Brexit talks still stuck because EU is asking too much, UK says

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

my point exactly, you can't reach sovereignty, it's a pipe dream, and true Brexit is your pipedream

 

  We wanted to take back control of out borders and be independent from the E.U .

That isnt a "pipedream" , its the reality 

[Phulublub]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  We wanted to take back control of out borders and be independent from the E.U .

That isnt a "pipedream" , its the reality 

As is the further fall in the Pound today as the prospect of No Deal becomes more likely

 

Cost of Living rises baked in.  But you knew what you were voting for.

 

PH

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

As is the further fall in the Pound today as the prospect of No Deal becomes more likely

 

Cost of Living rises baked in.  But you knew what you were voting for.

 

PH

 

  The Pound is at the same level as it was back in March .

But you would love it wouldnt you, if the Pound plunged and foods costs rose and Brits suffered .

British people have sacrificed their lives for freedom , a few hardships wont bother us .

We may soar in the future , whilst you will still be bailing out Greece and Poland 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  The Pound is at the same level as it was back in March .

But you would love it wouldnt you, if the Pound plunged and foods costs rose and Brits suffered .

British people have sacrificed their lives for freedom , a few hardships wont bother us .

We may soar in the future , whilst you will still be bailing out Greece and Poland 

Alternatively the UK might be back begging at the IMF.

 

Leaving the UK’s largest trading partnership without a deal in the midst the worst recession for 300 years is not a smart move.

 

https://wap.business-standard.com/article/international/uk will-suffer-its-deepest-recession-in-more-than-300-years-rishi-sunak-120112600083_1.html

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Alternatively the UK might be back begging at the IMF.

 

Leaving the UK’s largest trading partnership without a deal in the midst the worst recession for 300 years is not a smart move.

 

https://wap.business-standard.com/article/international/uk will-suffer-its-deepest-recession-in-more-than-300-years-rishi-sunak-120112600083_1.html

 

  Yes, you can live in hope , who knows what will happen in the future .

You can live in hope that the UK gets the most severe punishment and Brits suffer horrendously  because we left you .

  That can make you feel better and see it as some sort of revenge 

[Phulublub]

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Yes, you can live in hope , who knows what will happen in the future .

You can live in hope that the UK gets the most severe punishment and Brits suffer horrendously  because we left you .

  That can make you feel better and see it as some sort of revenge 

Why so bitter? 

 

I prefer to look at facts.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1371155/Pound-euro-exchange-rate-GBP-sterling-holidays-travel-money-brexit-deal-news-latest

 

In the Express so must be true.

 

The Pound was actually at a better rate for a small time in March.  But not much:

 

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=EUR&view=1Y

 

The rest of the graph doesn't look so good.

 

PH

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Yes, you can live in hope , who knows what will happen in the future .

You can live in hope that the UK gets the most severe punishment and Brits suffer horrendously  because we left you .

  That can make you feel better and see it as some sort of revenge 

It’s not me who is living in hope.

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, Phulublub said:

As is the further fall in the Pound today as the prospect of No Deal becomes more likely

 

Cost of Living rises baked in.  But you knew what you were voting for.

 

PH

Still happy to accept anything which comes with No Deal, especially the freedom from the EU. 

Exchange rate problems - go back to UK where a pound is still a pound.

Cost of living increases - probably not much, but if you have a problem cut back on the EU products after you arrive.

[bannork]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

Still happy to accept anything which comes with No Deal, especially the freedom from the EU. 

Exchange rate problems - go back to UK where a pound is still a pound.

Cost of living increases - probably not much, but if you have a problem cut back on the EU products after you arrive.

The pound will buy less of any imports, food and medical products for example, hitting the poorest hardest.

[Phulublub]

34 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

Exchange rate problems - go back to UK where a pound is still a pound.

 

Same lie that Harold Wilson told about "the pound in your pocket".  Pathetic

 

31 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

No, you're living in Thailand and not even British so unlikely to benefit from our freedom anyway.

