Staggering early vote turnout boosts hopes for Biden in Texas

[robblok]

Lets hope Biden wins, nobody is worse then Trump. Would not be good for the UK though if Biden wins as Biden is far more pro EU then Trump. Would mean even harder times for the UK too.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, bunnydrops said:

I believe that if the polls had not shown Hillary with a 90% chance of winning many people who would have voted for her diddn't be cause they figured she was a shoe in.

That's a possibility.

 

It's also possible that if she hadn't insulted a significant % of the electorate by preaching to the converted with her "basket of deplorables" speech then more people would have voted for her.

[Captain Monday]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

When your $ and share exchange plummets when Biden wins - and he will - you may regret installing a left based politician.

 

I can't say I'm a big fan of trump, but the other lot are so far the other way that it will be just as bad.

 

There's no middle ground in the USA - maybe that's the issue

 

Six in ten Americans don't have $500 dollars to scrape together let alone stocks or retirement funds.

[bunnydrops]

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

That's a possibility.

 

It's also possible that if she hadn't insulted a significant % of the electorate by preaching to the converted with her "basket of deplorables" speech then more people would have voted for her.

I was not really talking about that election. I was was only agreeing with the comment that some people don't vote because the media and pollsters make it seem that "their guy" is for sure going to win and it won't make a difference.

[ThailandRyan]

52 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 But your fine with slowing the post and limiting polling stations in Democrat supporting counties?!

So again as always with anyone's posts you want to put words into my mouth that I did not write or spew, much to your chagrin, so instead you had to insinuate what I wrote was what you wanted it to mean.  Good on you man to be a mind reader and telepathic one at that.  My comment is for all voters and about how the MSM skews the voting no matter who is running.  At the end of the day even the money raised is touted as a sure win over the one without the most money, another bunch of BS.  Elections should be fair and free of any political gerrymandering.

 

In my view everyone running for an office should only be given two print adds to be placed in the printed media, two television spots, two radio announcements, and then the same for the internet.  None of the adds can be used to mudsling or discuss the other opponents.  Instead the Adds should only be about who you are, what you think you can accomplish in the position and how you will work at doing the job, in a positive way.  Not the current BS politcal grandstanding, bullying, hatefull divisiveness and such.  But then that is just my view.  I hate the current state of affairs and politics as it does not and has not fixed much of any of the problems.  So again tell me how my words say anything about the ballot process in the mailing of ballots in any supporting counties, be they Democratic, Republican, Green, Independent, Constitutional party, Working families Party, Liberterian, or Reform party amongst all of them.  

[Credo]

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So again as always with anyone's posts you want to put words into my mouth that I did not write or spew, much to your chagrin, so instead you had to insinuate what I wrote was what you wanted it to mean.  Good on you man to be a mind reader and telepathic one at that.  My comment is for all voters and about how the MSM skews the voting no matter who is running.  At the end of the day even the money raised is touted as a sure win over the one without the most money, another bunch of BS.  Elections should be fair and free of any political gerrymandering.

 

In my view everyone running for an office should only be given two print adds to be placed in the printed media, two television spots, two radio announcements, and then the same for the internet.  None of the adds can be used to mudsling or discuss the other opponents.  Instead the Adds should only be about who you are, what you think you can accomplish in the position and how you will work at doing the job, in a positive way.  Not the current BS politcal grandstanding, bullying, hatefull divisiveness and such.  But then that is just my view.  I hate the current state of affairs and politics as it does not and has not fixed much of any of the problems.  So again tell me how my words say anything about the ballot process in the mailing of ballots in any supporting counties, be they Democratic, Republican, Green, Independent, Constitutional party, Working families Party, Liberterian, or Reform party amongst all of them.  

So are you suggesting that limiting a candidates freedom of speech is OK?   Wouldn't that give an incumbent an advantage, since the press tends to follow someone who is in office and less so if someone is simply running for an office.

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by Credo

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

I was not really talking about that election. I was was only agreeing with the comment that some people don't vote because the media and pollsters make it seem that "their guy" is for sure going to win and it won't make a difference.

 

Yeah I'd agree with that. But it works both ways, I think that motivation to vote is lower if you're convinced that your guy is going to win OR lose irrespective of your vote.

 

In this particular case, the media is basically saying to the Democrat voters in Texas "look, your guy actually has a chance after all, he's not definitely going to lose so make sure you vote". 

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So again as always with anyone's posts you want to put words into my mouth that I did not write or spew, much to your chagrin, so instead you had to insinuate what I wrote was what you wanted it to mean.  Good on you man to be a mind reader and telepathic one at that.  My comment is for all voters and about how the MSM skews the voting no matter who is running.  At the end of the day even the money raised is touted as a sure win over the one without the most money, another bunch of BS.  Elections should be fair and free of any political gerrymandering.

