Harris, Pence clash over Trump's virus response at U.S. VP debate

[Mavideol]

23 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

 

Fox guest Frank Luntz warns Kamala Harris to not come off as “angry” during vice presidential debate

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-guest-frank-luntz-warns-kamala-harris-not-come-angry-during-vice-presidential-debate

 

trump will lose if no more debating 

no more debating, CDC/NIH and many infectious disease doctors instructed/advise Dems/Biden not to attend as Trump still infected and able to transmit it.... election has been renamed as Selection 555

[onthedarkside]

A troll post re Kamala Harris and several replies have been removed

[TheFishman1]

That guy can tell the biggest lies with a straight face unbelievable and when he doesn’t want to answer a question he goes on His own bazaar world

[wwest5829]

6 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Harris regurgitated every known debunked MSM fake talking point ever conceived.  In other words, she lied often.

And that is what the Independent fact checkers confirmed?

[Phoenix Rising]

'Joe Biden Swats At Pence's Debate Guest: 'Truth Over Flies''

 

Patton Oswald:

"EWWWWWWWWW that fly has Mike Pence on his stomach."

 

 

 

[newnative]

7 hours ago, Mavideol said:

Pence is widely seen as future presidential candidate 555  almost choke on that one,  did he ever wonder why Trump chose him for VP  555

   Trump wanted to avoid the Charles and Diana problem.  No way is anybody going to yell out "Mike!  Mike! Over here!" during a walkabout.  I think Kamala won the debate and Pence, like Trump, didn't follow the rules and never once stopped talking when his time was up.  So tiresome to hear the moderator say again and again and again your time is up.  Where was the taser, I ask?  

[wwest5829]

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Never.  At least that's the answer given by people who value their freedom.

And I must agree with their right to control their own body .. the same as I say the same about women faced with bearing a genetically deformed fetus. The same as I have to defend their right to die ... Although if they cause others to get a Covid, they should be held responsible for damages to others health, or possible death.

[wwest5829]

5 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Didn't need a fly on the wall in this with the one that landed on Pence's head .. was that a bad omen given what flies are attracted to sometimes .. 

“No flies on Pence” wait, what?

[Thingamabob]

Easy win for Pence, easy win for Trump in November.

[joecoolfrog]

6 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Congratulations VP Pence!  You mopped the floor with her!  Outstanding job on taking control and holding your position.  Your question to her “Will you pack the Supreme Court?” was great. She didn’t answer it and you did for her.  Also you said Biden will have to answer it next week.  Outstanding!  Get you a case of beer for that one!

Blinkered nonsense and even you know so.

[Thingamabob]

36 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

That guy can tell the biggest lies with a straight face unbelievable and when he doesn’t want to answer a question he goes on His own bazaar world

....not to mention 'bizarre'.

[newnative]

5 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Harris would not answer VP Pence's question about will you pack the Supreme Court?

 

Sounds like they will if given the chance.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-back-supreme-court-packing

   As opposed to all those Republican senators who said in early 2016, over 230 days before the election,  that a Supreme Court vacancy should not be filled in an election year.  Only to break their word and now want to fill the vacancy with less than a month to go before the election.  Talk about a bunch of total, lying hypocrites.  

[joecoolfrog]

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Easy win for Pence, easy win for Trump in November.

Well if you were going to put your house on a Trump win , you already lost it on Pence.

Seriously every sane and unbiased judge in the universe saw it as pretty much even , no major gaffs and certainly no clear winner.

You may think your man won , but that is simply a manifestation of severe bias I'm afraid.

[johnnybangkok]

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Freedom versus fear.  A lot of people don't understand people who lack fear.  Generally a fearful person looks at a person without fear, can't understand why the person doesn't fear as they do, and because their fear is so real to them conclude that the fearless person must be crazy not to recognize their own fearful personal reality.  Who's the crazy one?  Everyone gets to decide for themselves.  I'm secure in my opinion.

 

Explain Sweden.

Society is made of making personal sacrifices for the good of the majority and of course there are always limits on freedom. People are not free to do what they want; you can't drink and drive, you can't muder someone, you can't rob a a bank and you shouldn't be able to put someone elses life at risk because you think scientifically backed methods of limiting the spread of a deadly virus infringes on your 'freedom'.

Everyone doesn't get to decide for themselves; that's the price of living in a civilised society and one that uncrazy people happily accept because well, most of us aren't really big fans of chaos and anarchy and do have consideration for our fellow man.

You should try it sometimes.      

 

 

 

[J Town]

8 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Well if you were going to put your house on a Trump win , you already lost it on Pence.

Seriously every sane and unbiased judge in the universe saw it as pretty much even , no major gaffs and certainly no clear winner.

You may think your man won , but that is simply a manifestation of severe bias I'm afraid.

An even more sane and unbiased group posted this on Wednesday:

 

"The New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday, in an unprecedented editorial, denounced the [45] administration’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic and called for voting out “current political leaders” who are “dangerously incompetent.”

