20 killed after train collides with bus in Thailand

[Meat Pie 47]

55 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

800 meter visibility , train going 100 KM per hour , 1.6 kilometers per minute , would have given the bus driver 30 seconds to see the train 

You are joking are you? A freight train in Thailand doing 100km per hour?

Lucky if they do 60

[rott]

So in 13 hours the reported number of dead has not changed from "at least 20".

Edited October 11, 2020 by rott

[stouricks]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

where a train collided with a passengers bus

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

A bus heading to a Buddhist temple collided with a train

Confusing to say the least.

[Scott]

Offensive post and replies reported and removed. 

 

[Lacessit]

I'm reminded of a policeman in Australia who was giving a road safety talk. He said when it comes to a contest between a car and a tree, the tree almost always wins.

So it is with trains and buses. Apparently the bus driver did not know that.

[chang1]

9 hours ago, Megasin1 said:

family have a right to be informed of what has happened to their loved ones in an appropriate manner and not find out via speculative and often inaccurate social media

Where did this "right" come from?

It wouldn't make any difference to me but I am pre snowflake generation. 

[kiwikeith]

15 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Sad, so sad. But they never learn....

It is very sad, look at the bus, many of us have ridden these rattle traps, some of the drivers just overtake blindly

and speed.

Another tragedy. RIP

[chang1]

8 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Are you a(n ambulance chaser) lawyer?

No

[chang1]

3 hours ago, RobU said:

We don't use seatbelts on buses in the UK why should they do it in Thailand?

In the UK city buses don't - coaches like this do.

Even though they are fitted, cool passengers don't use them. Anyone with an once of common sense will use them, the rest wait for the warnings and reluctantly slowly belt up until only the most stupid are left.

[Damrongsak]

Brings back memories ...   Back in 1978, my wife and I went from Loei to Chaing Mai for our honeymoon.  Rode a local "Orange Crush" bus over the 2-lane mountain roads to get there.  They were dubbed "Orange Crush", as you would see them in remote police outpost lots folded up like an accordion from a head-on collision with a logging truck. 

 

So the two us are on a bus with the driver and a handful of monks.  Clapped-out bus with no shocks, springs are shot and the steering was questionable.  On a mountain top curve, the driver lets go of the steering wheel to wai a display of flowers and such that marked the spot where dozens of people had plunged over the edge to their demise a hundred meters or so below.  The ride from Hell. 

 

I used to buy some Valium tablets before long distance bus rides; not sure if I did that time.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Damrongsak

[chang1]

1 hour ago, stouricks said:

2 hours ago, webfact said:

where a train collided with a passengers bus

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

A bus heading to a Buddhist temple collided with a train

Confusing to say the least

As they were both moving it doesn't make any difference. Personally I would say the train collided with the bus as it hit the side of the bus but when the bus toppled over it then collided with the train.

[chang1]

6 hours ago, ericthai said:

I dont thing this video is of this accident.  

The bus from the accident was split into two according to the article, the bus in this video is pushed around.

The roof came off but it was otherwise in one piece. 

[chang1]

 

 

11 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

Just watched the video. Absolutely no excuse. Thai driver error once again.

Case closed, nothing to learn, no changes to be made as it has never happened before and it will never happen again. 

 

[Truth Will Set You Free]

16 hours ago, khunPer said:

There is a Youtube video of the accident, probably from a CCTV surveillance camera, in which it seems like there are warning lights, but I cannot see on the video if they were signalling...

 

 

This accident was every bit of the drivers fault. He/she never stop to even check to see if a train was coming. Buses should be required to stop at all railway crossing regardless. 
 

Anyway, what does it matter. There’s no safety regulations in this country to prevent accidents. Don’t even know why they have highway police. Now that they got a new HTIC, all he wants them to do is get a report from the hospital. 
 

life to the Thai is considered expendable. 

[cardinalblue]

Not cutting trees putting up signs to block driver visibility huge problem in thailand...

 

Road safety is secondary to laziness 

[Grumpy John]

Only one thing to say...which is generally not specifically...the Thai engineman don't hit the horn enough when approaching level crossings, if at all.

