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Old Wive's Tales told by Expats about Thailand. How many can you list?

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6 hours ago, Stadtler said:

That's the first thing you address and you get it wrong.  Not a very good track record in Stadtler's opinion.  I'll bet you like to finish people's sentences and then decide for them how they answer.  Bravo to you.

 

Since you think you know all about Stadtler, why don't you impress anyone you haven't already and tell us all about Stadtler and his finances. 

 

Go ahead.  Take as much rope as you need.

No, you ridicule yourself so good. No need any help from me.

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1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

No, you ridicule yourself so good. No need any help from me.

You put your foot in your mouth.  Now when pressed, it left a bad taste.

 

Stadtler hoped you would have better personal responsibility than this.

 

 

3 hours ago, Stadtler said:

You put your foot in your mouth.  Now when pressed, it left a bad taste.

 

Stadtler hoped you would have better personal responsibility than this.

 

 

Pressed for what? To do like you ask for? Yeah, at least you make me laugh. ????

 

On 7/5/2020 at 10:29 PM, amykat said:

I’ll add to that Sundown, 3 homes rented, each with 2 month deposit, total deposit was kept every time.  After that I bought my home!!

I'll have to agree with this statement.

 

I really like my current condo rental and plan to keep it for some time. However I do not expect to get my 2 months deposit back. Why would I? It's never happened before. 

Honestly, if expats can't be bothered to create a contract for a flat/house rental, in English and Thai, one that covers all the aspects they are concerned about, including the deposit, they deserve to not get it back. This sort of thing is not rocket science and it's not as though this is a new issue or one never encountered before. Let's face it, most large ticket expenses require a contract of some sort, why not the real estate rental.

Just now, Trillian said:

Honestly, if expats can't be bothered to create a contract for a flat/house rental, in English and Thai, one that covers all the aspects they are concerned about, including the deposit, they deserve to not get it back. This sort of thing is not rocket science and it's not as though this is a new issue or one never encountered before. Let's face it, most large ticket expenses require a contract of some sort, why not the real estate rental.

Sounds good for blather.     Why not some first hand facts ... I bet you have those too.  :biggrin:

3 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

Sounds good for blather.     Why not some first hand facts ... I bet you have those too.  :biggrin:

What facts do you want, lessons on how to write a rental contract? There's loads on the internet that can be downloaded and personalised and getting them translated into Thai is only 500 baht per page at MOFA offices.

Just now, Trillian said:

What facts do you want, lessons on how to write a rental contract? There's loads on the internet that can be downloaded and personalised and getting them translated into Thai is only 500 baht per page at MOFA offices.

In your experience how many renters accept your contract. And what cities and towns were they in. details always help with the story. 

Cheers - I have a makro trip,  up.   Aloha

12 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

In your experience how many renters accept your contract. And what cities and towns were they in. details always help with the story. 

Cheers - I have a makro trip,  up.   Aloha

The last one I wrote was seven years ago, the owner didn't have a contract and I asked if I could write one and he said he would take a look at what I produced, I made it clear I wouldn't rent from him without one. He was Thai, had worked/lived overseas before and was renting a fairly upmarket unit, he read the contract and agreed it without any changes. I later bought a condo from a different Thai family but in the same building and again I insisted on a contract which I wrote. The daughter was an English speaking engineer in Bangkok and we sat together for half an hour and agreed some changes to it but it wasn't difficult to agree. Sorry I forgot to say, those things were in Chiang Mai. But I later rented a second apartment in Bangkok using a similar scenario, personally I won't rent if I don't have one.

 

I think the key when constructing a contract is to be fair and reasonable and to include photographs of the entire unit. If the owner won't agree to those things up front you can be pretty certain you will have problems downstream so that should be a red flag and you should find somewhere else to rent. 

Just now, Trillian said:

The last one I wrote was seven years ago, the owner didn't have a contract and I asked if I could write one and he said he would take a look at what I produced, I made it clear I wouldn't rent from him without one. He was Thai, had worked/lived overseas before and was renting a fairly upmarket unit, he read the contract and agreed it without any changes. I later bought a condo from a different Thai family but in the same building and again I insisted on a contract which I wrote. The daughter was an English speaking engineer in Bangkok and we sat together for half an hour and agreed some changes to it but it wasn't difficult to agree. 

 

I think the key when constructing a contract is to be fair and reasonable and to include photographs of the entire unit. If the owner won't agree to those things up front you can be pretty certain you will have problems downstream so that should be a red flag and you should find somewhere else to rent. 

Great story

I had a security deposit ( Chiang Mai ) for the first year. It was returned, had no security deposit for the next 9 years.

Stadtler is still doing his third person shtick. I'd like to know why, but he is unco-operative.

 

If you're going to pay 25k/30k a month to rent a condo and that unit has got a service charge of 6k a month, I would have thought everyone would want to be absolutely crystal about who was paying for what, how much, when etc etc and the only place to do that efficiently is in a contract, I'm hard pressed to believe that many people don't have a contract of some sort.

Pattaya Old Wives Tale?