The harshly worded editorial is the first time the prestigious medical journal, which usually stays out of politics, has weighed in on an election."

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/520091-new-england-journal-of-medicine-blasts-trump-officials-response-to-virus

[joecoolfrog]

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Society is made of making personal sacrifices for the good of the majority and of course there are always limits on freedom. People are not free to do what they want; you can't drink and drive, you can't muder someone, you can't rob a a bank and you shouldn't be able to put someone elses life at risk because you think scientifically backed methods of limiting the spread of a deadly virus infringes on your 'freedom'.

Everyone doesn't get to decide for themselves; that's the price of living in a civilised society and one that uncrazy people happily accept because well, most of us aren't really big fans of chaos and anarchy and do have consideration for our fellow man.

You should try it sometimes.      

 

 

 

Exactly , with freedom comes responsibility. It's odd that the same people who despise anarchists , welcome personal anarchy.

[joecoolfrog]

7 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Congratulations VP Pence!  You mopped the floor with her!  Outstanding job on taking control and holding your position.  Your question to her “Will you pack the Supreme Court?” was great. She didn’t answer it and you did for her.  Also you said Biden will have to answer it next week.  Outstanding!  Get you a case of beer for that one!

It almost beggars belief that all the usual suspects liked this ridiculous post.

What is the point in ignoring reality and living in a fantasy world , do your lives consist of dreams of winning the lottery and dating Miss World and her sisters ?

[Kelsall]

46 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Easy win for Pence, easy win for Trump in November.

Exactly.  Pence beat her fair and square.

[AndyFoxy]

Thought Mike did a great job. She was flustered and got shown up as the flip-flopping fake she is. All she had to offer was a sneer and a snarky comment.

Edited October 8, 2020 by AndyFoxy

[joecoolfrog]

I see Trump has now run away from the next debate lol

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Never.  At least that's the answer given by people who value their freedom.

So as an anarchist , which part of the Trump/Pence manifesto hooked you ?

[MRToMRT]

They should be forced to answer the questions put to them rather than being allowed to spout their own narratives.

 

If I was a voter I would have considered them both poor on direct truthfulness. I gave it to the lady by a small margin, mainly because Pence tried to change the narrative more.

 

I pity the choice though, Trump is a human slug, Biden a walking corpse. 

 

[joecoolfrog]

8 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Exactly.  Pence beat her fair and square.

Mitch laying into Trump and the White House tonight , its started , the rats are leaving the sinking ship.

[Lucifer999]

Harris wiped the floor with pence ... 

[Jingthing]

48 minutes ago, Lucifer999 said:

Harris wiped the floor with pence ... 

Honestly she didn't. 

They both did well enough.

But her main job was to do no damage and also because of widespread racism and misogyny not be as aggressive as a white man would have been. Lots of voters feel threatened by powerful black women.

In that sense she performed her job well.

Help hold on to Biden's massive lead for the home stretch. 

She intentionally didn't even try to grow that lead. Because trying that simply wasn't worth the political risk.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Jingthing

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Honestly she didn't. 

They both did well enough.

But her main job was to do no damage and also because of widespread racism and misogyny not be as aggressive as a white man would have been. Lots of voters feel threatened by powerful black woman. 

In that sense she performed her job well.

Help hold on to Biden's massive lead for the home stretch. 

She intentionally didn't even try to grow that lead. Because trying that simply wasn't worth the political risk.

Pence's main job was to resuscitate a dying campaign and convince voters to come over to their camp. A miserable failure.

[Jingthing]

Just now, J Town said:

Pence's main job was to resuscitate a dying campaign and convince voters to come over to their camp. A miserable failure.

In fairness he had an impossible job. Only a very small percentage of voters are undecided now. But yes. He did fail to turn the election back towards the Super Spreader in Chief. 

[scorecard]

12 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Exactly , with freedom comes responsibility. It's odd that the same people who despise anarchists , welcome personal anarchy.

  12 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Society is made of making personal sacrifices for the good of the majority and of course there are always limits on freedom. People are not free to do what they want; you can't drink and drive, you can't muder someone, you can't rob a a bank and you shouldn't be able to put someone elses life at risk because you think scientifically backed methods of limiting the spread of a deadly virus infringes on your 'freedom'.

Everyone doesn't get to decide for themselves; that's the price of living in a civilised society and one that uncrazy people happily accept because well, most of us aren't really big fans of chaos and anarchy and do have consideration for our fellow man.

You should try it sometimes.      

 

12 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Exactly , with freedom comes responsibility. It's odd that the same people who despise anarchists , welcome personal anarchy.

 

 

Well said johnnybangkok, right on point!

[JCauto]

20 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Harris regurgitated every known debunked MSM fake talking point ever conceived.  In other words, she lied often.

You'll be happy then to list these instances for us, correct?

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, JCauto said:

20 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Harris regurgitated every known debunked MSM fake talking point ever conceived.  In other words, she lied often.

You'll be happy then to list these instances for us, correct?

@Tippaporn: Me, too. Since you appear know every known MSM fake talking point, howzabout giving us three?