Attack at protest in Jomtien: "Ken" charged with assault after headbutting critical Russian

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

What makes you think it's illegal for foreigners to attend political gatherings in Thailand?  I'd love to see this law.

Good point, in all my years here, I've never known a foreigner to be prosecuted for this. The kids in Hong Kong are helping the Thai youth in their fight for democracy. 

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

What makes you think it's illegal for foreigners to attend political gatherings in Thailand?  I'd love to see this law.

I am betting getting involved would soon make you a persona non grata here.

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Good point, in all my years here, I've never known a foreigner to be prosecuted for this. The kids in Hong Kong are helping the Thai youth in their fight for democracy. 

I'm pretty sure there is no such law.  There were plenty of foreigners participating on both sides in 2010 and during other red/yellow protests.  Not to be recommended, but principled and brave.

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, jacko45k said:

I am betting getting involved would soon make you a persona non grata here.

I guess it depends on which side!

[scubascuba3]

29 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Strange, nothing in the Thai press about this. 

It's all over social media, have a look

[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

The trouble making Russian was an idiot for sticking his nose in, especially with his daughter there with him. Idiotic. He had plenty of opportunity to walk away.
The Thai was challenged and responded, good to see the other Thais didn’t jump in but instead stopper it going further. 

 

I liked how Ken asked the farang “why do you live in Thailand?” 
An overweight farang, in Pattaya, with a half Thai kid. What did he think he is doing living in Thailand? 
 

Unfortunately for Ken he was protesting against Prayut, so will be punished. If he was protesting for Prayut it would probably be different.

It is none of Ken's business why somebody lives here. He was very aggressive and is now getting penalized for it. 

[cyril sneer]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

had called protesters the "dregs of society"

sums up all protesters really

[scubascuba3]

Let's see what sentence he gets, should be set an example of

[Emdog]

Not in the Thai press? Does TV count? I was going to tell my Thai wife about it, but she already knew. She doesn't read English language press or watch English language TV. Or any other language other than Thai, for that matter.

[Natai Beach]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

I mean the Thai language press.

https://www.dailynews.co.th/crime/805930

 

 

https://web.facebook.com/thairath/videos/แจงดราม่า-แกนนำม็อบพัทยา-เฮดบัตต์-โขกหัวฝรั่งรัสเซียเลือดไหล-เด็กร้องไห้ลั่น/410309373678512/?_rdc=1&_rdr

 

etc etc.

The comments section is more fun to read than here. Some choice words used to describe the lovely pro Prayut Russian from Pattaya.

 

[Rimmer]

A libelous post and other troll stuff removed

[Ireland32]

3 hours ago, champers said:

Police watched the attack and the build up to it but did not intervene to diffuse the situation. Shame on them.

Jomtien are Worthless 

[Seismic]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

No it isn't. It is illegal for foreigners. 

No, it is not illegal.

[MiKT]

27 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I'm pretty sure there is no such law.  There were plenty of foreigners participating on both sides in 2010 and during other red/yellow protests.  Not to be recommended, but principled and brave.

it is illegal (and extremely barmy)  for foreigners to get involved with Thai protests; and some of those who were identified back in 2010 were quietly advised not to come back...........or else.

 

Read the advise from your embassy if you want to know how to behave during protests in Thailand. ie STAY AT HOME - much the same for any country.

 

What makes me really sick is stupid idiots blaming Pattaya again or blaming Redshirts again. Pattaya is a place, it does not move about or stagger around drunk touching-up and abusing Thai women and wondering why they got beat-up. Its the people who come here that cause the trouble. Like the many very, very unpopular Russians who only too frequently cause problems here.

 

The Redshirts did not initiate the violence in 2010 but only too many were were murdered on the orders of the very same politician who later arranged for  the the army  (who admitted colluding with Yellow shirts) to illegibly depose the legitimate, democratically elected government.  So no doubt any Thai (especially one identified as an ex Redshirt) participating in a protest in this day and age is really on a knife edge and strung out because they know that they are taking terrible risks to their life and liberty and do not need a big mouth Russian expressing his pathetic views in front of his 1/2 Thai daughter; who is clinging on because she knows that he is only an 1/4 inch (6.5 mm) from getting shot and is bravely trying to protect the stupid fool. 

 

I don't condone the violence, but even anybody who has half a brain (even your average Pattaya Russian visitor

) could anticipate it; especially someone who apparently thinks he knows enough to express his stupid views to a Thai protestor.

