Trump to resume campaign as new polls show Biden lead growing in key states

[Jingthing]

27 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

From near one of his recent rallies.  Too funny.

Yeah that's been widely publicized. They probably should have included a Covid-19 testing hotline. 

[RJRS1301]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah and he if he does shut his mouth and leave the country after losing that would be his greatest public service to the country.

Which country do think would grant his residency?

 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Which country do think would grant his residency?

 

Plenty. 

He brings money.

[RJRS1301]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Plenty. 

He brings money.

He probably carries bigger debt than assets.

 

[xylophone]

3 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Trump on steroid is going on a brazen and foul rampage of reckless brags, vile insults and incendiary rally cries that will not register well with the general voters. He is on a path of self destruction. He is unwell in body and spirit. 

And would be unwell in the mind if it wasn't already shot through.........Cofveve and Yo Semite anybody!

[polpott]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

And would be unwell in the mind if it wasn't already shot through.........Cofveve and Yo Semite anybody!

You clearly don't understand trump speak. Yo Semite is his standard greeting for his son in law Jared. Cofveve is the name of his home planet.

 

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by polpott

[xylophone]

On 10/13/2020 at 8:54 AM, Eric Loh said:

He will be relatively safe on the podium and feet away from the maskless, tightly packed and vociferous supporters. He wouldn’t care less for his supporters. Don’t see any value to these rallies attended by his high core supporters who will vote him regardless.

He cares for no-one apart from himself, and as long as he believes he is a sort of "saviour" he will continue with these rallies. Selfish, self-serving lunacy by the lunatic-in-charge.

 

 

 

[onthedarkside]

A post linking to the UK Daily Mail has been removed, since it is a non-credible news source for ThaiVisa.

[Jeffr2]

4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

He probably carries bigger debt than assets.

 

If you follow the history of Trump, he's not a great businessman.  Bankrupt several times.  His investors have lost big time, while he didn't.  And the future isn't looking good for him.  Even Bill Heinecke, the billionaire living here in Thailand and who's into hotels, has lost some 25% of his wealth.  I'm sure the same is true for Trump.

 

It will be interesting to see what happens when the NY DA gets his tax returns.  Can't wait!

 

An interesting read:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes-timeline.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

[TopDeadSenter]

13 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

If you follow the history of Trump, he's not a great businessman.  Bankrupt several times. 

We have been through this several times. I acknowledge on this forum it is "accepted fact" that Trump has been personally bankrupt, I find it sad that false claims are promoted as fact which causes more people - like yourself - to state inaccurate statements as fact. But in actual fact he has never filed for Chapter 7 personal bankruptcy. He has had involvement in businesses which have gone bankrupt aka filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. This is a non issue. I myself have had stakes in several businesses that ultimately filed for bankruptcy, Enron for one. I bought the stake in good faith. That they ultimately failed should not reflect on my character as a stakeholder, or my moral integrity.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

We have been through this several times. I acknowledge on this forum it is "accepted fact" that Trump has been personally bankrupt, I find it sad that false claims are promoted as fact which causes more people - like yourself - to state inaccurate statements as fact. But in actual fact he has never filed for Chapter 7 personal bankruptcy. He has had involvement in businesses which have gone bankrupt aka filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. This is a non issue. I myself have had stakes in several businesses that ultimately filed for bankruptcy, Enron for one. I bought the stake in good faith. That they ultimately failed should not reflect on my character as a stakeholder, or my moral integrity.

There’s a world of difference between being, as in Enron, the victim of mismanagement and criminal accounting, and being the person mismanaging and criminally accounting.

 

 

[Jeffr2]

17 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

We have been through this several times. I acknowledge on this forum it is "accepted fact" that Trump has been personally bankrupt, I find it sad that false claims are promoted as fact which causes more people - like yourself - to state inaccurate statements as fact. But in actual fact he has never filed for Chapter 7 personal bankruptcy. He has had involvement in businesses which have gone bankrupt aka filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. This is a non issue. I myself have had stakes in several businesses that ultimately filed for bankruptcy, Enron for one. I bought the stake in good faith. That they ultimately failed should not reflect on my character as a stakeholder, or my moral integrity.

