Night of violence across America leaves streets scarred, outrage simmering

[yogi100]

41 minutes ago, H1w4yR1da said:

To you maybe. To the rest of us it's obvious Antifa fascists and anarchists are stirring up a lot of the trouble.

But this bit of trouble is solely down to the actions of those four so called policemen.

[Cryingdick]

11 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

But this bit of trouble is solely down to the actions of those four so called policemen.

 

everything else fell like dominos. Do you never understand the larger context?

[Lacessit]

55 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Internal turmoil and civil unrest benefits the enemies of the USA. I would not be surprised if China, Russia, and Iran have been stirring the pot with their  social media campaigns spreading false information and encouraging violence.

IMO false information and violence in the US is mostly self-inflicted. The Russians, Chinese and Iranians don't need to do anything.

The President feeds out false information almost daily.

[newnative]

4 hours ago, impulse said:

Meanwhile, even more significantly IMO, due to lack of funding for infrastructure, 2 dams in Michigan collapsed, flooding tens of thousands.  And I don't think the nice folks in Flint have non-toxic drinking water even yet.

 

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/epa-says-flints-water-is-safe-scientists-arent-so-sure/

 

Covid19 and George Floyd and racism may have been the matches that lit the fuse.  But that's just the tip of the inequality iceberg.  All the while, billionaires are getting tax breaks and CEOs are making obscene bonuses for laying people off.  People have been warning for years of the pitchforks coming out.  This may just be the start.

 

Agree.  And, add to the mix the trillions of dollars wasted on useless foreign wars that accomplished absolutely nothing.

[lannarebirth]

2 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

There were 3 cops on the body of the black guy, as well as the cop on his neck,

it appeared that he was in handcuffs as well, so what reason at all did the

killer cop have for being on this guys neck in the first place. Intentional

murder that is the only thing I can see.  The 3rd degree murger charge was

pathetic, so it shows what side the police chief is on.

My opinion.  I do hope Floyd gets proper justice.

Geezer

The Somali cop who shot and killed the Australian woman in Minneapolis I believe got 12.5 years. The city settled with her family for $20 Million.

[metisdead]

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[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, lannarebirth said:

The Somali cop who shot and killed the Australian woman in Minneapolis I believe got 12.5 years. The city settled with her family for $20 Million.

In addition to that billions upon billions were saved as there were no riots.

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Low paying jobs are down. If you have skills you now work from home. If you are in construction people are begging you to work as well. Just don't be an unskilled idiot by the time you are 25 years old.

That's been true of most generations. I don't see how you can morph that into a resilient economy.

[Opl]

5 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I am having trouble with the logic in play at these riots. Black people want to be respected more by others, so to achieve that they burn down city centers, violently attack and threaten people, and run amok in scenes resembling war zones for many days on the flimsiest of excuses. I will admit my attitude has changed from complete indifference to a persons skin color to now where I would be considerably more wary around a group of black people. Well done guys!

You don't need to be black to be a looter; you first have to be a moron , and you'll find a high % of morons in absolutely all communities, morons of all types, some of them more respected than others.

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Opl

[spidermike007]

Everyone, and especially the media, seems to be dwelling on the riots. Many people on the ground have stated that the vast majority of the protests, have been peaceful, but the media cannot resist the blood and gore, and the burning buildings. 

 

The real questions are not being asked. That anger comes from somewhere. Few are discussing the underlying issues. You take a marginalized group of people, who are barely surviving. High unemployment rates due to their skin color. Decades of bad behavior by rotten cops, who are overly entitled, and feel they are above the law they are employed to protect. Then you force them into lock down, and deprive them of work and income. Then three months later something like this happens, and everyone is so surprised.

 

The real questions are: 

Why are the people so incredibly angry with the police, and law enforcement in general?

Why are so many black men getting murdered by the police? 

Why would so many protests erupt spontaneously like this?