 

This is Thailand and its no good pontificating about how people should behave in a civilized manner in the middle of a protest that is more likely to see them dragged off to jail than anything else (I suppose we could look to Russia or the US for good examples, 5,5,5). 

 

No doubt the Russian is nursing a sore nose, but I wonder how many of the protesters are free right now, and can look forward to staying that way for long?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Seismic]

3 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

it is illegal for farangs to attend political gathers in Thailand. 

 

No, it is not illegal. There is no law against attending a political gathering, as long as the gathering itself is legal.

[Seismic]

2 minutes ago, MiKT said:

it is illegal (and extremely barmy)  for foreigners to get involved with Thai protests

 

I do not know where you are getting this nonsense from but it is not illegal for any foreigners to attend a political gathering or protest. There is no law that forbids this in the kingdom. As long as the political gathering or protest is legal then it is not a problem. It is only when people engage in illegal activities (and attendance, once again, is not one of them) that charges may be brought.

[Boomer6969]

3 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

Unfortunately for Ken he was protesting against Prayut, so will be punished. If he was protesting for Prayut it would probably be different.

He will be punished because he behaved like a rabid soi dog. 

 

But, sadly, the bail was set to a token amount of 10000 Bahts while one or two hundred thousand would have been more suitable for this kind of savage attack.

[Natai Beach]

1 minute ago, Boomer6969 said:

He will be punished because he behaved like a rabid soi dog. 

 

But, sadly, the bail was set to a token amount of 10000 Bahts while one or two hundred thousand would have been more suitable for this kind of savage attack.

He did invite the thai guy to have a go. $10,000AUD is a bit over the top. 

Rule 13a for foreigner living in Thailand: If you want to go and slag off and wind up democracy protesters who are p1ssed off after 6 years of no democracy at a democracy rally either make sure you can fight, wear a helmet or be a good runner. 

 

The Russian was looking for trouble and he found it. 
Kenny explains it all  in this video. 
 

 

 

 

[Neeranam]

7 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

more suitable for this kind of savage attack.

It was only a head butt, a daily occurrence in the pubs where I come from. 

[BigStar]

4 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

Actually after watching the video it is horrible for the young girl. 

All of that part is so sad. He should have loved her as much as she obviously loves him--and left.

[mark131v]

4 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

The trouble making Russian was an idiot for sticking his nose in, especially with his daughter there with him. Idiotic. He had plenty of opportunity to walk away.
The Thai was challenged and responded, good to see the other Thais didn’t jump in but instead stopper it going further. 

 

I liked how Ken asked the farang “why do you live in Thailand?” 
An overweight farang, in Pattaya, with a half Thai kid. What did he think he is doing living in Thailand? 
 

Unfortunately for Ken he was protesting against Prayut, so will be punished. If he was protesting for Prayut it would probably be different.

 

How do you know he is a trouble making Russian?

 

Are you psychic?

 

Where you there?

 

'Good to see other Thai's didn't jump in' what sort of <deleted> observation is that? seems to me you think that is to be applauded where most places in the world that's to be expected

 

'Unfortunately for Ken he was protesting against Prayut, so will be punished' I absolutely despise the junta but that in no way allows this cretin to assault another person, he's a disgrace

 

What we know as a fact is the Thai completely lost it and viciously assaulted a man accompanied by his 10 year old daughter, not uncommon many Thai men are very thin skinned and immature in their behaviour

 

What else do we know?  well I think we can see you may well be a bit of an apologist as you are willing to take the Thai side without any input from the Russian gent who was assaulted, not unusual loads of Thair than Thai on TV...

[Seismic]

24 minutes ago, Natai Beach said:

The Russian was looking for trouble and he found it. 
Kenny explains it all  in this video. 

Of course we all know that Thai's would never make any claims that were not true................................????

[JonnyF]

Both idiots. The Russian was obviously trying to be a smartazz and the Thai hothead couldn't control himself. Ken needs to learn that debate and disagreement are part of the Democracy that he claims to crave. The way he acted was no better than the Army using violence against the protestors.

 

It's very bad press for the protest movement. The other side will be using this to portray them as thugs, uneducated, uncivilized etc. which is a shame as they have a worthy cause.

 

In fairness to the Russian he did take that shot pretty well though ????. 