 

This is how it should be done. 

 

Nothing to do with the size or speed of the train.  All about giving motorists plenty of warning.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Grumpy John

[Badrabbit]

Just another acceptable major accident, thousands have died on the roads this year already and still they do nothing to make the roads safer!

[ChipButty]

 Prathueng Yookassem, the district chief officer, told Thailand’s PBS TV that: “It was raining, perhaps the driver did not see the train.”

All the more reason to approach with caution it is in my book

[bimmerbob]

 

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"but does no barrier to block traffic when a train is coming."

 

Smh - but TIT

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by bimmerbob
did not want my comment as part of the quote

[SupermarineS6B]

17 hours ago, colinneil said:

My mistake, should have said avoidable.

Beware of the Grammar NAZIs ........ They're everywhere.......  

[djayz]

I find the drivers of those private buses to be the most reckless, the most careless and the most dangerous of all drivers. It often seems like they think/act like they own the roads. 

So many dead and injured because of one stupid mistake. 

[SupermarineS6B]

Just imagine this scenario with a high speed train........  Don't you think maybe Thailand would be better just left alone and update them nice old engines that they've had for years instead of wasting money on Chinese junk....  

[Venom]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Governor Maitree said the crossing has an alarm but does no barrier to block traffic when a train is coming. He said the province will install speed bumps and barriers as well as cut down trees near the crossing to improve visibility.

Better late then never. In the meantime 20 dead factory workers have paid the ultimate price for total incompetence. 

 

[SupermarineS6B]

39 minutes ago, Badrabbit said:

Just another acceptable major accident, thousands have died on the roads this year already and still they do nothing to make the roads safer!

Yep, thousands dead and they've destroyed the country for 59.......... Smell a rodent ?  

[djayz]

10 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Prathueng Yookassem, the district chief officer, told Thailand’s PBS TV that: “It was raining, perhaps the driver did not see the train.”

That's a change from the usual "the brakes didn't work". 

[ChrisY1]

" He said the province will install speed bumps and barriers as well as cut down trees near the crossing to improve visibility."

No-one has the slightest idea of "safety first"....and no-one cares..!

Why does it take such a waste of life for leaders to act?

 

[TERMINATOR3AB]

Very sad   on my visits to Thailand   the one thing that amazed me was the  lack of intelligent driving  skills

In  fact   no driving skills  really

I have  full  semi  licence  and full big  bike  licence  and a full international licence

However  no way I would ever drive  or hire a  vehicle in Thailand  

Good   Taxi are  cheap   and only  way to travel if  they go too fast  ask them to slow  they  will  

Thai,s  are   the worst  drivers I have ever seen

All the  money on  Subs  and  Generals  Toys

None on real driver  eductaion  or  change the  driving culture  in Thailand 

So many  deaths   no body  seems  to  care ?

Good Luck Thailand

[LawrenceN]

16 minutes ago, Venom said:

Better late then never. In the meantime 20 dead factory workers have paid the ultimate price for total incompetence. 

 

"Governor Maitree said the crossing has an alarm but does no barrier to block traffic when a train is coming. He said the province will install speed bumps and barriers as well as cut down trees near the crossing to improve visibility."

 

I was gonna comment on this, too. Lines of sight are never considered. A neighbor at the corner of my soi built a new wall. I asked them to make it straight rather than follow the curve of the road, in order to give us (them included) a sight line down the road when pulling out. They looked at me like I had three heads. They have to build over every square inch of their property. The common good never enters into it. 

 

Likewise overgrown trees and shrubs that hide stop signs and other warnings. Sure, Governor, trim the trees now. That will bring those 20 lives back. It never occurred to him to get those road supervisors off their fat a**es to do maintenance proactively. 

Edited October 12, 2020 by LawrenceN
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[ginjag]

Freight train ???   passenger carriages,  

[colinneil]

1 minute ago, ginjag said:

Freight train ???   passenger carriages,  

Have you not seen the cctv camera footage on  this thread?

It is clear it was a freight train, not a passenger train.