Lockdown easing latest: Calls to open bars and clubs ahead of schools rejected

 

Picture: Daily News

 

A public health spokesman said that calls to open up pubs, clubs and discos before schools is being rejected. 

 

Dr Thanarak Phaliphat said that representations had been made by the entertainment industry to ease lockdown for them by mid-June.

 

He said that if that were to happen and if it proved to cause a further outbreak then schools would not be able to open as scheduled on July 1st.

 

His comments indicated where Thailand's priorities lie, notes Thaivisa. 

 

He said that some schools for small children in unaffected areas were being allowed to open before the July 1st deadline. 

 

He said he was more concerned about universities as students there are adults and would mix and congregate after class and represented a far greater risk of spreading the virus than school children who could be monitored at school and then would go straight home.

 

Thanarak also advised against foreign travel suggesting that Thais should consider domestic tourism despite cheap deals to go abroad.

 

He warned against going to Japan despite the country opening up. An exception might be essential business travel. But for tourism purposes it would mean going into 14 day quarantine on return and was just not worth it in his view. 

 

He suggested that all foreign travel for pleasure was not sensible at this time, was problematical anyway and people might wait until there was a vaccine. 

 

The media did not appear to press him on the issue of welcoming foreigners in to Thailand; if the boot was on the other foot 'would foreigners be encouraged to come to the kingdom?' was not a question he faced from Daily News.

 

He continued that the vulnerable like the elderly, people with health issues and the obese should continue to stay home.

 

For many continuing to not go out at all was best despite the easing of restrictions. 

 

Source: Daily News

 

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With no local transmissions for days, where would the outbreak come from? Unless Dr Plipat has other data than us mere mortals.

The whole of Thailand has not been tested . Still carriers out there

don't see an issue with opening bars if restaurants are open, but discos and nightclubs are something entirely different

They need to separate bars from clubs, they are different problems

6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

They need to separate bars from clubs, they are different problems

Exactly Scuba. It is so annoying and frustrating that we have an open air bar with a long frontage for customers to sit and watch the world go by. We can remove a couple of tables for more space, yet we are still forced to close, while down the road there are restaurants open with tables crammed together, fans blowing across all customers, and, although still illegal i believe, they are full of people openly drinking bottles of beer !!!!.........

2 hours ago, DrTuner said:

With no local transmissions for days, where would the outbreak come from? Unless Dr Plipat has other data than us mere mortals.

No local transmissions have yet been detected, I doubt that means conclusively there has not been any. It could come from people crossing land borders illegally. Also those treating the current 60 cases. But I agree, with current data, if Thailand keeps it's borders closed, no need for strict internal measures. 

4 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

But I agree, with current data, if Thailand keeps it's borders closed, no need for strict internal measures.

Except if they want to change the actual world reputation for Thailand

and get ride of the girlies bars, It could be the unspoken project

Schools need to open, the online curriculum even in the good International Schools is just not as effective, kids and young people also need to see there friends again, socialize rather than stuck at home, obviously extra measures need to be put in place within a school environment. If we're to believe the figures then this should be done now.

3 hours ago, DrTuner said:

With no local transmissions for days, where would the outbreak come from? Unless Dr Plipat has other data than us mere mortals.

Do you have proofs that what you said is entirely true for the entire population?

What is the total population in Thailand right now and how many of them were tested? Regards.

They want domestic tourism, but they refuse to open bars or allow you drink at a restaurant.

 

Who would waste money traveling under these circumstances?

If they don't open the bars before the schools open. how the hell we will be able to hold all the meetings to prepare for the new school year?

1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said:

Except if they want to change the actual world reputation for Thailand

and get ride of the girlies bars, It could be the unspoken project

I suspect that some (of influence) would quite like to, err, redefine the parameters for owning and operating the "girlie bars". Perhaps as an adjunct to a casino operation in certain selected areas.

Pubs with social distancing and outdoor facilities should be no problem. GO GO Bars, Night Clubs like Speed and Tawandang, crowded bars that employ Bar Girls who mouch about begging for drinks and more are a BIG problem. Keep them closed.

Edited June 2, 20206 yr by Ranshoko

4 minutes ago, Ranshoko said:

Pubs with social distancing and outdoor facilities should be no problem. GO GO Bars, Night Clubs like Speed and Tawandang, crowded bars that employ Bar Girls who mouch about begging for drinks and more are a BIG problem. Keep them closed.

I don't see the problem tbf, the amount of punters will be minuscule for the next few months at least

4 hours ago, madmen said:

The whole of Thailand has not been tested . Still carriers out there

They can only be carriers for up to 14 days. Also, if carriers were out there the results of them spreading the disease would be seen within 7 days.