You used to be able to row out off Pattaya Bay and catch fish. You could also see the sandy bay bottom thru the crystal clear water.:)

8 minutes ago, carlyai said:

Pattaya Old Wives Tale?

You used to be able to row out off Pattaya Bay and catch fish. You could also see the sandy bay bottom thru the crystal clear water.:)

Both of which are quite true, obviously. In the late 1960's Pattaya was nothing more than a pleasant bay occupied by a few fishermen, there's was not much else.

   Here are a few:

 

'Zero dollar tourists' contribute absolutely nothing to the Thai economy.  

Condo projects are built so poorly in Thailand they will crash to the ground in _____ years.  (I've seen 10, 20 and 30 years given.)

Pattaya Beach is so full of trash you can hardly see the sand. 

And, when it rains all the sand washes out to sea and there is no Pattaya Beach left at all.

No expat has ever sold a condo or a house at a profit in Thailand.

Thais will never buy a second-hand condo or house.

Pattaya is dead.

 

 

37 minutes ago, carlyai said:

Pattaya Old Wives Tale?

You used to be able to row out off Pattaya Bay and catch fish. You could also see the sandy bay bottom thru the crystal clear water.:)

   You can still catch fish from the pier near The Palm condo in Wongamat.  Several Thais are regulars every day and I've enjoyed watching them catch fish. 

19 hours ago, robblok said:

Not really just a matter of knowing who to trust and who not.  You got rotten apples everywhere and good people too.

 

I divorced here, but i kept the car and house (says a lot about her). We are still good friends she helps me I help her. So she needed some money to show the bank to set up a company. 

 

Not all Thais are out to cheat you. 

 

 

But but she IS cheating by not having the money to set up a company in the first place.

8 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

But but she IS cheating by not having the money to set up a company in the first place.

If you say so, its kinda like the retirement visa you need to show the money at a certain time. No need to keep it there. 

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

If you say so, its kinda like the retirement visa you need to show the money at a certain time. No need to keep it there. 

Which is also cheating the system., you are required to keep it there for 5 months, unless you pay someone to turn a blind eye, which in my not so blind eyes IS cheating.

6 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

Which is also cheating the system.

No it is not, its following the rules. Just like with retirement visa there is no requirement to keep it there. 

 

Anyway the old wives tale i commented on was that Thais dont pay back loans and are not to be trusted with money. I guess my story proved that. (at least that it does not go for everyone)

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9 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

I'll have to agree with this statement.

 

I really like my current condo rental and plan to keep it for some time. However I do not expect to get my 2 months deposit back. Why would I? It's never happened before. 

Stadtler will help you feel better.  In the off chance, you do get it back, please send it to Kasikorn Bank 2-3574-475-3.

4 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

6 Indians buy 1 coke and 6 straws.

 

Still waiting to see a picture of this.

Oh that is only invented by penny pinching pensioners to have at least someone to look down on.

Court cases are always decided against foreigners. Not true, the occasional farang wins. As a plus, the court discovered another fraud and they tossed the blue-haired hi-so...with a doctorate...in the clink for two years. She did 14 months inside. Cool, eh!

On 7/6/2020 at 4:11 PM, Stadtler said:

Stadtler writes his own lease because the leases presented to Stadtler are uniformly written in poor English and almost always written more like a prison term than a proper lease.

 

Stadtler is in the 2nd year of his lease which eats a month of deposit in 1/12 increments.  Stadtler's lease went down.

 

Stadtler isn't interested in owning property when Stadtler cannot be assured he can stay here year to year.  Stadtler prefers to be fluid.

 

Fluid like running at the mouth, I suppose. Yea! very fluid!

On 7/6/2020 at 1:29 PM, Chelseafan said:

 

I think #2 is partially correct. Its my belief that Thailand is trying to reduce its dependance on tourism (certainly the lower end of the market) and move towards a more sustainable economy. As for those working in Thaialnd, I've heard anecdotally of foreigners being forced out of longterm employment.

 

Yes, Thailand, Vietnam, even Cambodia are slowly reducing their reliance on lower end tourists. That said, my point was (of course expressed in hyperbole) that theoretically, if we were all kicked to the curb, the entire Thai immigration department would end up being jobless. Instead, what I see is Thailand wants to attract rich foreigners and is providing incentives to bring them here, even if the hoops end up not being worth it.

 

Which foreigners are being forced out of longterm employment? I doubt that is happening on any large scale. It does seem to be happening in Laos, China and several other countries though. However, if you mean that there is a general trend to localize jobs once knowledge transfer has been completed, I concur - that process has been happening in Thailand for decades and in China is getting to the point that even high-level foreign managers are being forced out in favor of Chinese, whereas in Laos, western engineers and technical people are gradually being replaced by either Laotians, or regional Asian foreigners (Thais, Chinese, Vietnamese, Singaporeans), because they are cheaper.

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23 hours ago, Max69xl said:

It happens all the time when having a Thai landlord/owner. It's been several reports here. 

Oh, well that changes things.  If you saw reports here, then it must be true.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, farangkinok said:

Of course, they do! 

 

Stadtler thought they only reside on Stadtler's plate. After watching that ridiculous video, Stadtler wonders how long before Peta comes to their rescue.

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