Trump campaign rejects changing debate rules after chaotic Cleveland encounter

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Trump campaign rejects changing debate rules after chaotic Cleveland encounter

By Jason Lange and Steve Holland

 

U.S. President Donald Trump arrives on campaign travel at Morristown Municipal Airport in Morristown, New Jersey, U.S., October 1, 2020. REUTERS/Leah Millis

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's campaign on Thursday rejected calls to tweak the rules of the next two debates between him and Democratic challenger Joe Biden after a first matchup marred by constant interruptions and outbursts.

 

Following Tuesday night's debate that saw Trump regularly interrupt and talk over both Biden as well as the moderator, America's presidential debates commission said it would adopt changes to allow for a "more orderly discussion" with the next debate scheduled for Oct. 15 in Miami.

 

There was immediate speculation that could include a mute button to limit the interruptions that plagued the initial encounter between Trump and Biden, the first of three before the Nov. 3 election.

 

"Why would I allow the Debate Commission to change the rules for the second and third Debates when I easily won last time?" Trump asked in a tweet on Thursday.

 

He did not indicate whether a change in rules would affect whether or not he participated. Both campaigns agreed to the rules of Tuesday's debate, which had envisioned six 15-minute sections in which each candidate had two minutes to answer a question without interruption before beginning a back-and-forth.

 

"We don’t want any changes," Trump senior campaign adviser Jason Miller said on a conference call with reporters about the debates. Campaign officials did not respond to a question about whether Trump would agree to abide by the existing rules.

 

The 90-minute face-off on Tuesday triggered widespread criticism of Trump and, to a lesser extent, Biden. The Republican president repeatedly bullied Biden and questioned his intelligence, while the Democratic nominee called Trump a racist, a liar and the worst president ever.

 

In a statement on Wednesday, the debates commission said it would announce changes to the debate format soon.

 

Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said the former vice president would participate in upcoming debates under the rules laid out by the debates commission.

 

"The only real question left is whether the President will start following the rules in the next two debates," Bates said in an email.

 

Trump is seeking re-election to a second term in November. While Biden leads Trump in most national public opinion polls, polls also show that the two are neck and neck in several states that could determine the winner of the contest.

 

More than 2 million voters have already cast ballots, with a surge of early and mail voting expected this year due to the coronavirus pandemic.

 

(Reporting by Jason Lange and Steve Holland; Editing by Scott Malone, Alistair Bell and Peter Cooney)

 

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[Tug]

No surprise there trump can’t stand the direct questioning nor the scrutiny of his (or lack there of) policy’s personally I’d like to see him wheeled out like Hannibal lector with the mask removed only when it’s his turn to speak and btw he’s gett absolutely spanked over here we are fed up we are going to ditch this disaster real soon hopefully with no bloodshed 

[TopDeadSenter]

Well at least with this news we know who won the debate. Losers always want to change the rules(just see the electoral college vs total vote count by the left shenanigans since 2016, and recent proposals to trash the supreme court by packing it). I knew Trump won when the roles were swapped. Biden made a dreadful mediator and Wallace as a debater was useless as he couldn't stop changing topics when he got flustered. Hopefully next time it will be a pure Trump vs Biden debate and not some tag team charade. 

 

 Of course Trump is right again, Joe Rogan would be an excellent moderator. He would also get the youth more involved and interested in politics. A win win right? Apparently not. Only Trump agrees with the proposal. Looking forward to the next debate no matter what rules the left try implementing. Questions from the public could be priceless if Biden goes off on his dog faced pony soldier routines. But small advice, turning off Trump's mic will not stop him calling out BS whenever he hears it.

 

[heybruce]

25 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well at least with this news we know who won the debate. Losers always want to change the rules(just see the electoral college vs total vote count by the left shenanigans since 2016, and recent proposals to trash the supreme court by packing it). I knew Trump won when the roles were swapped. Biden made a dreadful mediator and Wallace as a debater was useless as he couldn't stop changing topics when he got flustered. Hopefully next time it will be a pure Trump vs Biden debate and not some tag team charade. 

 

 Of course Trump is right again, Joe Rogan would be an excellent moderator. He would also get the youth more involved and interested in politics. A win win right? Apparently not. Only Trump agrees with the proposal. Looking forward to the next debate no matter what rules the left try implementing. Questions from the public could be priceless if Biden goes off on his dog faced pony soldier routines. But small advice, turning off Trump's mic will not stop him calling out BS whenever he hears it.

 

Biden wasn't the mediator, Wallace wasn't the debater, and that wasn't a debate.  That was Trump acting like a spoiled brat and not letting anyone talk.

[worgeordie]

Put one of those electronic collars around Trump's neck,like they

use for dogs to stop them barking,few more volts needed,i suspect

there would be many volunteers lining up to press the button to

stop him barking...

regards worgeordie 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well at least with this news we know who won the debate. Losers always want to change the rules(just see the electoral college vs total vote count by the left shenanigans since 2016, and recent proposals to trash the supreme court by packing it). I knew Trump won when the roles were swapped. Biden made a dreadful mediator and Wallace as a debater was useless as he couldn't stop changing topics when he got flustered. Hopefully next time it will be a pure Trump vs Biden debate and not some tag team charade. 

 

 Of course Trump is right again, Joe Rogan would be an excellent moderator. He would also get the youth more involved and interested in politics. A win win right? Apparently not. Only Trump agrees with the proposal. Looking forward to the next debate no matter what rules the left try implementing. Questions from the public could be priceless if Biden goes off on his dog faced pony soldier routines. But small advice, turning off Trump's mic will not stop him calling out BS whenever he hears it.

 

Let’s see what the polls have to say over the coming week.

 

’Questions from the public’ now that is a good idea, though it seems you’ve forgotten Trump’s ‘town hall’ already.

 

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well at least with this news we know who won the debate. Losers always want to change the rules(just see the electoral college vs total vote count by the left shenanigans since 2016, and recent proposals to trash the supreme court by packing it). I knew Trump won when the roles were swapped. Biden made a dreadful mediator and Wallace as a debater was useless as he couldn't stop changing topics when he got flustered. Hopefully next time it will be a pure Trump vs Biden debate and not some tag team charade. 

 

 Of course Trump is right again, Joe Rogan would be an excellent moderator. He would also get the youth more involved and interested in politics. A win win right? Apparently not. Only Trump agrees with the proposal. Looking forward to the next debate no matter what rules the left try implementing. Questions from the public could be priceless if Biden goes off on his dog faced pony soldier routines. But small advice, turning off Trump's mic will not stop him calling out BS whenever he hears it.

 

The losers were the American public.

That shambles of a debate was meant to inform people as to the policies and views of the two candidates. 

If you were an undecided voter you learned nothing except that US politics has now reached a new low.

[TheFishman1]

 Trump was just terrible As an undecided voter I realize now that Trump should not have more time in the oval office the duty of the president is to protect America and its citizens by calling on the white boys were the poor boys whatever the name is  Is a hate group and Trump once again just wants to divide and cause chaos Trump couldn’t even follow the rules that they agreed on jump will go down in history as the worst president

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well at least with this news we know who won the debate. Losers always want to change the rules(just see the electoral college vs total vote count by the left shenanigans since 2016, and recent proposals to trash the supreme court by packing it). I knew Trump won when the roles were swapped. Biden made a dreadful mediator and Wallace as a debater was useless as he couldn't stop changing topics when he got flustered. Hopefully next time it will be a pure Trump vs Biden debate and not some tag team charade. 

 

 Of course Trump is right again, Joe Rogan would be an excellent moderator. He would also get the youth more involved and interested in politics. A win win right? Apparently not. Only Trump agrees with the proposal. Looking forward to the next debate no matter what rules the left try implementing. Questions from the public could be priceless if Biden goes off on his dog faced pony soldier routines. But small advice, turning off Trump's mic will not stop him calling out BS whenever he hears it.

 

You couldn't be more wrong. There was no winner, just one loser: the american public.

[TopDeadSenter]

3 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

Trump was just terrible As an undecided voter I realize now that Trump should not have more time in the oval office the duty of the president is to protect America and its citizens by calling on the white boys were the poor boys whatever the name is  Is a hate group

They are called Proud Boys. They are led by a Hispanic gentleman, Enrique Tarrio. So other than in Biden's head and some of the fake news media they are clearly not white supremacists. The Proud Boys are a major concern to the left, hence the false smears. This is mainly because if more Latino's vote for Trump than the meagre % forecast to, it will cause a Trump landslide. 