Where does that disapproval of law enforcement come from? 

Why is there so much socioeconomic disparity in the US?

Why is the unemployment rate for men of color so high in the US? 

 

Is anything being done to address any of this? Will anything be done? One thing that I do know, is that these incidents did not happen in a vacuum. Derek Chauvin had 17 complaints on his record, and several killings. He appears to have been a homicidal maniac, and an extremely violent man. Police are sworn to a higher standard. If they are supposed to serve and protect, what kind of reaction can be expected from an oppressed public when they instead commit murder and mayhem, and intentionally assault their own citizens? 

 

[lannarebirth]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

In addition to that billions upon billions were saved as there were no riots.

 

A couple of reasons I think. White people don't tend to care if black people die or white people either for that matter. Also it was not filmed and right on the heels of 2 other very questionable deaths by police and vigilantes. And lets face it, if this hadn't been filmed the whole thing would have amounted to nothing because the cops would have concocted a story to justify lethal force and the review board would have bought it..

[yogi100]

18 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

everything else fell like dominos. Do you never understand the larger context?

Not really. Would you take the time and trouble to explain it to me.

 

A couple of paragraphs should do the trick.

[Cryingdick]

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Everyone, and especially the media, seems to be dwelling on the riots. Many people on the ground have stated that the vast majority of the protests, have been peaceful, but the media cannot resist the blood and gore, and the burning buildings. 

 

The real questions are not being asked. That anger comes from somewhere. Few are discussing the underlying issues. You take a marginalized group of people, who are barely surviving. High unemployment rates due to their skin color. Decades of bad behavior by rotten cops, who are overly entitled, and feel they are above the law they are employed to protect. Then you force them into lock down, and deprive them of work and income. Then three months later something like this happens, and everyone is so surprised.

 

The real questions are: 

Why are the people so incredibly angry with the police, and law enforcement in general?

Why are so many black men getting murdered by the police? 

Why would so many protests erupt spontaneously like this?

Where does that disapproval of law enforcement come from? 

Why is there so much socioeconomic disparity in the US?

Why is the unemployment rate for men of color so high in the US? 

 

Is anything being done to address any of this? Will anything be done? One thing that I do know, is that these incidents did not happen in a vacuum. Derek Chauvin had 17 complaints on his record, and several killings. He appears to have been a homicidal maniac, and an extremely violent man. Police are sworn to a higher standard. If they are supposed to serve and protect, what kind of reaction can be expected from an oppressed public when they instead commit murder and mayhem, and intentionally assault their own citizens? 

 

 

I am from Minneapolis and have family there 187 businesses were burnt. It started at Lake and Cedar and went up to 1st Ave, If you aren't from there don't pretend to know anything about it. 

 

From the old Sears building to the Kmart that went bankrupt on Lake Street. There is now nothing left.

Edited June 1, 2020 by Cryingdick

[wwest5829]

4 hours ago, fasteddie said:

What a country, violent to the core, the American Nightmare!

Justified frustration/anger among a great many of the working middle class already exists. It was this that had/has some misguided folks supporting The Donald. The latest police killing provides the match to set the anger in motion. We are reminded that while lip service is given systematic inequality continues with little abatement.

[spidermike007]

5 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I am from Minneapolis and have family there 187 businesses were burnt. It started at Lake and Cedar and went up to 1st Ave, If you aren't from there don't pretend to know anything about it. 

I am aware of the devastation. And I do not approve of it, on any level. I am not condoning it. I feel for you. Quite a terrible thing to see your city burned down. You and I are quite far apart on our positions on many issues. But, I like your posts. Many are thoughtful and articulate, and I appreciate opposing points of view. How boring a world this would be, if we all felt the same way, about everything. Mayhem is not a good thing. I am simply pointing out the fact that there are reasons why people reacted with such strong actions.

