webfact Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Poll shows majority of people disagree with pro-democracy protesters' methods By The Nation A recent poll shows that the majority of respondents are not in agreement with how pro-democracy activists are conducting their protests. The Super Poll Research Centre surveyed 1,216 people nationwide from September 25 to October 3 on unacceptable behaviour. When asked what behaviour was unacceptable (multiple choice), 97.6 per cent of respondents mentioned inciting others; 96.1 per cent -- abusing institutions; 95.7 per cent -- repelling others; 94.1 per cent -- slandering others and 93.4 per cent -- using impolite words. Separately, 97.4 per cent of respondents said the protesters' move to defy laws, destroy properties and threaten others was unacceptable, while 2.6 per cent said the protesters' move was acceptable. Meanwhile, 89.9 per cent of respondents said news about political rallies would intensify the economic and Covid-19 crises, while 10.1 per cent said it would not intensify. An overwhelming 89 per cent of respondents said they do not want protesters to threaten others or use violence, while 11.0 per cent wanted them to do so. Lastly, 94.8 per cent of respondents were unsure when the protesters would use violence, while 5.2 per cent did not doubt the protesters' moves. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30395590 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-10-05 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fasteddie Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 1,216 people don't sound like a super pole to me. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post asiacurious Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Never trust a poll that doesn't publish full details. In this case, there are absolutely NO details published. Who did the poll? Who funded the poll? How were people selected? How many people were contacted and refused to participate? What are the exact questions? What is the order of the questions? Then there is a HUGE problem with the questions that were "reported" Quote When asked what behaviour was unacceptable (multiple choice), 97.6 per cent of respondents mentioned inciting others; 96.1 per cent -- abusing institutions; 95.7 per cent -- repelling others; 94.1 per cent -- slandering others and 93.4 per cent -- using impolite words. That's like asking.... If someone breaks in your home in the future, which of these actions would be unacceptable: Stealing your property? Raping you? Murdering you? Seriously - how is something like that a poll? Most telling of all, this poll was clearly not about anything anyone has either done or is planning to do. It was all hypothetical about what might happen. Here's the evidence of that: Quote Lastly, 94.8 per cent of respondents were unsure when the protesters would use violence, while 5.2 per cent did not doubt the protesters' moves. Apparently no questions like: Do you support the protester's call for new elections? Yes No Unsure No Opinion Or maybe there were questions like that, but the responses didn't fit the narrative. This seems very much like a push poll, where you ask questions to promote a specific narrative. And you ask questions in such a way that people have no real options in how they answer. How wrong is murder? Murder is always wrong Murder is ok if you are a really nice person Murder is great, everyone should do it So yeah, this poll is basically garbage. 28 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stygge Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 I´m sure the way the questions were put and the selection of the respondents were thoroughly bias. But It still shows what the majority of the thai people probably thinks. Confusian and Buddhist upbringing with respect (submission) to authorities, poor schooling, ignorance of the rest of the world, poverty in great parts of the population make them ripe for an authoritharian governement for the foreseeable future. The great majority doesn´t see them selves as citizens of the country, more like a servant - master relationship to the ruleing class. A bonanza for authoritarians. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curt1591 Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 My poll shows that 99% of all opinion polls seem to support the politics of the pollsters. 11 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curt1591 Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Stygge said: The great majority doesn´t see them selves as citizens of the country, more like a servant - master relationship to the ruleing class. I think that, with one man's passing, even many of the older generation have become a bit disenchanted. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Why Me Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 The Nation is owned by the super-rich royalist Bunnag family. Need one say more. 7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 They should run a poll to see how many believes in the polls taken by vested parties in this country... 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 And a poll by Pro Democracy advocates showed that---------. Sorry,removed for reasons of national security 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rocket3rider Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 I think the Superpol by Thai visa readers shows that 100% think the poll is <deleted>. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aroiaroi Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Based on the other polls released by Super Poll Research, I don't necessarily think they are pushing an agenda. It's just what news has become these days.... eg "what is the most dramatic polling question can we make up this time, that will lead to more clicks and revenue for our publisher ?" Actually, sounds like a fun job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Most international reporting has the army and elites at a likability disadvantage. The youth of Thailand see little future and they are right. When Vietnam does overtake Thailand, that will be the proof and it will be too late. t 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hayduke Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, webfact said: Poll shows majority of people disagree with pro-democracy protesters' methods The poll also conclusively found that 99.9999 % of the Thai people strongly believe Thailand should borrow a trillion Baht to buy a fleet of vintage, low-mileage, hardly-ever-used Chinese submarines. Edited October 5, 2020 by Hayduke 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrfill Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Well, at least they managed to keep all the figures under 100% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post loong Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: Separately, 97.4 per cent of respondents said the protesters' move to defy laws, destroy properties and threaten others was unacceptable, while 2.6 per cent said the protesters' move was acceptable. I must have missed the reports where the pro democracy protesters were destroying property and threatening others. Maybe the question was about BLM "protesters" in the USA? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Very hard to impossible to believe one ounce of it is true. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I'll report this poll to the "Fake news agency". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Stygge said: It still shows what the majority of the thai people This is probably true for the older generations, but, based on some of the comments I've been hearing in my test prep classes recently (students in their early to mid 20s), particularly post lock down, this is not true for the younger generations. They know what's going on and they want change and a "better Thailand". Just recently I had papers from 2 students who both criticized institutes which are untouchable. The days of them being completely subservient might be drawing to an end. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Why Me said: The Nation is owned by the super-rich royalist Bunnag family. Need one say more. Not only that, the major owner, Chai Bunnag's wife is an MP for the PPRP party as one of the two (along with Singha heiress) who benefited from the highly dubious counting method when another MP in Chiang Mai got orange carded. Obviously being the wife of the owner of NMG and probably previously a shareholder of Nation MG, is not a problem, when compared to Thanathorn owning a disbanded inflight magazine.... Still waiting for the EC to rule on the many MP's who also had shares in businesses which listed 'media' as a possible business type.... How long has it taken now? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Why Me said: The Nation is owned by the super-rich royalist Bunnag family. Need one say more. 'super-rich' but not the richest RF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: Super Poll Research Centre probably paid by the government or PP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Nothing new...typical handling method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: A recent poll shows that the majority of respondents are not in agreement with how pro-democracy activists are conducting their protests. A recent conversation with many locals & neighbours are totally in agreement with the students and their methods... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Why Me said: The Nation is owned by the super-rich royalist Bunnag family. Need one say more. Isn't this forum owned by them also? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 hours ago, webfact said: 97.6 per cent of respondents mentioned inciting others; 96.1 per cent -- abusing institutions; 95.7 per cent -- repelling others; 94.1 per cent -- slandering others and 93.4 per cent -- using impolite words. and you all think the demonstrations are peaceful and non violent. and you all think the Thais support them. and you all think these protests are accepted. just goes to show how wrong some folks can be ..... lol 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 I don't think there is any such thing as an unbiased poll in this highly charged, politicized, polarized, sectarian world nowadays. For the most part, those who control the communication channels control the narrative, polls included. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Curt1591 said: My poll shows that 99% of all opinion polls seem to support the politics of the pollsters. And the published results of the poll are meant to sway the opinion of those on the fence though implicit peer pressure. Sonchai the moderate is thinking:"Humm, I agree with some of the platform the demonstrators offered, but now I see that most Thai people disagree. Humm, I better not rock the boat. Time to conform with the majority and denounce the protests!" And that's how it's done folks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscc Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, djayz said: This is probably true for the older generations, but, based on some of the comments I've been hearing in my test prep classes recently (students in their early to mid 20s), particularly post lock down, this is not true for the younger generations. They know what's going on and they want change and a "better Thailand". Just recently I had papers from 2 students who both criticized institutes which are untouchable. The days of them being completely subservient might be drawing to an end. This poll is NOT about touchable Vs Untouchable. This poll is about violent method Vs Non-violent method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Never trust a poll, that is sponsored by a very desperate administration, that is on it's way out of power, sooner or later. They sense the time is coming, and they will do anything within their power to deceive the public. Since they have near control over the media, that is a very easy thing to attempt, though I doubt if they are having much success at it. The reality is that more than likely 95% of the public support the protest movement, despise the army, and want change. The youth will eventually gain the upper hand, and the army will not have the moral backing, like it has had in the past, to wage violence against them. This poll represents the opposite sentiment of nearly every Thai I speak with, these days. Fake, fake, fake. The era of the dinosaur is nearly over. Let us hope and pray it happens very soon. Edited October 5, 2020 by spidermike007 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexth Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 hours ago, fasteddie said: 1,216 people don't sound like a super pole to me. The Nation is a joke. Govt. bum kissers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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