 

In my view everyone running for an office should only be given two print adds to be placed in the printed media, two television spots, two radio announcements, and then the same for the internet.  None of the adds can be used to mudsling or discuss the other opponents.  Instead the Adds should only be about who you are, what you think you can accomplish in the position and how you will work at doing the job, in a positive way.  Not the current BS politcal grandstanding, bullying, hatefull divisiveness and such.  But then that is just my view.  I hate the current state of affairs and politics as it does not and has not fixed much of any of the problems.  So again tell me how my words say anything about the ballot process in the mailing of ballots in any supporting counties, be they Democratic, Republican, Green, Independent, Constitutional party, Working families Party, Liberterian, or Reform party amongst all of them.  

Not a fan of the First Amendment then?!

 

If on the other hand you want to see ‘Citizens United’ repealed, I’m with you.

 

 

[Tippaporn]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

That's how you turn a state from red to blue.  You institute such horrible policies in blue states which then drive even liberals out.  Those liberals migrate to red states which are run much better and are therefore attractive  But the liberals end up bringing all their bad policies with them and destroy the red state.  Don't believe me?  Look at Colorado.  Just talked to a friend of mine over the weekend whose been living in Colorado for almost 40 years and he's described how badly the state has changed.

This is becoming a real issue in many states...people fleeing the high taxes, government incompetence, and social engineering in California but bringing the politics that caused all these problems to their new states. 

Read more comments to articles about the exodus from California than I can count.  Almost to a man people are commenting that they don't want them in their state.  I can't blame them.

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10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Read more comments to articles about the exodus from California than I can count.  Almost to a man people are commenting that they don't want them in their state.  I can't blame them.

You have no way of knowing that. Stop making things up.

[ThailandRyan]

35 minutes ago, Credo said:

So are you suggesting that limiting a candidates freedom of speech is OK?   Wouldn't that give an incumbent an advantage, since the press tends to follow someone who is in office and less so if someone is simply running for an office.

 

It would be for all candidates, incumbent as well as those running, and the press needs to stay out of promoting one candidate over another and stop the rhetoric they bring about a candidates record.  The press should list equally, the attributes of all candidates and not mudsling as well.  There is no fair and balanced reporting anymore, it is all about sensationalism and selling papers, air time and making money.  My view on this is that it ensures a level playing ground where someone of lesser money is not disenfranchised and has the same amount of airtime as another.  Boohoo, to those that think it would violate the freedom of speech.  In essence for you it is your freedom of speech to call another candidate a witch, or a skunk, or a cheat, or many other names, as well as trying to make up stories which disenfranchise others.  All voters should be able to vote based without being bullied by the media and have there vote counted not just because of fear or favor of one candidate over another.  A level playing field is needed for a reset of all political parties.

Edited October 29, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[ThailandRyan]

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not a fan of the First Amendment then?!

Nice wind-up, go back to your keyboard and coffee, and enjoy your day knowing that you are an equal opportunity disenfranchiser.

[Jeffr2]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

When your $ and share exchange plummets when Biden wins - and he will - you may regret installing a left based politician.

 

I can't say I'm a big fan of trump, but the other lot are so far the other way that it will be just as bad.

 

There's no middle ground in the USA - maybe that's the issue

 

Not according to the experts on Wall Street.  Maybe you need to change your source for news.  A unified government would be able to get things done.  Especially with out Mitch blocking everything in the senate.

[Jeffr2]

17 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Read more comments to articles about the exodus from California than I can count.  Almost to a man people are commenting that they don't want them in their state.  I can't blame them.

California is a very liberal state.  And a great one.  I'm sure they don't want racist, QAnon conservatives there.  Kinda makes sense.

[Tippaporn]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

13 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Read more comments to articles about the exodus from California than I can count.  Almost to a man people are commenting that they don't want them in their state.  I can't blame them.

You have no way of knowing that. Stop making things up.

I'm reporting on comments I've read and the sentiments of those comments.  I'm making that up?  And who are you to tell me I have no way of knowing anything?  Quit trolling.

[stevenl]

35 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah I'd agree with that. But it works both ways, I think that motivation to vote is lower if you're convinced that your guy is going to win OR lose irrespective of your vote.

 

In this particular case, the media is basically saying to the Democrat voters in Texas "look, your guy actually has a chance after all, he's not definitely going to lose so make sure you vote". 

Media is not saying anything. Media are reporting on high early voting turnout, your interpretation is just that.

[Neeranam]

I think there are MANY Trump voters who don't tell anyone they are voting for him. This is because some of their selfish family and friends think only their opinion counts and anyone who disagrees with them is inferior and is ridiculed. This has caused polarization in the once great empire. Shame on you! 