 

Many do not want to examine that, discuss it, or introspect over it. Many seem to be ready to simply demonize all protestors. Most protestors had nothing to do with the rioting. Many on the ground are speaking out about this fact, that the media seems to be ignoring in their insatiable quest for sensationalism. 

Edited June 1, 2020 by spidermike007

[lannarebirth]

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

Internal turmoil and civil unrest benefits the enemies of the USA. I would not be surprised if China, Russia, and Iran have been stirring the pot with their  social media campaigns spreading false information and encouraging violence.

We are going to get a whole Summer's worth of conspiracy theories from all quarters. Gonna be a hot one.

[JensenZ]

4 hours ago, PatOngo said:

So, where is the leader who is supposedly Making America Great Again. Remember that? MAGA?

Here we go again. Blame Trump for covid, and now for violent protests that would have happened no matter who is in the White House.

[mikebike]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

If you want the cop to walk away free charging him with first degree murder is the perfect way to do so. 

Uhm, 2nd? Seems most aprapos with current public evidence.

Edited June 1, 2020 by mikebike

[Walker88]

I just glanced at my calendar and I swear it said "Demain, c'est le 14 juillet" in DC.

5 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Here we go again. Blame Trump for covid, and now for violent protests that would have happened no matter who is in the White House.

It's justified.

 

Remember.....

 

-He told police 'don't be too careful when you put them in the patrol car'

 

-"Some very fine people on both sides"

 

-At least 300 times barking 'Enemy of the People' at the press

 

-Constant criticism of Colin Kaepernick who took a knee to draw attention to the long list of police killing Blacks

 

-As for CV-19, yea, he could have not tried to play it down for 2 months when he was told repeatedly EXACTLY what inaction would mean

 

The blame is justified, but "No, I take no responsibility".

[Cryingdick]

8 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Uhm, 2nd? Seems most aprapos with current public evidence.

 

If the prosecution thinks they can win that is exactly what will happen. 

[talahtnut]

Rioting and looting is the only way to

get governments attention.

However looting is a regular and highly

organized ruling-class activity in the US.

The recent bipartisan $2.2 trillion

coronavirus pandemic corporate bailout

(passed with only a pittance of relief for

the nation’s working-class majority)

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Edited June 1, 2020 by metisdead
Profane acronym removed.

[Isaan sailor]

Looks like Joe Biden has locked up the Antifa vote.  His campaign donated to a bail fund for these “protestors”.

[phantomfiddler]

4 hours ago, PatOngo said:

So, where is the leader who is supposedly Making America Great Again. Remember that? MAGA?

Be reasonable, you can hardly blame Trump for this !!

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

Be reasonable, you can hardly blame Trump for this !!

He is to blame for throwing fuel on the fire. 

Very much so. 

 

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Jingthing

[metisdead]

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[Morty T]

5 hours ago, johnmell said:

Economy ruined, Pandemic still raging, now this. Trumps America in tatters.

32 dead in Chicago. Last night, black on black crime. Got a 8 second bit mention on the news. No BLM and CNN. 

[Cryingdick]

Just now, Morty T said:

32 dead in Chicago. Last night, black on black crime. Got a 8 second bit mention on the news. No BLM and CNN. 

 

Chicago is one of those places you don't go. It's been like that for decades. A small section of downtown is okay.

[Mama Noodle]

3 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

If you can prove that they are as you say, then I promise to stop thinking of you as just another leftist nutter. ????

 

Id even invite that dude to PM me any evidence whatsoever he has that the proud boys and "MAGA Types" are the 'infiltrators' ????

[TopDeadSenter]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

trump has called for Antifa to be labelled a terrorist organisation although he doesn't have the authority to name a domestic group 'terrorist' as he does with foreign groups

I was under the impression antifa are Hungarian, or at least sponsored from there, so not quite a "domestic" outfit.

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I was under the impression antifa are Hungarian, or at least sponsored from there, so not quite a "domestic" outfit.

And again that nonsense, no surprise though.