[nomad2019]

Rule number one foreigners should stay away from Thai politics especially when there's young children with you the Russian retard ????????????   open his big fat mouth   ????????????      in front of his young daughter to a legit protester who was talking about Thailand issues ,    nothing to do with foreign  politics. ❌❌❌

 

stay well clear from Thailand political situation let Thailand people run their own country ????????????

[DaLa]

1 hour ago, MiKT said:

it is illegal (and extremely barmy)  for foreigners to get involved with Thai protests; and some of those who were identified back in 2010 were quietly advised not to come back...........or else.

 

Read the advise from your embassy if you want to know how to behave during protests in Thailand. ie STAY AT HOME - much the same for any country.

 

What makes me really sick is stupid idiots blaming Pattaya again or blaming Redshirts again. Pattaya is a place, it does not move about or stagger around drunk touching-up and abusing Thai women and wondering why they got beat-up. Its the people who come here that cause the trouble. Like the many very, very unpopular Russians who only too frequently cause problems here.

 

The Redshirts did not initiate the violence in 2010 but only too many were were murdered on the orders of the very same politician who later arranged for  the the army  (who admitted colluding with Yellow shirts) to illegibly depose the legitimate, democratically elected government.  So no doubt any Thai (especially one identified as an ex Redshirt) participating in a protest in this day and age is really on a knife edge and strung out because they know that they are taking terrible risks to their life and liberty and do not need a big mouth Russian expressing his pathetic views in front of his 1/2 Thai daughter; who is clinging on because she knows that he is only an 1/4 inch (6.5 mm) from getting shot and is bravely trying to protect the stupid fool. 

 

I don't condone the violence, but even anybody who has half a brain (even your average Pattaya Russian visitor

) could anticipate it; especially someone who apparently thinks he knows enough to express his stupid views to a Thai protestor.

 

This is Thailand and its no good pontificating about how people should behave in a civilized manner in the middle of a protest that is more likely to see them dragged off to jail than anything else (I suppose we could look to Russia or the US for good examples, 5,5,5). 

 

No doubt the Russian is nursing a sore nose, but I wonder how many of the protesters are free right now, and can look forward to staying that way for long?

In a civilised society people should be able to challenge someone else's viewpoint. I know that's expecting too much, but I can always live in hope. But I won't hold my breath on it happening, same as I look forward one day to a truly 'peaceful' demonstration.

 

I don't have a great deal of respect for people that want to grab a megaphone and shout at the world whilst standing in the middle of the road...'peacefully'.

 

It's only a short hop to total anarchy. If I am  expected  to listen to someone (or a groups) grievances then I would expect them to listen to my counter without resorting to violence.

[FritsSikkink]

59 minutes ago, Natai Beach said:

He did invite the thai guy to have a go. $10,000AUD is a bit over the top. 

Rule 13a for foreigner living in Thailand: If you want to go and slag off and wind up democracy protesters who are p1ssed off after 6 years of no democracy at a democracy rally either make sure you can fight, wear a helmet or be a good runner. 

 

The Russian was looking for trouble and he found it. 
Kenny explains it all  in this video. 
 

 

 

 

He can explain whatever he wants, he attacked and that was wrong. You finding it all Ok and talking bad things about the victim doesn't help.

[BangkokReady]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

the protesters marched on the police station to get Ken released

"Give us democracy!"

 

"Give us freedom of expression!"

 

"Give us human rights!"

 

"No member of the elite should be beyond criticism!"

 

"Release this man without charge, even though he violently assaulted another human being!"

 

Kind of makes you question their moral values and whether they actually mean anything they say about human rights or freedom, or if they don't give two <deleted>s about it but think it will get them what they want.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Pattaya police have charged protest leader Narathiwat "Ken" Khamma with assault after he headbutted a 52 year old Russian man in Jomtien on Sunday night.

Good, a peaceful protest is one thing, once you start dragging it down to this level you lose all credibility..

Better to tell Ken stay at home in the future your services are no longer required.

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, fruitman said:

Imagine if the Russian had headbutted the Thai....would he also be out on jail for 10.000 baht? I bet not.

He would have been beaten badly by ken's compadres.

[nahkit]

3 hours ago, MiKT said:

Read the advise from your embassy if you want to know how to behave during protests in Thailand. ie STAY AT HOME - much the same for any country.

Yes, that is the advice that the British embassy hands out but I somehow think that they had something more serious in mind than half-a-dozen people sitting on a straw mat.