 

Pattaya hasn't seen a single case in 48 days and has no Covid patients in its hospitals. Where are all these carriers?

 

 

Edited June 2, 20206 yr by Phil McCaverty

4 hours ago, DrTuner said:

With no local transmissions for days, where would the outbreak come from? Unless Dr Plipat has other data than us mere mortals.

Exactly!

How long do they have to wait to be convinced by their own numbers?

 

Never mind the frustrated customers, the good doctor doesn't seem to be concerned in the least by the tens of thousands of jobs at stake.

 

Open bars, so-called beer bars, do not pose any particular risk, certainly much less than shopping centers or the BTS...

 

And what exactly is the difference, in terms of risk, between a meal in a restaurant with or without a glass of wine?

 

The whole policy looks much more like a war against alcohol than a war against a virus...

 

There should be a twenty-four hour curfew for the next six months with one person per house, then we will surely beat this horrific pandemic that has so far killed sixty people of a nation of sixty-six million.

40 minutes ago, mickymouse1 said:

Do you have proofs that what you said is entirely true for the entire population?

What is the total population in Thailand right now and how many of them were tested? Regards.

I've actually been advocating the exact opposite of my comment for months.

 

The action behind the curtain seems to have been setting up a testing network and getting supplies. It should be adequate now. But, we won't get the raw results and haven't been for quite a while: 

Dr. Plipat works at DDC and he'd have the raw figures, without the "confirmed in two reference laboratories" hurdle. 

 

Actions speak louder than official reports.

4 hours ago, madmen said:

The whole of Thailand has not been tested . Still carriers out there

Less that 0.5% of the population have been tested.

 

The daily figures seemingly reflect a results policy of returnees only ... but without any further information of other testing around the country.

 

If Thailand is as covid free as they would like us to believe why the need for social distancing or bar closures etc .....seems your odds of winning the top lottery prize are far better than finding yourself sat next to a virus positive person.

 

Something simply doesnt add up!!

 

Do you trust common sense and probability based on available known facts or the charade government fantasy announcements.

5 minutes ago, sapson said:

Less that 0.5% of the population have been tested.

 

The daily figures seemingly reflect a results policy of returnees only ... but without any further information of other testing around the country.

 

If Thailand is as covid free as they would like us to believe why the need for social distancing or bar closures etc .....seems your odds of winning the top lottery prize are far better than finding yourself sat next to a virus positive person.

 

Something simply doesnt add up!!

 

Do you trust common sense and probability based on available known facts or the charade government fantasy announcements.

See post #16

 

Also, Thailand has been only testing those who turn up at hospital with symptoms, like many other countries. Not many turning up with symptoms, not many tests.

 

Chicken and egg? Not really.

 

 

Edited June 2, 20206 yr by Phil McCaverty

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He suggested that all foreign travel for pleasure was not sensible at this time, was problematical anyway and people might wait until there was a vaccine. 

I take it this gentleman does not work directly for TAT - LOL - Therefore people will need to make their own minds up when and where they holiday..........LOL

what outbreak ? what first or second wave ?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

what outbreak ? what first or second wave ?

 

 

The ones that the insane conspiracy theorists refer to without any supporting facts/references.

7 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

what outbreak ? what first or second wave ?

http://www.asymco.com/

 

 

That'd be what they call the 1st, but I think it was already the 2nd and the first was in November-February. This was the uptick in March.

. 

Edited June 2, 20206 yr by Enlil

23 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

The ones that the insane conspiracy theorists refer to without any supporting facts/references.

How about german government leaked raport made by whole german commission called by thier minister that they have problem to cover up. Conspiracy is in tv. Raport says its sham or hoax. 

 

93-pages report titled “Analysis of the Crisis Management” has been drafted by a scientific panel appointed by the interior ministry and composed by external medical experts from several German universities.

 

The report was the initiative of a department of the interior ministry called Unit KM4 and in charge with the “Protection of critical infrastructures”.

 

https://www.ichbinanderermeinung.de/Dokument93.pdf

Edited June 2, 20206 yr by Enlil

At least let the restaurants sell wine.

 

People just don't decide to go on holiday abroad, thousands of kilometers away, overnight.

 

We are in June and with nothing clear for the moment, no one in Europe or Japan, for example, is planning to visit Thailand next month.

 

As for China, it is very simple, they won't reopen to international travel before October at the earliest.

 

So local expats can expect to have the bars all for themselves for many months.

Why they don't let hotels serve alcohol to residents.. is equally ridiculous. Who wants to do domestic travel when there no facilities to enjoy.