Chapter 11 is also called bankruptcy.  And his investors lost big time due to this.  This is an accepted fact.  He's done this 6 times.  I know few businessmen who've done this more than once.  And these were his businesses, not somebody else's.  The reasons for the bankruptcy were his, as he was in charge.

 

An interesting report said if he had just put his money in the stock market, he'd be worth more today as he's not done well with his businesses.  His #1 source of money in the past 10 years?  His stint on The Apprentice. LOL

[nausea]

The polls are narrowing apparently. A lot of guys just said MAGA and hung up, and weren't counted. It's anyones guess how this will end up. Given the working class bias about giving information to the elite. And there's little doubt the media is run by a middle class elite. Personally, I just wish the left had a credible candidate. I'm a socialist, but BLM and trans rights aren't my real concern. It's more about healthcare and jobs. 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, nausea said:

The polls are narrowing apparently. A lot of guys just said MAGA and hung up, and weren't counted. It's anyones guess how this will end up. Given the working class bias about giving information to the elite. And there's little doubt the media is run by a middle class elite. Personally, I just wish the left had a credible candidate. I'm a socialist, but BLM and trans rights aren't my real concern. It's more about healthcare and jobs. 

 

"...middle class elite.".

 

Wonder if some real elites are preparing to sue.

 

[johnnybangkok]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

We have been through this several times. I acknowledge on this forum it is "accepted fact" that Trump has been personally bankrupt, I find it sad that false claims are promoted as fact which causes more people - like yourself - to state inaccurate statements as fact. But in actual fact he has never filed for Chapter 7 personal bankruptcy. He has had involvement in businesses which have gone bankrupt aka filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. This is a non issue. I myself have had stakes in several businesses that ultimately filed for bankruptcy, Enron for one. I bought the stake in good faith. That they ultimately failed should not reflect on my character as a stakeholder, or my moral integrity.

Yet more false equivalences from the Master of False Equivalents.
You having a few shares in Enron and then Enron going bust is not even close to Trump and his business bankrupcies. As Jeffr2 has pointed out, he was running these businesses with his name on many of them to include:- 

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump 

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice 

10. The New Jersey Generals 

11. Tour de Trump 

12. Trump Network 

13. Trumped! 

http://labor411.org/411-blog/here-are-all-of-trump-s-bankruptcies-and-failed-businesses

 

All of these businesses failed but he actually filed for bankruptcy with Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino (1992), Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Castle Hotel and Casino (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009). 

 

If you think 13 failed businesses and 6 bankrupcies is a 'non issue' and should not reflect on his 'character or ' moral integrity' then that's probably why you are a Trump supporter in the first instance.

Edited October 22, 2020 by johnnybangkok

[johnnybangkok]

15 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Duplicate

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by johnnybangkok

[Opl]

sorry to interfere in the middlle of the discussion...

with this new version, Ie've lost the "edit" option..

I've noticed Tippaporn edited one of his latest post, so I suupose the pb is not general..

I still can quote but can't edit anymore , it',s not available...

Am I the only one? 

[2 is 1]

Edit comes from 3 "spot right up corner!

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by 2 is 1

[johnnybangkok]

6 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Edit comes from 3 "spot from right corner!

 

Thank you. I was struggling with that as well.

