Exclusive: 'Sorry is not enough', Caribbean states say of British slavery apologies

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

If you'd like to send me a list, I'm happy to help you check.

No need, I take great care over who I invest in.

 

From your posts I feel I wouldn’t trust your judgement in this area. 

[shackleton]

Send them the statues  so they can have great pleasure throwing then in the nearest canal river ect

That should be enough plus yes say

 Sorry what happened over 200 years ago

It's the thought that counts 

[Krataiboy]

15 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No need, I take great care over who I invest in.

Even though you couldn't even remember whether you had shares in Lloyds.  

 

[Damual Travesty]

So probably the best thing to do would be to divest all Caribbean islands of British investment dollars and banks. Then create a big "We are the World song" Like "we are so sorry so very very sorry" and put in online. That should just about do it.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

British institutions, he said, should sit down with Caribbean nations to fund development projects - or even consider a sort of “Marshall Plan” to give some of the plundered wealth back - a reference to the U.S. aid given to Europe after the destruction of World War Two.

Another dreamer!

I hope that if there is some effort to provide some sort of financial recompense it is not given to the "leaders", but is spent directly in the community and is not in the form of cash. Perhaps infrastructure such as water reticulation systems could be built and paid for directly to the companies that build them, depending on completion to acceptable standards and no backhanders involved to officials.

[loong]

Maybe Lloyds could fund a project to locate people in Africa who would be willing to swap their lives for the lives of the blacks in the Caribbean. Then pay to transport the people who want to swap to the Caribbean and of course the Caribbeans who want to go to Africa.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

So probably the best thing to do would be to divest all Caribbean islands of British investment dollars and banks. Then create a big "We are the World song" Like "we are so sorry so very very sorry" and put in online. That should just about do it.

Excellent plan. Get the usual bleeding heart celebs to sing another song and the proceeds of the sales could be sent. Should be enough for a few beers.

[Bluespunk]

10 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Even though you couldn't even remember whether you had shares in Lloyds.  

 

Ah, I believe I said I didn’t believe I did but I’d check. Always best to check eh.

 

Nice to see I was 100% correct in my belief
 

Notice how you keep ignoring fact I’ve said happy to take financial hit...now why is that?

Edited June 20, 2020 by Bluespunk

[CorpusChristie]

54 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I don’t know, however the point is moot.

 

I’ve already said I’m willing to accept the financial hit if any of my investments turn out to have such a sordid history that they end up paying reparations. 

Which would result in less monetary return for you ?

Shrewd investing ; Dont invest in Companies that were involved in the slave trade because profits may fall if repatriations are made 

[thaibeachlovers]

 

46 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I would hereby like to apologise to the black community for my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandfathers racial views !

 

I am now waiting for an apology from great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, descendants of all those that enslaved my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandfather and took him to fight in the Roman coluseum 

I'm apologizing for any bad things done by any of my ancestors all the way back to Ug the caveman.

 

 

Edited June 20, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[sanuk711]

."Look on the bright side Doris, think how bad it would be if you didn't have white privilege".

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

Which would result in less monetary return for you ?

Shrewd investing ; Dont invest in Companies that were involved in the slave trade because profits may fall if repatriations are made 

If I lose because of my failing to do due diligence then so be it.

 

Not happened yet. 

 

As to how well I’m doing, none of your business. 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

Americans created Liberia in the 1820's for ex slaves to go back to their homeland, or at least home continent with the capital named after Presindent Monroe. Strangely few ever took up the offer!

and just look what they did with the place! Paradise on earth, isn't it?

[CorpusChristie]

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

 

 

As to how well I’m doing, none of your business. 

I didnt ask how you were doing , just pointing out that you made the decision based on monetary gain, rather than morally 

[Purdey]

Honestly feel bad about what my great great... hmm... great grandfather did. But I dont want to be saddled with his misdeeds. I am not responsible for his actions. I certainly feel assistance with development should not be the result of emotional blackmail.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

I didnt ask how you were doing , just pointing out that you made the decision based on monetary gain, rather than morally 

Good, glad you didn’t ask as it’s none of your business. 
 

Likewise why I invest as I do. 
 

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Good, glad you didn’t ask as it’s none of your business. 
 

Likewise why I invest as I do. 
 

No need to be so rude .

Twice now you have told me that its "none of my business" and I havent once yet asked how your shares are doing .

  You are being rude for no reason   

[TopDeadSenter]

28 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Ah, I believe I said I didn’t believe I did but I’d check. Always best to check eh.

 

Nice to see I was 100% correct in my belief
 

Notice how you keep ignoring fact I’ve said happy to take financial hit...now why is that?

Are you confusing Lloyds of London underwriters where you can become a member or "name", with Lloyds TSB banking and mortgage brokers where you can buy shares? I believe the business being tenuously linked to the racist witch-hunt is the former.