[Paul Henry]

Numerous polls have shown Biden beat Trump by a large margin.Trump doesn't know how or what a debate is.Still thinks he is running a reality TV show and its all about him.Future debates will be a waste of time because Trump has no policy agenda to discuss or defend. All he wants to do is remove all of Obamas implementations, the Republicans had the opportunity to discuss and argue against policies that Obama presented. Spoilt Brat wants to now change them after the event. Trump is NOT a party man but a self opinionated,uneducated coward and liar.

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

They are called Proud Boys. They are led by a Hispanic gentleman, Enrique Tarrio. So other than in Biden's head and some of the fake news media they are clearly not white supremacists. The Proud Boys are a major concern to the left, hence the false smears. This is mainly because if more Latino's vote for Trump than the meagre % forecast to, it will cause a Trump landslide. 

Thanks for sharing your knowledge here, much appreciated. Especially so with the depth of it, much better than the knowledge of FBI and other security and intelligence agencies.

[riclag]

6 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

 Trump was just terrible As an undecided voter I realize now that Trump should not have more time in the oval office the duty of the president is to protect America and its citizens by calling on the white boys were the poor boys whatever the name is  Is a hate group and Trump once again just wants to divide and cause chaos Trump couldn’t even follow the rules that they agreed on jump will go down in history as the worst president

 

 biden interupted first ! The "poor boys" /proudboys) have been a single pixel in the cameras eyes the last 4 months as compared to the groups the msm has shown with the hammer and sickle shields 

[2 is 1]

Trump. Actualy even txt about that man is waste of "paper". Nobody going to remember him after January.  He's going to be only number 45 in history. Nothing else! Hes like this "artist" from Finland, he really think hes good but nobody don't want listen!

 

 

[Emdog]

Trump's goals did not include having a debate as the term is generally understood. Was reported he didn't prep for debate as would be expected by normal people entering a debate. Given his goals, he didn't need to.

His goal was to create chaos and general disgust with election system, lowering voter turnout.

He won the "debate" clearly if those were his goals.

Like a farang marrying a bar girl: he thinks it's for love and approaches it as that. She sees it as money opportunity.

Did anyone really expect Trump to behave and follow agreement? We've waited 4 yrs to act "presidential" & hasn't happened yet.

 

[newnative]

Trump saying he won the debate.  Ha.  As my father used to say, that's rich.   Yet another lie from this big, fat, spoiled brat.  Oh, by the way, I volunteer to operate the electric shock dog collar thing at the next debate.  

[2 is 1]

Its amazing that globally 38% of all BS talk about covid is coming from Trump! There is 7.6 billion people and this donk has win this "poll"! Maybe hes proud about him self! Like all other sht what he start! 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/10/01/trump-is-single-largest-driver-of-covid-19-misinformation-cornell-study-finds/#bfea8646d70f

Edited October 2, 2020 by 2 is 1

[thaibeachlovers]

IMO they should either bring in a physical barrier between them ( even have each in a seperate room and video conference ) and muting the mic of the one not supposed to be speaking or cancel them altogether. No one won that fiasco.

[welovesundaysatspace]

48 minutes ago, riclag said:

biden interupted first !

You sound like my little nephew. He’s 5. 

 

[bendejo]

The rules do not have to be changed.  The broadcaster, however, is responsible for what goes out over the air, and thus has editorial discretion on their side.  Maybe DT will disband the FCC.

Let the orange guy rave on, "give him enough rope."  That thing about using the word "smart" seems to have hit a nerve.  Maybe he will crack right there on live TV. 

Joe, let the clock run out and meanwhile keep your mouth shut.

 

 

Edited October 2, 2020 by bendejo

[Tug]

40 minutes ago, Emdog said:

Trump's goals did not include having a debate as the term is generally understood. Was reported he didn't prep for debate as would be expected by normal people entering a debate. Given his goals, he didn't need to.

His goal was to create chaos and general disgust with election system, lowering voter turnout.

He won the "debate" clearly if those were his goals.

Like a farang marrying a bar girl: he thinks it's for love and approaches it as that. She sees it as money opportunity.

Did anyone really expect Trump to behave and follow agreement? We've waited 4 yrs to act "presidential" & hasn't happened yet.

