6 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Its not a question of renegotiating the WA.

But all the things you guys hated in Mays deal like freedom of movement, are going to be included in the FTA.

Johnson is already backsliding on his deadline. He knows he cant go for no deal because its going to damage the economy too much. On top of corona damage. 

 

Freedom of movement? Dear oh dear. 

6 hours ago, polpott said:

Of course they see them, unless they "look the other way". They're just glad to see the back of them and wave them on their way. Not that I blame them, if I were French, I would want the government to do the same.

Good to break international law ain't it?

6 hours ago, polpott said:

Isn't it? The central, and most difficult, part of the WA was the Irish border issue. With the British government urinating all over that, doesn't it bring the whole of the WA into question?

Much of the WA is certainly questionable, I'll give you that.

6 hours ago, luckyluke said:

No country in the E.U. wants "refugees", but there are E.U. laws/regulations they are suppose to follow. 

Interpretations of these laws may vary from one country to another. 

Maybe indeed the French don't see anymore that there are "refugees" leaving France for the U.K.. 

They can not stop them if they don't see them. 

They don't want to stop them - they escort them.

3 hours ago, luckyluke said:

I don't have any idea what the hard line anti E.U. represent in numbers in the real world.

We have here 3-4 "Hard Brexiteers" opposed to the same number of what I would call "Fervent Remainers".

 

Rabid remainers mate, rabid.

5 hours ago, polpott said:

Yep, you need a new de Gaulle. 555

That's probably the last thing the EU needs.

26 minutes ago, nauseus said:

They don't want to stop them - they escort them.

Escorted in France, 5 stars hotels in the U.K..

Some people are not that lucky. 

 

24 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Rabid remainers mate, rabid.

I had to check the word. 

So can also be used for the Hard Brexiteers it seems. 

6 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

I had to check the word. 

So can also be used for the Hard Brexiteers it seems. 

No...just wabid wemainers m8.

Just now, nauseus said:

No...just wabid wemainers m8.

Sorry, I don't get your humour, nor do I understand what you consider as funny. 

We are geographically both Europeans, but so different. 

49 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Sorry, I don't get your humour, nor do I understand what you consider as funny. 

We are geographically both Europeans, but so different. 

Watch a Bugs Bunny cartoon and all may be revealed.

4 hours ago, transam said:

So where does the UK come on the world financial stage in your UK "has been" world....?

At the moment I believe London is second behind New York but I would have to look that up to be sure.

But what matters is you think the UK's "greatness" is derived from how much money is processed through a financial center.

Interesting.

Of course that would change overnight if passporting into the EU market is stopped.

Still think you hold all the cards? 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Freedom of movement? Dear oh dear. 

Either it happens or its no deal.

Given how Johnson is now backsliding on his deadlines what do you think is going to happen?

8 hours ago, polpott said:

I'm not really interested in scoring points. Most of my friends voted Brexit.

 

I'm only concerned about my country's economy going down the pan for some altruistic dream regarding "sovereignty" which was never an issue as, in reality, we never lost our sovereignty.

 

Add that to the hard right's war cry of "take back control of our borders" primarily aimed at immigrants crossing the channel from France. That went well didn't it? In August more immigrants crossed the Channel in one month than in the whole of 2019 when we were still in the EU. As fellow EU members, the French authorities worked closely with the British to minimise illegal crossings. Not any more, if caught with a boat on the beach, the French authorities just say to the illegals, "Bon voyage".

then the British government's going to have to do what it says on the tin...Govern,and if they don,t they,ll face the consequences,people in the uk were getting sick of the eus interferance in british affairs which led to brexit,may the remainer,worst p.m britains had for decades did absoulutly jack in her 3 year term,now we,ve got a worldwide depression in the post.whilst its true the british are one of the most apathetic races on earth when it comes to complaining and voting even a worm will turn,a very big thank you to the remainers for pouring fuel on this current fire,there may be trouble ahead.

8 hours ago, polpott said:

There will be no UK access to the single market. No trade deal, no resolution of the Irish border issue, no access to the single market.

if i knew every thing about future events as you claim to,i certainly wouldn,t be wasting my time posting incessantly on tvf,i,d be spending every waking minute of the day skinting william hills.

15 minutes ago, kingdong said:

then the British government's going to have to do what it says on the tin...Govern,and if they don,t they,ll face the consequences,people in the uk were getting sick of the eus interferance in british affairs which led to brexit,may the remainer,worst p.m britains had for decades did absoulutly jack in her 3 year term,now we,ve got a worldwide depression in the post.whilst its true the british are one of the most apathetic races on earth when it comes to complaining and voting even a worm will turn,a very big thank you to the remainers for pouring fuel on this current fire,there may be trouble ahead.

