webfact Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Thailand to train 10 million people in CPR over next 3 years By The Nation Health authorities want to mobilise an army of emergency responders in Thailand by training 10 million members of the public in CPR (cardiopulmonary resuscitation). On Monday (June 15), Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul presided over the Health Emergency Response Outstanding (HERO) Award for rescuers who had come to the aid of victims suffering heart attacks. Anutin noted that CPR increases the survival chances for people with cardiac arrest, which is the primary cause of death among Thais. Health authorities are now organising training for village health volunteers and the general public, aiming to give at least 10 million people life-saving CPR skills within the next three years. So far this year, the 1669 emergency hotline had received more than 90,000 calls for aid from people looking after patients who stopped breathing, said Dr Atchariya Paengma, secretary-general of the National Institute of Emergency Medicine. In each case, the patient’s chance of survival would be higher if the people at hand had knowledge and skills in basic rescue or CPR. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30389703 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-06-16 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, webfact said: Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul presided over the Health Emergency Response Outstanding (HERO) Award for rescuers anutin involved ?; sure to be cock-ups 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 great idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Excellent strategy.... Laws must also change whereby layman first responders cannot be targeted or charged by the Police if providing first aid care. It is often mentioned that reason so many standby in Thailand and do nothing is because they are fearful of being blamed for worsening the injuries which is possible. 'Consistent' first aid training would be welcomed. 1) Don't move if a neck or spinal injury is suspected. 2) Check for pulse - if no pulse perform CPR 3) If bleeding, apply direct pressure These basics will save enough lives - Teaching at Villages and also in schools would be excellent. Additionally: Motorcycle awareness lessons (75%) of the death toll is from motorcycles, mostly young males. Teach kids at an early age the dangers of motorcycling and responsible riding - it could make a difference for some. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 This must be in response to the gentleman who jumped on top of a injured man as a Rescue Volunteer and more than like assisted the mans demise.....No training at all in this country as far as volunteer's go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paiman Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 They will get it all wrong. 45 min foot massage 200 Baht. 45 min CPR 230 Baht. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted June 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2020 Anutin noted that CPR increases the survival chances for people with cardiac arrest. Time to promote this genius ???? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 About time too. Great news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand to train 10 million people in CPR over next 3 years It's a good idea. But...what will probably happen is... The Health Minister (and his helpful cronies) will decide they need...say...1000 Baht per trainee. Then they'll make a big show of it all, while actually training maybe a few thousand people....mainly for the photo op. The whole idea will quickly be forgotten and the rest of the money will become pure profit. At the end of the day...even after giving dozens of government officials their cut of the action....Anutin will still take home trainloads of cash. Never underestimate the truly stupid. Edited June 17, 2020 by Hayduke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Good. Don't forget to keep refreshing the skills too. It's been over 10y since I last practised, I've probably forgotten the proper moves already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwynt Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 When I was at school, long time ago, second year at senior school we recieved this training,. So hardly new. But then I was at school in UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Good. Don't forget to keep refreshing the skills too. It's been over 10y since I last practised, I've probably forgotten the proper moves already. The compression ratio has probably changed since then; I believe it is now 30 compression's to 2 breaths. At least it was last year. I guess they change these ratios for a reason (lost count to the number of changes from when I started first response training in the 70's) so again, I guess it is a good idea for the refreshers. The company I am working for here in Thailand started basic first aid (including CPR) for key personnel about 10 years ago, but have changed to include all personnel on an annual basis, training from the Bangkok (Phitsanulok) hospital team. Hopefully nobody ever has to use it, but always a good thing to know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Laws must also change whereby layman first responders cannot be targeted or charged by the Police if providing first aid care. It is often mentioned that reason so many standby in Thailand and do nothing is because they are fearful of being blamed for worsening the injuries which is possible. absolutely, even in College Students are taught not to touch someone that had an accident as they apparently will be liable in case the person dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, chrisinth said: The compression ratio has probably changed since then; I believe it is now 30 compression's to 2 breaths. At least it was last year. apparently it has changed from 1970 when I did my Certificate, Also, on Thai news we frequently see compressions but no ventilation. In any case: an "old fashioned"-CPR creates better results than "no"-CPR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 they don't learn this during military service ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, DrTuner said: Good. Don't forget to keep refreshing the skills too. It's been over 10y since I last practised, I've probably forgotten the proper moves already. They have changed them from 10 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, chrisinth said: The compression ratio has probably changed since then; I believe it is now 30 compression's to 2 breaths. At least it was last year. Do not know about Thailand but in the west there are no breaths, just keep pumping. Have a look at the photo where the hands are placed. If it were a person and not a dummy he would have a broken sternum if the operator was strong enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Will there be enough blow-up dolls to facilitate this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, GreasyFingers said: If it were a person and not a dummy he would have a broken sternum if the operator was strong enough. Ribs & Sternum fractures do occur frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, faraday said: Ribs & Sternum fractures do occur frequently. Only because of putting the pressure in the wrong area. First thing we were taught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, faraday said: Ribs & Sternum fractures do occur frequently. I remember practising with the dummy, it was very easy to get a red light and a beep because of too much force and wrong moves. Took a while to get the right placement, pressure and rythm. We also practised in pairs, which is far easier as you don't have to reposition all the time. I was taught to clear airways and ventilate as well, I guess that's now old school. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) Medical emergency training should be taught in every high school worldwide. Edited June 17, 2020 by Dap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, DrTuner said: I remember practising with the dummy, it was very easy to get a red light and a beep because of too much force and wrong moves. Took a while to get the right placement, pressure and rythm. We also practised in pairs, which is far easier as you don't have to reposition all the time. I was taught to clear airways and ventilate as well, I guess that's now old school. Yes I remember getting bad back pain after my training; performing Chest compressions is really hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I have been CPR certified and basic first aid trained since 1974. The only time it lapsed was when I was living in Thailand. When I took my last CPR class a year ago it was still 30 compressions and 2 ventilations. Then the process is repeated. It is a good idea to teach this skill in all schools by competent certified instructors. Thailand will also need to change their current laws so people are not held liable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Is this real Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Based on the resounding success of Thais teaching English, I'm sure CPR lessons will be equally successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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