However, I have been hanging out with black or hispanic friends, and I see how they are targeted repeatedly, by the police. It is beyond obnoxious. I still find the LAPD to be very, very nasty men and women, and by contrast, I have always gotten along with the NYPD. But, there are some very rotten apples among them all. The police departments in the US are becoming increasingly militarized, and it is nothing more than an excuse, when a cop says he thinks he was threatened. There are many ways to take a man down, without using lethal force, unless he is armed and dangerous. This unrest is justified, from my point of view. People are really angry at the cops, and most people hate the cops, for very good reason. 

The worst part is that he knew he was being filmed and still thought his actions were appropriate. 

Nobody is a threat once they have been cuffed and tbf he complied all the way 

Spoke with manners to the police and still got that treatment

That cop never let him get a breath, the piece of shìt

As you say the other 3 cops did nothing so they are complicit too.

Throw the key away for all four, not sure they will last long in prison anyway!

3 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Almost everyone was on their side, black and white, left and right, and then they go mess up the goodwill by looting and burning.

Not messed up any goodwill I have and after reading a number of posts by other posters on this thread that goodwill and support has only been strengthened. 

51 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Could it be that more were killed because more were commiting crimes? just asking ,also i read that this guy had moved to the area to turn his life around ,as he had been in prison ,so was turning it around by commiting forgery? 

by the way ,i am not on the side of that disgusting cop .

Really?!

37 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

It's the beginning of anarchy and can't be allowed to spread

Where are the roof Koreans when you need them!

You would fit right in with the militarized US police.

20 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

as with all the other deaths while being arrested in America the marxist MSM only give you the 20 seconds of "damning evidence" that this was a racist white cop killing an unarmed, peace loving, hard working, pillar of society black family man on his way to volunteer at the soup kitchen.  What they don't show you is the lead up to the incident and the decisions and actions of the man getting arrested that ultimately contribute to him being killed.  The common theme?  The criminals inability to follow simple and clear instructions by the arresting officer.

 

Now I get it, the cops are perfect and they don't need to follow any basic human rights tenants.

 

2 hours ago, Berkshire said:

What happened to Mr. Floyd was a disgrace and the cops involved need to be held to account.

 

But the rioting, looting, violence....equally disgraceful and not helpful to the cause.

Agree 100%.  Why loot, riot and burn your own city and then also loot from the people who you generally do business with.  I get the anger aspect, but there is a proper way to get the attention and ensure it is handled appropriately.  Destroying your own places makes you just as bad as the people you are <deleted> at, amd makes it look like your a child who wants attention by throwing your toys and stuff out of the pram.  Rise above them as Martin Luther King said, march and protest, but to just go on an all out rampage is plain old stupid.  Yes it is America, and they do what they do.  Anywhere else in the world like Hong Kong, China, and even here, Military and government retaliation and justice can be swift and unmerciful....

29 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

thank you police

 

here you have to pay them to do their job

Disgusting example of the worst TVF has to offer.

 

And you managed to be both Thai bashing and libelous into the bargain.

4 hours ago, sirineou said:

Nothing says justice like a 60 inch HD TV.

yes i agree protests my ass Pillaged shops ..theft and damage to property just an excuse a bloke dies and his Brothers  get rich  pathetic

32 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

thank you police

 

here you have to pay them to do their job

What do you mean by “do their job”?

 

46 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

It's the beginning of anarchy and can't be allowed to spread

Where are the roof Koreans when you need them!

Careful, the NRA and the rightwing gun lobby have been peddling the idea of being armed against the Government.

 

They perhaps didn’t have Black citizens fighting the Government in mind, but then they never excluded the possibility either.

9 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

The worst part is that he knew he was being filmed and still thought his actions were appropriate. 

Nobody is a threat once they have been cuffed and tbf he complied all the way 

Spoke with manners to the police and still got that treatment

That cop never let him get a breath, the piece of shìt

As you say the other 3 cops did nothing so they are complicit too.

Throw the key away for all four, not sure they will last long in prison anyway!

They would make alot of goods friends in prison. I hear the average prison population really like racist cops who kill men of color. What can one even say? I have cops in my family. My brother in law, who is a really good guy, is a bit of a racist. Not super hostile, but you can tell it is there. He is retired CHP. His father is retired CHP also, and is a major racist. Also appears to be a decent guy, as long as you are white. We have talked a bit about the police violence, and he tells me how dangerous the job is. I get that. It is dangerous. But, there is nothing dangerous about having a man on the ground, with handcuffs on.