Trouble ahead Kingdong? Have you been on the firewater or just listening to your right wing Brexiteer echo chambers?

9 minutes ago, kingdong said:

if i knew every thing about future events as you claim to,i certainly wouldn,t be wasting my time posting incessantly on tvf,i,d be spending every waking minute of the day skinting william hills.

Its better to give than receive. No need to thank me.

22 minutes ago, kingdong said:

then the British government's going to have to do what it says on the tin...Govern,and if they don,t they,ll face the consequences,people in the uk were getting sick of the eus interferance in british affairs which led to brexit,may the remainer,worst p.m britains had for decades did absoulutly jack in her 3 year term,now we,ve got a worldwide depression in the post.whilst its true the british are one of the most apathetic races on earth when it comes to complaining and voting even a worm will turn,a very big thank you to the remainers for pouring fuel on this current fire,there may be trouble ahead.

Can't disagree with you but when do they start governing. We've effectively been out of the EU since the beginning of the year and things have gone from bad to worse (re: illegal immigrants).

10 minutes ago, kingdong said:

if i knew every thing about future events as you claim to,i certainly wouldn,t be wasting my time posting incessantly on tvf,i,d be spending every waking minute of the day skinting william hills.

Two screens one to float around on Tvisa the other for the more serious 'Billy Hill' raids ???? one of the perks of working from home, home computer sitting alongside with bet365 running ????

38 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Either it happens or its no deal.

Given how Johnson is now backsliding on his deadlines what do you think is going to happen?

You're saying we have to bring back freedom of movement or the EU won't give us a trade deal? You're just making stuff up now! ????

21 minutes ago, polpott said:

Its better to give than receive. No need to thank me.

the topic is about possible future events,not your love life.

8 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

You're saying we have to bring back freedom of movement or the EU won't give us a trade deal? You're just making stuff up now! ????

Am I?

28 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Trouble ahead Kingdong? Have you been on the firewater or just listening to your right wing Brexiteer echo chambers?

don,t need the mental crutch of alcohol as you appear to.just an understanding of current affairs,and looking back at similar scenarios and their outcomes in history.

6 hours ago, luckyluke said:

I don't have any idea what the hard line anti E.U. represent in numbers in the real world.

We have here 3-4 "Hard Brexiteers" opposed to the same number of what I would call "Fervent Remainers".

 

As far as I am aware "remain" is no longer an option so I do not see how there can be any "remainers"

There are those that have held on to their views regarding the benefits of EU membership, sad situation if that is not allowed.

 

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

don,t need the mental crutch of alcohol as you appear to.just an understanding of current affairs,and looking back at similar scenarios and their outcomes in history.

Really?

Please give details of similar scenarios which resulted in trouble.

 

4 minutes ago, sandyf said:

As far as I am aware "remain" is no longer an option so I do not see how there can be any "remainers"

There are those that have held on to their views regarding the benefits of EU membership, sad situation if that is not allowed.

 

those were the days my friend,we thought they,d never end.......

6 hours ago, sandyf said:

No surprise there, highlights exactly what little respect the hardliners have for the judiciary and the rule of law.

Don't know about you, but I regard the judiciary and the rule of law as two different things.

 

In the case of Brexit, the concept of rule of law has been manipulated by Remainers to frustrate the Brexit legal process. Although we had laws enacted to enable the referendum and give notice of withdrawal, Remainers abused existing laws and created new ones to try and prevent the democratically decided action for the UK. The judiciary were instrumental in the Remainers attempts to thwart the mandated government actions to bring about Brexit and the law for our Withdrawal from the EU.

 

My respect for the judiciary in this case is nonexistent. For the judiciary generally, and their daily failure to adequately enforce the full weight of the law in our courts, my respect also continues to be pretty low. As for the Supreme Court, which is not supposed to be part of the Parliamentary process, but another separate and political construct of Tony Blair, well I hold that with nothing but contempt.

 

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1177051/brexit-news-boris-johnson-supreme-court-prorogation-parliament-ruling-tony-blair-spt

 

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Really?

Please give details of similar scenarios which resulted in trouble.

 

the french getting lairy with germany after ww 1 and the rise of national socialism,the policy of various central governments  to look for a scapegoat for their failure,try staying out the boozer for a night and invest the time in researching such events.

8 minutes ago, kingdong said:

the french getting lairy with germany after ww 1 and the rise of national socialism,the policy of various central governments  to look for a scapegoat for their failure,try staying out the boozer for a night and invest the time in researching such events.

Wow.

You don't do self awareness do you?

The closest we have seen in Europe since national socialism is Brexit.

the belgians are relying on a contract from 300 yrs ago to circumvent the new fishing bans but only 50 boats allowed to fish

 

macron is very lairy as he suspects more violence in the streets