Police deployed in Ratchaprasong area amid planned protest, warn against ‘illegal’ assembly after 5pm

[pixelaoffy]

24 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I was just reading the local and see where more rally leaders have been arrested and also those involved in an incident Wednesday afternoon. 

Looks like the government won't tolerate this behavior and violence much longer.   

It'll all be over in no time ...... 

'behaviour '..? protesting ..violence ?  .none!  Someone sound like a mouthpiece of the junta .fixed fake PM and Gov 

[Surelynot]

5 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

'behaviour '..? protesting ..violence ?  .none!  Someone sound like a mouthpiece of the junta .fixed fake PM and Gov 

Agree...this has got to be one of the most peaceful demonstrations (considering its size and aims) that I have ever witnessed........this will, however, turn violent, but only at the behest of the authorities to justify them going in heavy handed.

[brewsterbudgen]

14 hours ago, Brunolem said:

And then what? Anarchy?

These students have no leaders, no people ready to replace the actual government.

 

Assuming that free elections were held, they would bring back the old cohort of Thaksin cronies, because they are still the most popular where it matters

 

Would Thailand be better off with such a government?

Have you heard of the Future Forward party?  In answer to your final question, the answer is "undoubtedly".

[ThailandRyan]

45 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I was just reading the local and see where more rally leaders have been arrested and also those involved in an incident Wednesday afternoon. 

Looks like the government won't tolerate this behavior and violence much longer.   

It'll all be over in no time ...... 

The Government doing what it is doing by starting of with restricting freedoms and rights will just ramp up the people more by doing what they are doing instead of having the guts to have a face to face, listen to the problems grieved and then be open to making changes and be transparent with what they are doing.

Edited October 16, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[pixelaoffy]

43 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

And be replaced with? 

 

In the past 20 years, what fundamental changes, other than political, have you noticed in Thailand between the times the army was in power and the times it was not?

 

Was the economy worse, the baht lower, the populace poorer, the freedom of movement lower? 

 

An outsider observing Thailand, without knowing who's in charge, would barely notice any difference between life in, say 2012 and 2018.

 

While I certainly not support army rule, I tend to be pragmatic rather than ideological. 

 

 

 

 

 

You can say all that because you are not Thai. Freedom, Democracy and Justice  doesn't matter to you really .. just the 'practicalities and pragmatism' that matters 

Edited October 16, 2020 by pixelaoffy

[Surelynot]

19 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

Was the economy worse, the baht lower, the populace poorer, the freedom of movement lower? 

 

An outsider observing Thailand, without knowing who's in charge, would barely notice any difference between life in, say 2012 and 2018.

Don't you see? That is the problem.....Thais should not be as a poor as they are.....the country is being raped by The Armed Forces, The police, the politicians, the temples and five or so Chinese families.

 

Their disposable income is pathetic for a country with the natural resources and industry it possesses.

[Brunolem]

17 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Don't you see? That is the problem.....Thais should not be as a poor as they are.....the country is being raped by The Armed Forces, The police, the politicians, the temples and five or so Chinese families.

 

Their disposable income is pathetic for a country with the natural resources and industry it possesses.

That is true.

 

The country is still mired in feudalism, and no government, military or else, has done anything to change that.

 

A few families of Chinese origin have literally appropriated the country, while spreading the mantra that Thailand is different because it has never been colonized...good one...

Edited October 16, 2020 by Brunolem

[greeneking]

'An outsider observing Thailand, without knowing who's in charge, would barely notice any difference between life in, say 2012 and 2018.'

Yes, because all non army governments have so feared  the consequences of the army's displeasure they have done nearly everything the army wanted.  They held back from making the radical changes that were needed.

[mtls2005]

Can anyone explain...

 

who are all the government authorites dressed in black, with berets and different color scarves?

 

is there any siginifcance to the color of the scarf?

 

In some photos they seem quite young. And a bit scared, often looking towards their "commanding officer" as if unsure of their mission.

 

I know they are unarmed.

 

Are they the Thai version of ROTC?

 

 

 

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by mtls2005

[FarFlungFalang]

15 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

Yes it's gonna be a long hard struggle but the momentum is there to take this to all the way now, it won't be too long before their numbers reach 100's of thousands, what will the authorities do then, jail the whole country

This lot effectively jailed the whole country in 2014 and stripped them of their rights if I remember correctly, and now the prisoners are getting restless and saying enough is enough and they want their rights back and seek release from imprisonment.

Edited October 16, 2020 by FarFlungFalang

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Have you heard of the Future Forward party?  In answer to your final question, the answer is "undoubtedly".

Yes they tried putting 6 million votes in the bin thinking those votes wouldn't be missed, an assumption that was surely a miscalculation.

[John Drake]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Can anyone explain...

 

who are all the government authorites dressed in black, with berets and different color scarves?

 

is there any siginifcance to the color of the scarf?

 

In some photos they seem quite young. And a bit scared, often looking towards their "commanding officer" as if unsure of their mission.

 

I know they are unarmed.

 

Are they the Thai version of ROTC?

 

 

 

 

The only armed group in this part of the world that I remember wearing scarves was the Khmer Rouge.

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Can anyone explain...

 

who are all the government authorites dressed in black, with berets and different color scarves?

 

is there any siginifcance to the color of the scarf?