 

[Jeffr2]

51 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Yet more false equivalences from the Master of False Equivalents.
You having a few shares in Enron and then Enron going bust is not even close to Trump and his business bankrupcies. As Jeffr2 has pointed out, he was running these businesses with his name on many of them to include:- 

1. Trump Steaks

2. GoTrump 

3. Trump Airlines

4. Trump Vodka

5. Trump Mortgage

6. Trump: The Game

7. Trump Magazine

8. Trump University

9. Trump Ice 

10. The New Jersey Generals 

11. Tour de Trump 

12. Trump Network 

13. Trumped! 

http://labor411.org/411-blog/here-are-all-of-trump-s-bankruptcies-and-failed-businesses

 

All of these businesses failed but he actually filed for bankruptcy with Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino (1992), Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Castle Hotel and Casino (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009). 

 

If you think 13 failed businesses and 6 bankrupcies is a 'non issue' and should not reflect on his 'character or ' moral integrity' then that's probably why you are a Trump supporter in the first instance.

Well put.  And let's not forget all the criminal charges.  Trump University, Trump Foundation, etc, etc, etc.  With LOTS more coming.  Can't wait till the NY DA gets their hands on his tax returns.  Dodgy stuff there for sure.

[Mavideol]

50 minutes ago, Opl said:

sorry to interfere in the middlle of the discussion...

with this new version, Ie've lost the "edit" option..

I've noticed Tippaporn edited one of his latest post, so I suupose the pb is not general..

I still can quote but can't edit anymore , it',s not available...

Am I the only one? 

3 dots on the top right corner of your post.... hope that helped 555

[Opl]

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

3 dots on the top right corner of your post.... hope that helped 555

Yes! Thank you very much, this option is essential to me !

I've been frustrated since this early morning 

[Mavideol]

3 minutes ago, Opl said:

Yes! Thank you very much, this option is essential to me !

I've been frustrated since this early morning 

no problem, here to help when possible 555

[TopDeadSenter]

Trump support from black voters has rocketed since the debate. 25% to 46%. Not bad going Donald, not bad at all. I wonder how much of this had to do with the debate, and how much to do with Fifty Cent saying he doesn't want to be 20c under a Biden tax regime. Hilarious.

 

 

[simple1]

The very well respected 'The Atlantic' endorses Biden, along with devastating criticism of trump.

 

As The Atlantic stated in its October 2016 endorsement of his opponent, Hillary Clinton, Trump “traffics in conspiracy theories and racist invective; he is appallingly sexist; he is erratic, secretive, and xenophobic; he expresses admiration for authoritarian rulers, and evinces authoritarian tendencies himself … He is an enemy of fact-based discourse; he is ignorant of, and indifferent to, the Constitution; he appears not to read.”

 

What we have learned since we published that editorial is that we understated our case...

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/10/atlantics-endorsement-against-donald-trump/616815/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20201023&silverid-ref=NDY3NTA4NDQ0NDc3S0

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Trump support from black voters has rocketed since the debate. 25% to 46%. Not bad going Donald, not bad at all. I wonder how much of this had to do with the debate, and how much to do with Fifty Cent saying he doesn't want to be 20c under a Biden tax regime. Hilarious.

 

 

Are you referring to this Rasmussen Poll. Next please. 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/405965-pollster-rasmussen-research-has-a-pro-gop-bias

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Trump support from black voters has rocketed since the debate. 25% to 46%. Not bad going Donald, not bad at all. I wonder how much of this had to do with the debate, and how much to do with Fifty Cent saying he doesn't want to be 20c under a Biden tax regime. Hilarious.

 

 

Rasmussen is a notoriously poor pollster.  Unless you are a Trump supporter.

 

50C should be worried.  Trump gave huge breaks to the rich.  Biden's going to change that. 

 

Strong support?  Right....

 

https://www.american.edu/media/news/20200730-new-au-survey-of-black-americans-in-swing-states.cfm

 

Fewer than half (47%) of respondents aged 18 to 29 say they plan to vote for Biden, while 8% support President Trump and 45% say they will vote for someone else, won’t vote, or aren’t sure.

 

In our study, we found that 79 percent of young black Americans say Trump is a racist, 74 percent said he is “incompetent” and 73 percent disagree with most of his policies.