[Bluespunk]

6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

No need to be so rude .

Twice now you have told me that its "none of my business" and I havent once yet asked how your shares are doing .

  You are being rude for no reason   

Yeah sure. 

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Are you confusing Lloyds of London underwriters where you can become a member or "name", with Lloyds TSB banking and mortgage brokers where you can buy shares? I believe the business being tenuously linked to the racist witch-hunt is the former.

There was no such confusion. I referred to the company in the op. 
 

That I am unaware of how to profit from them is further proof I’ve never even thought about them as an investment. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Bluespunk

[transam]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

I am 100% in favour of prosecuting any and all found guilty of taking part in the Holocaust, no matter their age, no matter how minor the role. Any firms involved should be completely stripped of all assets. I really didn’t think anyone would be so dense as to need that explaining.
 

No idea what you are rambling on about with “purge for stardom”. 

Well, you do post a lot of "confused" emijons chap......

????

 

[VocalNeal]

2 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Lloyds of London underwriters

Is an insurance company. People bought shares in investment enterprises so that any potential loss was covered and any profit shared by all investors.

 

They may have insured slave transport ships but they were not responsible for what use the ships were put to. That was the decision of the ships owner(s). 

 

As has been said how far back do we go? Slave trading was abolished in UK is 1833. That is over 7 generations ago. How many people know who their ancestors were 7 generations ago and what they did for a living?

[TopDeadSenter]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

There was no such confusion. I referred to the company in the op. 
 

That I am unaware of how to profit from them is further proof I’ve never even thought about them as an investment. 

You should take care to not falsely smear Lloyds bank with Lloyds of London, they are unrelated. After Lloyds of London has now been called racist for deeds done hundreds of years ago, everybody must join in the chorus and bash Lloyds underwriters. If anybody fails to bash and trash Lloyds it is possible they themselves are a closet slaver/racist/witch and thus should be cancelled from all social media and lose their job and family etc etc. Off to change my Facebook profile to something showing rage and hate to Lloyds of London in case any of my friends think I am an evil racist and do not care for popular marxist and dismantling of capitalism and the police movements. Why is life so complicated in the age of enlightened liberalism?

[TopDeadSenter]

2 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

As has been said how far back do we go?

Something like 10-15 years would be a reasonable max. Black people wanting to take white people's assets for deeds done back in ancient history is classic racism against white people. It is an outrage.

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

You should take care to not falsely smear Lloyds bank with Lloyds of London, they are unrelated. After Lloyds of London has now been called racist for deeds done hundreds of years ago, everybody must join in the chorus and bash Lloyds underwriters. If anybody fails to bash and trash Lloyds it is possible they themselves are a closet slaver/racist/witch and thus should be cancelled from all social media and lose their job and family etc etc. Off to change my Facebook profile to something showing rage and hate to Lloyds of London in case any of my friends think I am an evil racist and do not care for popular marxist and dismantling of capitalism and the police movements. Why is life so complicated in the age of enlightened liberalism?

Didn’t read beyond your false claim I smeared anyone. Show me the post where I did that and I’ll read the rest. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Bluespunk

[transam]

2 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

and this OUR fault how or why...  look who got filthy rich from those trades... 

 

you can point at the kings & queens from European countries and most are still in power & get TAX PAYER money for their expenses

Have you looked up your families involvement in anything.......?   NO, because it would be near impossible, But, YOU could have relatives that were involved in questionable stuff, same as me.  

[CorpusChristie]

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

There was no such confusion. I referred to the company in the op. 
 

That I am unaware of how to profit from them is further proof I’ve never even thought about them as an investment. 

If you deliberately didnt invest with them because of their links with the slave trade , why did you just need to go and check as to whether you have invested with them or not ?

[Bluespunk]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

If you deliberately didnt invest with them because of their links with the slave trade , why did you just need to go and check as to whether you have invested with them or not ?

Already answered this. Read the thread. 

[transam]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Didn’t read beyond your false claim I smeared anyone. Show me the post where I did that and read the rest. 

Now one thing we do know is that the German government of the day enslaved and murdered 6,000,000 Jewish people, and killed millions of others....You, me, and most of us KNOW they did, so should Germany pay for their genocide as you seem to think WE should pay for the slavery thing from centuries back.... ?

PS. Now please don't fuddle-duddle, just a yes or no will do, that is not confusing..

[thaibeachlovers]

26 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Honestly feel bad about what my great great... hmm... great grandfather did. But I dont want to be saddled with his misdeeds. I am not responsible for his actions. I certainly feel assistance with development should not be the result of emotional blackmail.

Given my ancestry I feel very confident that my forebears had nothing to do with slavery.

All you guys that had British, Scandinavian, Italian, African, Egyptian, Arabic and Asian ancestors can carry on and apologise though.