 

In some photos they seem quite young. And a bit scared, often looking towards their "commanding officer" as if unsure of their mission.

 

I know they are unarmed.

 

Are they the Thai version of ROTC?

 

 

 

 

Border Patrol Police I think.

 

The coloured scarfs simply indicate which detachment or sub unit they are from. Allows the commanders with overview to see how their men are deployed.

 

"Scared" well, yes, when you are used to strutting your stuff at a road checkpoint, with everyone trying not to be noticed by you, then suddenly coming face to face with tens of thousands of hostile demonstrators is possibly a bit scary!

 

Unarmed, yes, those in contact with the crowds are - too much risk of having the weapons seized. I should imagine that there are plenty of weapons  available if/when needed.

[metisdead]

A post using profane language has been removed.

 

Some off topic trolling posts have been removed. 

[madmitch]

5 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Can anyone explain...

 

who are all the government authorites dressed in black, with berets and different color scarves?

 

is there any siginifcance to the color of the scarf?

 

In some photos they seem quite young. And a bit scared, often looking towards their "commanding officer" as if unsure of their mission.

 

I know they are unarmed.

 

Are they the Thai version of ROTC?

 

 

 

 

Makes them look like Boy Scouts rather than soldiers.

[samsensam]

1 minute ago, madmitch said:

Makes them look like Boy Scouts rather than soldiers.

 

but a simple,effective and cheap way for the commanders to know what resources they have and where they are.

[mtls2005]

4 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Border Patrol Police I think.

 

Not certain that these youngsters are part of the Border Patrol Police? Can you support your thoughts with any details?

 

The patches don't match. But maybe these are Scout BCPs?

 

That said, the chaps in full riot gear at Ratchaprasong this afternoon do have the BCP patches (war elephant with all the options) clearly visible.

 

I think the color scarves denote the actual police group - there are so many groups. Just a guess. Bright green seem to be Bangkok metropolitan Police. 

 

 

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by mtls2005

[nausea]

Well, the extra special emergency decree hasn't had much effect.

[DrTuner]

7 minutes ago, nausea said:

Well, the extra special emergency decree hasn't had much effect.

Yeah, they gotta do a super duper hubba hubba extra special jumbo emergency decree at least.

Edited October 16, 2020 by DrTuner

[Flying Saucage]

They just started to use water cannons against the protesters. Tear gas is mixed to the water.

[nausea]

Can't see this on the live feed. They're marching somewhere, no idea where, it's all Greek to me. You trolling. You do realise that disseminating false information is a prosecutable offence. 

[nausea]

Actually, what really strikes me, given the sort of varied composition of the crowd - grannies, schoolkids, etc., is the absence of monks.

[polpott]

4 minutes ago, nausea said:

Can't see this on the live feed. They're marching somewhere, no idea where, it's all Greek to me. You trolling. You do realise that disseminating false information is a prosecutable offence. 

Its all kicking off now. Water cannon and tear gas being used to disperse the crowd.

 

 

[steven100]

Excellent work by the RTP.  Control and remove the crowd. Violent groups were instructed to leave and disobeyed Khun Prayut's request.

 

The police have done a good job as these thugs were causing violence and mayhem. 

The police restrained from thuggery and did such a good job.

Try doing that protest and violence in Australia or the US and see how authorities respond. 

[oldhippy]

13 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Excellent work by the RTP.  Control and remove the crowd. Violent groups were instructed to leave and disobeyed Khun Prayut's request.

 

The police have done a good job as these thugs were causing violence and mayhem. 

The police restrained from thuggery and did such a good job.

Try doing that protest and violence in Australia or the US and see how authorities respond. 

QUOTE: Try doing that protest and violence in Australia or the US and see how authorities respond. 

True.

BUT.

The authorities in US or Australia are NOT law breaking coupists that killed their way into power.

Edited October 16, 2020 by oldhippy
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[steven100]

Disperse these violent protestors as instructed. I have been in meetings on site today and I can tell you the instructors and speakers urging the students on are not peaceful. 

They were warned several time to move on ....

The police acted with the utmost restraint .....  but they can only accept so much. 

Well done Khun Prayut Chan O Cha and the Police for their professional action tonight. 

[brewsterbudgen]

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Disperse these violent protestors as instructed. I have been in meetings on site today and I can tell you the instructors and speakers urging the students on are not peaceful. 

They were warned several time to move on ....

The police acted with the utmost restraint .....  but they can only accept so much. 

Well done Khun Prayut Chan O Cha and the Police for their professional action tonight. 

Very funny. ????

[steven100]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Very funny. ????

not funny,  did you see different ?   They were told to leave and disobeyed ....

what did they expect ....  flowers & chocolates  ?   

The police did an excellent job imo. 

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, steven100 said:

not funny,  did you see different ?   They were told to leave and disobeyed ....

what did they expect ....  flowers & chocolates  ?   

The police did an excellent job imo. 

Your attempt at trolling is what amuses me.  But as this Forum is hardly used these days (only 11 members browsing this thread) you might want to find a new audience to provoke.

[steven100]

53 minutes ago, Flying Saucage said:

They just started to use water cannons against the protesters. Tear gas is mixed to the water.

Yes I was nearby and seen it on TV.

They were asked to disperse and leave and they disobeyed as such the police moved in.

The police did a great job imo.  These are not students ......  thugs more like it ... just look at the front line screamers.