Trump says 'more white people' than Blacks are killed by U.S. police

[Jingthing]

Race baiting "president" needs to be removed ASAP. 

 

 

 

[mtls2005]

Here is a longer clip which contains the president's comments which are the subject of this post...Amazing how he loves to talk down to women reporters. He is weak, shameless, fragile man.

 

 

Edited July 15, 2020 by mtls2005

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

It's possible he might lose but Biden can thank the virus for that. Great economy tanked and Biden unable to speak = a possible win.

You do realize trump was blessed with a thriving economy when he took office joe Biden was a major player in that miracle both the house and senate as well what’s he done?goosed the stock market gave himself a big fat tax break wrecked our crappy healthcare made us a pariah among nations destabilized the worlds economies wreacked our alliances has presided over an absolute debacle of a response to the pandemic and you need to listen Biden speaks real real good factually as well with trump it feels to me that my country has fallen off a cliff he has brought shame and disgrace to the office he occupies 

[simple1]

15 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I don't understand your point. He told the truth and folks are upset.

Yes, trump spoke some 'truth', but his reply was actually a deflection to the sequence of questions raised by the reporter (#19). trump supporters keep going on how they like trump's frankness, the reality is the reporter's follow up question was not answered which is atypical on any politician. trump is no different to many other political players, no matter what he claims - he is a fully meets the criteria as a member of the swamp, in fact he encourages the behaviour., Unfortunately trump leaps beyond the pale with his 19,000 plus lies, misinformation, disinformation statements since coming to power. Equally appalling is trump having senior advisers who are members of the alt right, conspiracy mongers and so on.

Edited July 15, 2020 by simple1

[EVENKEEL]

5 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Yes, trump spoke some 'truth', but his reply was actually a deflection to the sequence of questions raised by the reporter. trump supporters keep going on how they like trump's frankness, the reality is the reporter's follow up question was not answered which is atypical on any political, Unfortunately trump leaps beyond the pale with his 19,000 plus lies, misinformation, disinformation statements since coming to power. Equally appalling is trump having senior advisers who are members of the alt right, conspiracy mongers and so on.

You're all over the place here, stay focused on this one subject for longer than a second. Trump answered a question honestly ...period... that's all folks.

[simple1]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're all over the place here, stay focused on this one subject for longer than a second. Trump answered a question honestly ...period... that's all folks.

stop misinforming - read the sequence of questions I provided

[PremiumLane]

4 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

It’s true, more whites are killed by cops than blacks, but the lefty spin is that they are killed at a “disproportionate” rate to whites. 
 

That may also be true but it’s only a small bit of the data. Black people  account for a “disproportionate” amount of murder and mass shootings too, so it stands to reason  that they are also killed by cops “disproportionately” because of gang violence - not “racism” 

 

The only way to address an issue is to be honest about it which Reuters and the illiberal left have no interest in doing. 
 

There is a massive rise is shootings and murder in the USA over the last few weeks from black gang violence across several cities and that’s not racism, those are facts. 

So basically you are saying, if the facts don't agree with you (that black people are statistically more likely to come to harm when interacting with the police, and looking at population numbers) then you will ignore or right them off. Any other statistics you will embrace - sounds like you are projecting when you say the 'liberal left' don't look at all the facts.

 

And source for that last statement about massive rise in shootings and murder in the USA from black gang violence.

[PremiumLane]

1 minute ago, PremiumLane said:

ccount for a “disproportionate” amount of murder and mass shootings

got evidence for black people being involved in mass shootings? Cos I can certainly show you some that shows that most political mass shootings are carried out by the far-right. 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're all over the place here, stay focused on this one subject for longer than a second. Trump answered a question honestly ...period... that's all folks.

He gave an honest answer which hides the truth.

 

Demonstrating perfectly the misrepresentation of data to hide what the data is actually telling us.

[Logosone]

In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883

 

So clearly violent and dangerous black criminals have more encounters with police, because, proportionally, there are more of them.

 

In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015. That share of black victims is less than what the black crime rate would predict, since police shootings are a function of how often officers encounter armed and violent suspects.

 

So actually it looks like police officers are more careful with black offenders than they are with white offenders, who, as Trump correctly points out, are killed in greater numbers.

 

This despite the fact that African-Americans make up 54% of homicide offenders and 60% of robberies are commited by them.

 

So the whole, entire premise of "Black Lives Matter" is a fraud, a falsehood and a deceit.

[checkered flag]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

Will trump ever get anything right what a stupid divisive comment to make just beggers belief adjusted for population size far and away more people of color are killed by the cops and yes some deservedly so but here will come his apologists to defens his stupid comment guess he needs to distract away from his failed attacks on Dr. Fauci (true to form the first comment goes straight to the safe spot lefties lol

More counter culture BS. With Black on Black murders are a record level and fewer police to control the situation it sounds really stupid. 

We need to take back the initiative from BLM and make it something that benefits average blacks. 

There are many reasons why poverty and crime are high in black communities. Most of it can be traced to well meaning Democrats who where misguided and created welfare dependency. The poor population with no way to pull themselves out of the trap are stuck. Making job opportunity a high priority along with a feeling of self worth is essential to solving these issues. 

[Matzzon]

4 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

It’s true, more whites are killed by cops than blacks, but the lefty spin is that they are killed at a “disproportionate” rate to whites.

Sure, I am pretty sure you are right. The thing is that they seem to miss the important thing here. It does not matter if 10 white or 10 black people gets killed or abused by police. What matters is that the abuse and the violence that is not needed goes on. They just simply have to clean all the bad apples out of the force. It´s really sad that the mental patient for president don´t understand that. He just goes on and engage in the blaming and statistic game and babble. Solve the problem, and there will be a minimum of unnecessary shootings of both blacks and whites. How about that?