 

Perpetrating violence on him at that point only makes you a massively cowardly, half man. 

1 hour ago, Heppinger said:

Excellent point, not surprising their is no funding to highlight rampant black on white/asian hate crimes across America, a fact the MSM are silent on.

What, if it was a thing then why isn't fox news all over it? 

3 minutes ago, samran said:

What, if it was a thing then why isn't fox news all over it? 

your assuming fox and cnn are owned and controlled by people with differing agendas.  2 sides of the one coin.

50 cents and a wai for the policeman or whatever you people do for forgiveness.

 

 

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

So what? I consider them minor drug offenses. Minor theft. I am personally guilty of all of those charges, though I have never been caught, other than a minor pot possession charge when I was a juvenile, and a charge for stealing a car, when I was 15. I was a major thief until I was 15. I stole alot of stuff. It was a hobby for me. Cars, motorcycles, and merchandise from dozens of stores. I grew up around real crooks. Kids who did far worse stuff. Does that make me a terrible person? Does that justify being murdered by a cop years later? I was dumb kid. I was lucky I was young, and those charges were expunged from my record. What can I say? I grew up in a rough neighborhood. I was easily influenced by my friends. I am now reformed. More or less.

 

He did not commit any violent offenses. Are you justifying the murder, based on his record? If a cop looked at his record, I could see why they would proceed with caution. But, the whole point of this anger and public protest, is that even after he was subdued, the police violence continued. None of this was justified on any level. It is astonishing to me, the high percentage of white men in this world, who cannot admit to the failings of white men. Are we all angels? Do we have a special dispensation of some sort? What on earth are you saying with the above post?

 

When the cops get the call through about a crime from the station, do they get advised about any priors ? 

 

23 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Now I get it, the cops are perfect and they don't need to follow any basic human rights tenants.

 

I'm glad you finally get it and are able to articulate and pair your simplistic conclusion  with your simplistic outlook on life as GOOD v's EVIL.

And sadly enough, any reciprocal action will only be taken to assuage the public and to rationalize the massive costs to the insurance companies. All because some THUG who's gun replaces his nonexistent manhood and erroneously calls himself a public servant ... is a total As*Hole and a waste of oxygen to boot. Prosecute his murderous a*s, ASAP! He was already imobilised w/handcuffs !!!

 

15 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

 

When the cops get the call through about a crime from the station, do they get advised about any priors ? 

 

I doubt it. It is just an unidentified guy in a store. So, you have a good point. No way to know if they had already run a check on him, by the time he was in handcuffs. I sort of doubt it, and even if they had, that sort of violence is never justified, after a man is subdued, in cuffs and on the ground. By the look on officer Derek Chauvin's face, he was doing this for sport. He was extremely cavalier, despite the fact that he was being filmed, and rather than his fellow officers doing what they should have done, which was to kick his puny butt, and knock him to the ground, they all stood around and more or less egged him on. A rather disgusting display of white police privilege and he needs to be punished harshly. I sure hope the authorities have the good judgment to charge him with murder, and the vast majority of us want to see this creep cop spend his remaining years behind bars. He snuffed out a life. And it was totally unnecessary. A toxic mass of a policeman. I have run into many like him, but fortunately I am white, so I did not incur their wrath. I would not want to be a man of color in America.

 

And it turns out the officer was a major trouble maker, and should have been fired a long time ago. He was a menace to society, patrolling the streets, apparently looking to make trouble.

 

The Minneapolis police officer seen kneeling on the neck of an unarmed black man heard saying "I can't breathe" multiple times before he died was a 19-year department veteran who was the subject of at least a dozen police conduct complaints that resulted in no disciplinary action and one that led to a "letter of reprimand." The officer, who was praised for valor during his career, also once fired his weapon during an encounter with a suspect, records show.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/minneapolis-police-officer-center-george-floyd-s-death-had-history-n1215691 

They are still investigating, but I bet all the cops at the scene will eventually be prosecuted.  A conviction? Will wait and see.  It is Rodney King type riots all over again very very sad.

5 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

They are still investigating, but I bet all the cops at the scene will eventually be prosecuted.  A conviction? Will wait and see.  It is Rodney King type riots all over again very very sad.

Don't make the black kids angry.

25 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

I'm glad you finally get it and are able to articulate and pair your simplistic conclusion  with your simplistic outlook on life as GOOD v's EVIL.

Thanks, your compassion and desire to do good is clearly unlimited....