 

I agree with most of what your posting with the exception of voter turnouts he is igniting a deep fear of the destruction of our democracy folks are going to turn out big time we want to rid ourselves of this parasite and we will 

[spidermike007]

The only sensible option at this point would be for Biden to wirltbdraw from the remainder of the debates. He does not need them. And Trump will continue with his gutteral, pit bull style. 

 

Or Biden could pull a Reagan. There you go again. 73 interruptions last time. Let's count how many this time. Let Trump bury himself. 

 

Only the most die hard devotees think Trump won that last debate. You have to be consuming alot of Koolaid to feel that way. Biden held his own against a street thug. 

[OneMoreFarang]

What's the point of changing the rules or even having a mute button?

Trump will continue to interrupt. And if his microphone is muted I am sure he will shout to interrupt the others any way he can.

By now everybody should know that Trump has no arguments. He just has a BIG mouth. Anybody with at least half a brain should know that by now. If there is another debate just make sure there is a physical barrier between the candidates. Otherwise Trump will probably walk over and punch Biden - and I am sure his supporters would like that.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

They are called Proud Boys. They are led by a Hispanic gentleman, Enrique Tarrio. So other than in Biden's head and some of the fake news media they are clearly not white supremacists. The Proud Boys are a major concern to the left, hence the false smears. This is mainly because if more Latino's vote for Trump than the meagre % forecast to, it will cause a Trump landslide. 

Thanks. I'd never heard of them and assumed they were white supremacists due to all the media reports. But not that many white supremacist groups have leaders that look like this.

 

 

More lies from MSM.

[TKDfella]

I'm not going to comment on either of the two candidates or the moderator but I was a bit disappointed in the format I guess I'm a bit old fashioned but I think one Democrat asking questions of the Republican and one Republican ask questing of the Democrat and a separate moderator (or chairman) is better imho. I like to decide on the Party's policies rather than an individual's personal characteristics. Take just one example, Global warming (not Climate Change). I am at odds with Pres Trump...I think...on this and I would have like to have heard what he really accepts/denies while facing the cameras proper. All I remember is something about 'electric cars'. Hardly helpful. VP Biden was no help to me either because he mentioned using Trillion(s), I think, for so called 'green ideas' on combating the problem which he said would pay for itself in the end. But that's wrong too. Our technology is not yet at the point where this is likely and it's a matter of spending a lot and not expecting financial returns. There are sound scientific and engineering reasons why this is so (at present) and it would seem to me that VP Biden doesn't know. (sustainable Fusion technology is a good example and the problems involved belong to quantum physics)

[Average man]

Difference between Trump and Biden is when Trump promises something he delivers , when Biden promises something he has no intention of delivering anything except your vote to his party . 47years in politics and he still serves the democratic master , while Trump considers the American people as his boss .

[Captain_Bob]

Was it any surprise that Baby Trump went out of control ranting and raving with non-stop interruptions and breaking the rules? This first "debate" was just more proof of how mind-numbingly un-Presidential this clown is. If he doesn't like having his mic cut when others are speaking maybe he should grow up and learn what a debate is, but clearly that is beyond his abilities. So really what is the point of more debates when one side cannot behave as an adult? Oh dear Lord, let this era of Trump be over soon. America - VOTE HIM OUT! 

[2 is 1]

18 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

Take just one example, Global warming (not Climate Change). I am at odds with Pres Trump...I think...on this and I would have like to have heard what he really accepts/denies while facing the cameras proper.

In debate one thing coming really clear! Biden say he will join back Paris deal! Trump not support that, in Trump mind even the Kalifornia fires is fold of how you "clean" forrest! 

[2 is 1]

8 minutes ago, Average man said:

Difference between Trump and Biden is when Trump promises something he delivers

SHOW ME THE WALL!!!!

 

https://prospect.org/politics/trumps-40-biggest-broken-promises/

 

Only 40 for start!

Edited October 2, 2020 by 2 is 1

[Srikcir]

Any rule changes in the next debate may be irrelevant.

Hope Hicks was recently test positive with Covid 19 and has symptoms. She has recently been in close contact with Trump and many of his senior advisors. According to the government's covid 19 task force guidelines published by the CDC, all should self quarantee for 14 days. 

Thus far, Trump "people" have not been clear exactly how early exposure to Hicks has been, but it's possible that if Trump was infected prior to the last debatem Biden may also be at risk. 

It remains to be seen if Trump will continue with two rallies before the next planned debate.