Come election day, Trumps votes will overcome and there will another 4 years of making America great again. 

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

Six in ten Americans don't have $500 dollars to scrape together let alone stocks or retirement funds.

No way, I don't believe that.

[Jeffr2]

Just now, Neeranam said:

I think there are MANY Trump voters who don't tell anyone they are voting for him. This is because some of their selfish family and friends think only their opinion counts and anyone who disagrees with them is inferior and is ridiculed. This has caused polarization in the once great empire. Shame on you! 

Come election day, Trumps votes will overcome and there will another 4 years of making America great again. 

What?  That's some bizarre reasoning!  Sadly, typical from Trump supporters.  Deflect from reality and blame others.

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

No way, I don't believe that.

It's true:

 

https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/12/pf/americans-lack-of-savings/index.html

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

What?  That's some bizarre reasoning!  Sadly, typical from Trump supporters.  Deflect from reality and blame others.

I am not a Trump supporter, not even from US. Just stating the facts -  it's much easier to see from outside. 

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I am not a Trump supporter, not even from US. Just stating the facts -  it's much easier to see from outside. 

I'm from the US but haven't been there in ages.  And from what I can see, that's a good thing.  Trump has divided the country terribly.  He's not a leader, he's a real estate con man and reality TV show star.  These don't make good leaders for a nation.

 

But it's true, most Trump supporters can't handle their idol being bashed.  So they deflect and blame others, just like Trump does.

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17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I am not a Trump supporter, not even from US. Just stating the facts -  it's much easier to see from outside. 

Another "I don't support Trump but,,," zMaybe if you non-supporters of Trump criticized him on occasion your alleged objectivity might be believable.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I can't say I'm a big fan of trump, but the other lot are so far the other way that it will be just as bad.

 

There's no middle ground in the USA - maybe that's the issue

 

Biden and his policies overall ARE the middle ground of American politics... It's only Trump scare tactics propaganda and right-wing extremists who would have anyone believe otherwise.

 

If Trump were running against Dwight Eisenhower, he and his minions would be calling Eisenhower a radical left-wing extremist.

 

PS... BTW, is this the new mantra for Republicans and conservatives these days?....

 

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I can't say I'm a big fan of trump, but...

 

Kinda like trying to excuse the un-excusable.

 

 

Edited October 29, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

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1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm reporting on comments I've read and the sentiments of those comments.  I'm making that up?  And who are you to tell me I have no way of knowing anything?  Quit trolling.

And there I was thinking that your allegations weren't ' based on sound data gathering techniques. Boy howdy do I feel foolish. 

 

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm reporting on comments I've read and the sentiments of those comments.  I'm making that up?  And who are you to tell me I have no way of knowing anything?  Quit trolling.

I feel so bad about saying this but you're still making things up. I never said you have no way of knowing things. Here's one way: subscribe to the New York Times.

Edited October 29, 2020 by placeholder

[JonnyF]

34 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Media is not saying anything. Media are reporting on high early voting turnout, your interpretation is just that.

 

I stand corrected. The MSM are completely unbiased and never try to influence, only to report. This early turnout was unquestionably 'staggering' and I'm very thankful that they informed me of the fact that this definitely boosts Biden's hopes for a win. Thanks for setting me straight on that ????.

[Berkshire]

32 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I am not a Trump supporter, not even from US. Just stating the facts -  it's much easier to see from outside. 

"Just stating the facts"....???  Please.  The facts are out there for those willing to embrace them.  But you won't get any "facts" from Trump himself.  He's spending these last days before the election lying his as* off.  Not surprising, but rather astonishing level of dishonesty. 

 

[Trump Stirs Rallies by Tarring Biden With Views That Aren’t His]

[President Donald Trump accuses Joe Biden of wanting to end all private health insurance, quadruple taxes, and quickly impose sweeping lockdowns due to fear of the coronavirus.

The Democratic nominee, in fact, stands for none of that.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-stirs-rallies-by-tarring-biden-with-views-that-aren-t-his/ar-BB1atWCP

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The best that can be done is scarring them off by open Constitutional carrying and triggering them by planting American flags on front lawns 

 

Apparently you've forgotten, or chosen to ignore, the reality that pretty much every one in America comes from immigrant origins... except for the American Indians...

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49 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I think there are MANY Trump voters who don't tell anyone they are voting for him. This is because some of their selfish family and friends think only their opinion counts and anyone who disagrees with them is inferior and is ridiculed. This has caused polarization in the once great empire. Shame on you! 

Come election day, Trumps votes will overcome and there will another 4 years of making America great again. 

Spokeb like a true objective observer.

[Pattaya Spotter]

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

except for the American Indians

I guess they just sprung-up from the ground of the American prairies...and their Asiatic features are just coincidence ????????????

Edited October 29, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter