Trump campaign shifts strategy as recount, lawsuit efforts founder

[riclag]

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

So confident that they have to fire anyone who exposes their fake claims?

Let it play out through the courts!  The truth will prevail!

That's how many things get solved when two opposing forces have disputes imop

 

 

 

[Eric Loh]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Let it play out through the courts!  The truth will prevail!

That's how many things get solved when two opposing forces have disputes imop

 

 

 

Please name the lawsuits still with the courts for clarity sake or you be called out for spreading misinformation. Thank you. 

[sscc]

The count pointed to Biden winning 306 electorals for ten days already.

  

Also predictably over ten days for President Trump

//  Friends becomes former friends

// GOP Republicans are to split and run.

// Incumbent President days are numbered.

// The Fox news are speaking another tone.

// Judges ask questions like  " Why you leave me this mess ? "

[bunnydrops]

22 minutes ago, riclag said:

I don't know what appeals that the greatest task force of lawyers has in store for the world! Just a guess imop they expected that!

I am sure they did. Just like a defense lawyer defending someone when he knows the other side has all the proof  He is just doing what he is paid to do.

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It may not, but Trump owes it to the more than 70 MILLION people that voted for him to do everything he can to win.

Gore certainly didn't concede before he had to.

45 lost. Badly. His is now the worst defeat of a Repub incumbent ever.

 

He owes it to his voters as well as the country to accept reality, stop his lying and made-up conspiracy drivel, and move on.

[Somtamnication]

Hope the new shift is towards Halloween makeup classes.

[henry2109]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Since when did Trump ever feel he owed anybody anything?

 

Well, even when he owed anything to anybody, he usually did not pay until a court ordered him.

 

What a sad little bunch of disgusting boys they are, Donald and Rudy.

[TooBigToFit]

15 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

Hope the new shift is towards Halloween makeup classes.

I wouldn't want to be following this man or Trump, but many Republicans think they are role models for themselves. They want more people like this is power positions running the world. They sure make America look great, don't they. #patheticwarpedgreedyclownbrigade

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

I don't know what appeals that the greatest task force of lawyers has in store for the world! Just a guess imop they expected that!

Have you been following the news? The great lawyers have withdrawn from the cause. Now it's mostly second and third raters.

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Look forward to 4 years of the same sort of attacks on Biden as Trump suffered. The Dems and CNN opened the door to it, IMO, and the GOP will relish payback for every misstep that Biden makes, IMO.

The " political space" is not a vacuum

 The people of the United States may not appreciate or reward that. If the Republican Party can shake itself loose from the dark clown show which is currently making the running they may consider that.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The NY Times today called Trump's state Legislatures strategy just what it is -- a "ploy to subvert the election" and "unparalleled in U.S. History."

 

I call it attempted voter nullification and a brazen effort to subvert the U.S. democratic system. It's shockingly dangerous.  If it isn't criminal, it should be.

 

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Trump Targets Michigan in His Ploy to Subvert the Election

In a brazen step, the president invited Republican state leaders in Michigan to the White House as he and his allies try to prevent the state from certifying Joe Biden’s clear victory there.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/us/politics/trump-michigan-election.html

 

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Trump’s Attempts to Overturn the Election Are Unparalleled in U.S. History

The president’s push to prevent states from certifying electors and get legislators to override voters’ will eclipses even the bitter 1876 election as an audacious use of brute political force.
...

“But this is far worse,” said Michael Beschloss, the presidential historian and author of “Presidents of War.”... In this case, no serious person thinks enough votes are in dispute that Donald Trump could have been elected on Election Day.”
 

“This is a manufactured crisis. It is a president abusing his huge powers in order to stay in office after the voters clearly rejected him for re-election.”He added: “This is what many of the founders dreaded.”

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/us/politics/trump-election.html

Edited November 20, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Bluespunk]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

They elected Donald Trump. They didn't elect Joe Biden," Giuliani said.

Nope. 

[xylophone]

It's all over bar the shouting, and all of that is coming from trump's side......

 

US election: Joe Biden wins Georgia after controversial vote recount

US President-elect Joe Biden has won Georgia and its 16 electoral votes, an extraordinary victory for Democrats who pushed to expand their electoral map through the Sun Belt.

The win by Biden pads his Electoral College margin of victory over President Donald Trump. Biden now has 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-joe-biden-wins-georgia-after-controversial-vote-recount/MD45VMQWPKMQ6OPTROZBLJITQM/ 

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It may not, but Trump owes it to the more than 70 MILLION people that voted for him to do everything he can to win.

Gore certainly didn't concede before he had to.

He lost, get over it.

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Another way

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election

In the United States, a contingent election is the procedure used to elect the president or vice president in the event that no candidate for one or both of these offices wins an absolute majority of votes in the Electoral College. A presidential contingent election is decided by a special vote of the United States House of Representatives, while a vice-presidential contingent election is decided by a vote of the United States Senate. During a contingent election in the House, each state's delegation casts one en bloc vote to determine the president, rather than a vote from each representative. Senators, on the other hand, cast votes individually for vice president.

 

In the real world 306-232 is what's called an absolute majority.

 

It's over.

 

 

[Berkshire]

31 minutes ago, placeholder said:

1 hour ago, riclag said:

I don't know what appeals that the greatest task force of lawyers has in store for the world! Just a guess imop they expected that!

Have you been following the news? The great lawyers have withdrawn from the cause. Now it's mostly second and third raters.

Yes, there are 2nd rate lawyers, 3rd rate lawyers, and beneath that there's a thick layer of muck.  Once you get past the muck, you get to Rudy....555555

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Let it play out ! If things work out as whats been reported at the press conference , the truth will prevail!  Mr. Trump and his elite task force of lawyers ,sound dangerously confident!

 

 

 

I think rudy and his gaggle of whackadoodles missed an opportunity. They used Hugo Chavez when they should have used Cesar Chavez.

 

See, Cesar was the champion of migrant farm workers, and rudy could have argued 45 voters were forced to use lettuce for ballots, and then George Soros sent rabbits to every polling station in the US to eat the ballots.

 

Such a tale would have been equally believable, but more interesting, perhaps pulling in the vegan demographic.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Let it play out through the courts!  The truth will prevail!

That's how many things get solved when two opposing forces have disputes imop

 

 

 

So on the highly improbable chance that Trump loses all the lawsuits, you willa accept the fact that the truth prevailed and he legitimately lost and you won't be endorsing any allegations to the contrary?

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Yes, there are 2nd rate lawyers, 3rd rate lawyers, and beneath that there's a thick layer of muck.  Once you get past the muck, you get to Rudy....555555

That muck couldn't even do a relatively easy task of a Joe Pesci impersonation. 

[Bluespunk]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Giuliani's agitated performance, featuring rivulets of hair dye running down his face

Whether it’s hair dye or pushing trump lies, it just doesn’t survive once the heat is turned up. 

Edited November 20, 2020 by Bluespunk

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, Somtamnication said:

Hope the new shift is towards Halloween makeup classes.

At least he's now got the look to go with the 'total lunatic' image he seems to be perpetrating.

[phetphet]

I wonder if he is fighting this so much because he is scared what might happen once he loses any immunity from legal actions.

[thaichina]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

Let it play out ! If things work out as whats been reported at the press conference , the truth will prevail!  Mr. Trump and his elite task force of lawyers ,sound dangerously confident!

 

 

thank you sir! You made my day! Trump and his elite task force of lawyers  ????????

[placeholder]

16 minutes ago, phetphet said:

I wonder if he is fighting this so much because he is scared I'what might happen once he loses any immunity from legal actions.

That's what I've assumed all along. 

[animalmagic]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It may not, but Trump owes it to the more than 70 MILLION people that voted for him to do everything he can to win.

Gore certainly didn't concede before he had to.

It's better to do everything to you can to win BEFORE the election.

[Berkshire]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It may not, but Trump owes it to the more than 70 MILLION people that voted for him to do everything he can to win.

Gore certainly didn't concede before he had to.

I'll see your 70 MILLION Trump votes and raise you 80 MILLION Biden votes.  Time to fold!

[Phoenix Rising]

5 hours ago, riclag said:

Let it play out ! If things work out as whats been reported at the press conference , the truth will prevail!  Mr. Trump and his elite task force of lawyers ,sound dangerously confident!

 

 

Here, let me fix that for you: trump and his elite task force of lawyers sound dangerously confident deranged!

[Phoenix Rising]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Look forward to 4 years of the same sort of attacks on Biden as Trump suffered. The Dems and CNN opened the door to it, IMO, and the GOP will relish payback for every misstep that Biden makes, IMO.

If Biden starts mocking war heroes, fallen soldiers, handicapped, starts cozying up to dictators, admits he likes to grab women's p*****s without consent, etc, etc, ect, etc ,ect ,etc, I'm sure they will.

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, phetphet said:

I wonder if he is fighting this so much because he is scared what might happen once he loses any immunity from legal actions.

Like this.

 

https://www.9news.com.au/world/us-news-new-york-attorney-general-probes-trump-consulting-payments-that-reduced-his-taxes/790b94a9-ba9e-4b90-b296-3d115aafdd4a

[soalbundy]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It may not, but Trump owes it to the more than 70 MILLION people that voted for him to do everything he can to win.

Gore certainly didn't concede before he had to.

but he hasn't won, he lost and he owes it to the country to concede. He's like the bubonic plague, when he finally goes people will be filling the churches giving thanks.