Pattaya: Monorail favored over trams as plans set to go to cabinet - only 45 baht end to end

[Leaver]

On 10/8/2020 at 8:09 AM, pattjock said:

In the end there will still be baht busses around to cater for routes not covered by the mono rail.

If this ever gets built, they will most likely ban baht buses so they can push commuters onto the monorail in order to pay for its construction and operation.   

[essox essox]

On 10/7/2020 at 10:27 AM, Henryford said:

It took them 4 years to build a tunnel under Pattaya Klang. You won't see this until 2050.

has the tunnel moved??

it goes under Sukhumvit !!!!!

[a977]

On 10/7/2020 at 2:52 PM, Mak25 said:

Makes sense...Monorail vs. Tram

At 70 years of age and walking long distances with the aid of a walking stick, be damned if I'm going to walk up 3+ flights of stairs when it would be so simple to walk onto a tram. Bit of a difference between photo1 and photo 2

[pattjock]

13 hours ago, Leaver said:

If this ever gets built, they will most likely ban baht buses so they can push commuters onto the monorail in order to pay for its construction and operation.   

Bangkok still have MC taxis, normal taxis mini buses and other forms of transportation in addition to the MRT/BTS, same will happen in Pattaya and the monorail will be largely unused except maybe for transport from the Bangkok - Pattaya train station to Pattaya city.

[essox essox]

2 hours ago, a977 said:

At 70 years of age and walking long distances with the aid of a walking stick, be damned if I'm going to walk up 3+ flights of stairs when it would be so simple to walk onto a tram. Bit of a difference between photo1 and photo 2

so still use the baht taxis.........

[pattjock]

3 hours ago, pattjock said:

Bangkok still have MC taxis, normal taxis mini buses and other forms of transportation in addition to the MRT/BTS, same will happen in Pattaya and the monorail will be largely unused except maybe for transport from the Bangkok - Pattaya train station to Pattaya city.

I guess most travelers on the high speed train from Bangkok will be travelers from flights to Don Muang/Suvarnabhumi with luggage. These travelers will not want to bother with a monorail so will use a baht bus or taxi. I'm sure the high speed train station/monorail station will look much like the bus stations at north Pattaya road and Jomtien with a number of waiting taxis and baht buses.

[Leaver]

6 hours ago, pattjock said:

Bangkok still have MC taxis, normal taxis mini buses and other forms of transportation in addition to the MRT/BTS, same will happen in Pattaya and the monorail will be largely unused except maybe for transport from the Bangkok - Pattaya train station to Pattaya city.

Does Bangkok have baht buses for 10 baht a journey on a set route?  

[sanuk711]

On 10/7/2020 at 10:02 AM, webfact said:

Fares on the Green Line will be 16 baht for the first kilometer and no more than 45 baht for the entire 13 stop route. 

One price would be preferable---like they have had in New York, and other places, Such a mess in places like London in comparison.

Just 45 baht -get on -off when you want. You wont need half the staff you have now.

[pattjock]

Some countries make inner city public transport free to solve traffic and parking problems.

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, pattjock said:

Some countries make inner city public transport free to solve traffic and parking problems.

It is likely paid for by taxes, be it local or national. 

[pattjock]

17 hours ago, Leaver said:

Does Bangkok have baht buses for 10 baht a journey on a set route?  

Bangkok is bigger with a lot more people traveling around. Therefore they have bigger buses traveling on set routes, for less than 10Baht.

 

These buses always seem to be packed even if they are slower and less comfortable than MRT.BTS for the only reason that they are less expensive and sometimes run more convenient routes not covered by MRT/BTS.

[essox essox]

On 10/7/2020 at 5:27 PM, Justgrazing said:

combine the two and when beach road floods it can be a big dipper as well ..

DONT YOU MEAN "log flume" ???

[kingofthemountain]

On 10/7/2020 at 3:06 PM, ChrisY1 said:

If you are retired living in the country, you'll likely be gone to God when this dream is completed!