[Eric Loh]

Important for US to know where they are now and how to move forward. Trump

is still trapped in past and not able to recognize the present and thus not the President to move the country forward. China and Russia will be happy for another 4 years of Trump. 

[bendejo]

More whites killed by police than blacks, this is something to boast about?

 

And what are the numbers of US military killed for a bounty paid by the Russians, in terms of race?  Most of them white?  is this something to be proud of?

 

 

 

Edited July 15, 2020 by bendejo

[Logosone]

The police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019, according to a Washington Post database, down from 38 and 32, respectively, in 2015. The Post defines “unarmed” broadly to include such cases as a suspect in Newark, N.J., who had a loaded handgun in his car during a police chase. In 2018 there were 7,407 black homicide victims. Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all African-Americans killed in 2019. By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883

[Eric Loh]

11 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Meanwhile Biden is trapped in his basement and not able to recognize the members of his family... 

He should stay there and out of public eye and let Trump run against himself. Polls showing he got his strategy right. 

[Throatwobbler]

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

These are the kind of comments that will be fully embraced by his racist base.  But to the other 70% of Americans, not so much.

You can see that his racist base on here have embraced it.

[Bluespunk]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/14/donald-trump-george-floyd-police-killings?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[Logosone]

"On the most extreme use of force – officer-involved shootings – we are unable to detect any racial differences in either the raw data or when accounting for controls."

 

https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/area/workshop/leo/leo16_fryer.pdf

[baansgr]

6 hours ago, mr mr said:

nice race baiting article. 

 

not sure it's wise to play the facts and numbers game on this subject. 

Why not....will it put into perspective how wrong the blm are?

[Logosone]

When reading the below statement from the BBC that blacks relative to population percentage have a greater chance of being shot you can clearly see that the BBC omitted to control for the fact that blacks commit 53% of homicides and 60% of robberies, therefore relative to population the chances of a black criminal who is armed encountering police is more than 4x higher relative to their population.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52877678

 

Edited July 15, 2020 by Logosone

[EVENKEEL]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He gave an honest answer which hides the truth.

 

Demonstrating perfectly the misrepresentation of data to hide what the data is actually telling us.

So you're saying Trump is smarter than the average bear.

[Logosone]

On Memorial Day weekend in Chicago alone, 10 African-Americans were killed in drive-by shootings. Such routine violence has continued—a 72-year-old Chicago man shot in the face on May 29 by a gunman who fired about a dozen shots into a residence; two 19-year-old women on the South Side shot to death as they sat in a parked car a few hours earlier; a 16-year-old boy fatally stabbed with his own knife that same day. This past weekend, 80 Chicagoans were shot in drive-by shootings, 21 fatally, the victims overwhelmingly black. Police shootings are not the reason that blacks die of homicide at eight times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined; criminal violence is.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883

[simple1]

11 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You're joking right. I responded to question Trump was asked....period. You're certainly full of yourself.

One last time, trump responded out of context - deflection - to avoid the question.  Not unique to trump, no need to keep going on with the trump supporter denials.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

I know the usual posters will say i am racist or prove it ,well i dont come from America so i should not comment but i read the British newspapers and daily see stabbing and young people killing ,most of the pictures of the perputrators are black ,in my old home town most of the violent crime and muggings were carried out by black guys ,from what i see in America there are far more black criminals considering they are a minority as well.

 

Factually you're correct.

 

But the liberal left will say that it's because of the systemic racist discrimination and demeaning oppressive society created by white privilege. With all this white oppression black people would be law abiding high achieving model citizens!

 

They are ridiculous enough to come out with codswallop like that!

[Logosone]

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

One last time, trump responded out of context - deflection - to avoid the question.  Not unique to trump, no need to keep going on with the trump supporter denials.

Surely Trump's correction that more whites than blacks are killed cuts to the very heart of the BLM fraud.

 

This insightful objection removes the whole basis of the BLM fraud.

[Eric Loh]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

President Donald Trump on Tuesday downplayed police violence against Black people, saying that "more white people" are killed by police officers.

Does that implies that white people more inclined to violent crimes than black. In defense, some here will highlight the disproportionate population ratio. 

[simple1]

5 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Surely Trump's correction that more whites than blacks are killed cuts to the very heart of the BLM fraud. This insightful objection removes the whole basis of the BLM fraud.

Unfortunately I'm not permitted to remove the word 'fraud'. But to answer your claim - No

[checkered flag]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Factually you're correct.

 

But the liberal left will say that it's because of the systemic racist discrimination and demeaning oppressive society created by white privilege. With all this white oppression black people would be law abiding high achieving model citizens!

 

They are ridiculous enough to come out with codswallop like that!

The black population has been put in an unworkable place because of the liberal lefties doing everything to keep them there. Every effort to get them off welfare and into jobs is resisted. The cycle of poverty keeps repeating. Trump attached unemployment and it was working until Covid hit.

[Logosone]

10 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Does that implies that white people more inclined to violent crimes than black. In defense, some here will highlight the disproportionate population ratio. 

Well obviously the fact that whites are 60% of the population will have a teeny tiny effect on the number of whites killed by police. 

 

However, the interesting thing regarding blacks is that relative to population, they are only 13% of population but 23% of police shootings fatal victims are black.

 

This is obviously due to the fact that blacks committ 53% of homicides and 60% of robberies. They should actually be 4 times more likely to be shot, not twice as likely, when one controls for the likelihood of armed black criminals encountering a police officer.

Edited July 15, 2020 by Logosone