I hope so

 

it looks more like a nightmare than a dream

dozens of years of roadworks ending with a concrete dinosaur monster

Edited October 11, 2020 by kingofthemountain

[kingofthemountain]

On 10/7/2020 at 6:04 PM, spidermike007 said:

Elevated tracks, though expensive, are always going to make more sense here. Way too much congestion on the ground. It is the only way to get the speed that is needed. Regardless of the cost, Thailand desperately needs far more high speed transport options. The highways here are a nightmare. 

Speed is needed? Why?

For Bangkok, wich is a business city, does make sense

but Pattaya is a holiday resort, do you think the tourists want speed?

You have missed the point, they are here to enjoy their stay, without 

the stress and the speed they have to endure the rest of the time 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said:

I hope so

 

it looks more like a nightmare than a dream

dozens of years of roadworks ending with a concrete dinosaur monster

Remember The Simpsons where a con man gets the city to build a monorail that Homer drives and the whole thing is a disaster? Could reality be mimicking a tv show?

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, kingofthemountain said:

Speed is needed? Why?

For Bangkok, wich is a business city, does make sense

but Pattaya is a holiday resort, do you think the tourists want speed?

You have missed the point, they are here to enjoy their stay, without 

the stress and the speed they have to endure the rest of the time 

I think he was referring to the hi speed ( 55555555555555 ) train, not the monorail.

[kingofthemountain]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Remember The Simpsons where a con man gets the city to build a monorail that Homer drives and the whole thing is a disaster? Could reality be mimicking a tv show?

yep 555

 

  

[Leaver]

11 hours ago, pattjock said:

Bangkok is bigger with a lot more people traveling around. Therefore they have bigger buses traveling on set routes, for less than 10Baht.

 

These buses always seem to be packed even if they are slower and less comfortable than MRT.BTS for the only reason that they are less expensive and sometimes run more convenient routes not covered by MRT/BTS.

So, no baht buses in Bangkok.  Right?  

[pattjock]

16 hours ago, Leaver said:

So, no baht buses in Bangkok.  Right?  

Wrong. There are baht buses in Bangkok running fixed routes for around 10 Baht, same as in Pattaya. Most operate in the outskirts of Bangkok or in areas where there are no big buses. Some operate from BTS stations. Big buses or mini buses are more common but you can still find baht buses in some areas.

[waders123]

On 10/6/2020 at 11:28 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Never been in a skytrain station that doesn't have an up escalator for many years ( took a few years from opening to get them though ). Only at one end though. I always seemed to enter at the wrong end.

The airport train was without though. Fancy that- people going to the airport have bags- how bizarre!

Besides a escalator, elevators will be installed to handle the wheelchairs and other people that need that sort of conveyance.  

[Leaver]

On 10/12/2020 at 1:35 PM, pattjock said:

Wrong. There are baht buses in Bangkok running fixed routes for around 10 Baht, same as in Pattaya. Most operate in the outskirts of Bangkok or in areas where there are no big buses. Some operate from BTS stations. Big buses or mini buses are more common but you can still find baht buses in some areas.

 

If this monorail gets built, I hope some baht buses are still allowed to operate, and not outlawed, thus pushing everyone onto the monorail in order to pay for it.  

[crobe]

On 10/7/2020 at 8:05 PM, Kerryd said:

Um, OK. From where to where exactly ? I'm guessing they are waiting for one of the main roads (Pattaya South, Central or North) to be resurfaced and then they will come along weeks later to start tearing it up and constructing the monorail line.

It will be Pattaya Nua no doubt.
The Purple Line will go from the intersection of Pattaya Tai/#2 Road (where the Muang 8 school is) to "Nong Prue" which could be anywhere on the Darkside.
The Red line will run from Jomtien #2 road to Pattaya #2 road and down to the Dolphin Roundabout at the bottom of Pattaya Nua.

Which would mean the Green line probably runs from the Roundabout up North Pattaya Road and over to the not yet built High Speed Train station.

Once it's done (if ever) it might make things a lot easier for a lot of locals.

Getting to Immigration for example, or to some of the big stores/malls downtown like T-21. There may be stops near places like Friendship/Tukcom, Central Festival and Foodland for example.
And of course, the big one right near Jomtien Soi 5, which may prove to be the most popular stop of them all.

fyi

Planned green route

Train station- Pattaya Nua-2nd road- Bali Hai Pier