Nice of you to confirm you anti-Britishness again though. I thought CC was only being very sarcastic, but your feelings shine through brilliantly.

What freedom?  I am British, but will undoubtedly "benefit" from unnecesary red tape and more expensive products.

 

Interesting, though, that while you want all your freedom, you appear to wish to deny freedom to express their views to anyone who is not British and living in Britain.  Xenophobe, or just a hypocrite?

 

PH

 

PH

[Phulublub]

42 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Still happy to accept anything which comes with No Deal, especially the freedom from the EU. 

So, if BJ accepts some restrictions in exchange for a trade deal (something Ministers have today been beriefing they are pulling out all thw stops to achieve), you will not have obtained what you voted for...I almost feel sorry for you.

 

PH

[Loiner]

42 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

Same lie that Harold Wilson told about "the pound in your pocket".  Pathetic

 

What freedom?  I am British, but will undoubtedly "benefit" from unnecesary red tape and more expensive products.

 

Interesting, though, that while you want all your freedom, you appear to wish to deny freedom to express their views to anyone who is not British and living in Britain.  Xenophobe, or just a hypocrite?

 

Same pound in the UK. Your Remainer argument reliance on exchange rate is the pathetic part.

 

You may be British, but you are not Chomper Higgot are you? Read the posts first.

 

You can express your views all you like, and are doing so. However, you cannot change the course of the referendum and Brexit. Didn't you forget to throw 'waycist' into your post to accompany xenophobe? Sticks and stones, plus I quite like the badge.

[Loiner]

45 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

So, if BJ accepts some restrictions in exchange for a trade deal (something Ministers have today been beriefing they are pulling out all thw stops to achieve), you will not have obtained what you voted for...I almost feel sorry for you.

 

PH

 

What I said was : happy to accept anything which comes with No Deal  because I prefer No Deal. 

 

So if BJ accepts anything in exchange for a trade deal, it would be a different question. What restrictions? We know three major ones which would not be acceptable - so do you know of any alternatives?

[CorpusChristie]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not me who is living in hope.

 

  You seem to have accepted living in despair 

[CorpusChristie]

1 hour ago, Phulublub said:

So, if BJ accepts some restrictions in exchange for a trade deal (something Ministers have today been beriefing they are pulling out all thw stops to achieve), you will not have obtained what you voted for...I almost feel sorry for you.

 

PH

 

   Either way, you will put a negative spin on things .

Whatever the outcome of the talks, we will have completely left the E.U.

If we have to make concessions for a beneficial trade deal , then so be it , it will have no effect on the man in the street and we wont even notice it 

[CharlieH]

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[sandyf]

11 hours ago, Loiner said:

 

What I said was : happy to accept anything which comes with No Deal  because I prefer No Deal. 

Time people woke up to the fact there is no such thing as "No Deal", it would be "no FTA" which means a bunch of mini deals.

 

[Loiner]

10 hours ago, sandyf said:

Time people woke up to the fact there is no such thing as "No Deal", it would be "no FTA" which means a bunch of mini deals.

 

Wake me up before you go go, and tell me how we see a bunch of mini deals and "Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed."

[GrandPapillon]

On 12/11/2020 at 5:53 AM, CorpusChristie said:

 

  We wanted to take back control of out borders and be independent from the E.U .

That isnt a "pipedream" , its the reality 

that's the very definition of a pipe dream,

 

taking back control of your frontier is mission impossible, look at all the refugees coming to your shores, they don't care about Brexit and they will keep coming, even without the EU

[CorpusChristie]

38 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

that's the very definition of a pipe dream,

 

taking back control of your frontier is mission impossible, look at all the refugees coming to your shores, they don't care about Brexit and they will keep coming, even without the EU

 

  The UK is a tolerant Country and we accept genuine refugees 

[Rookiescot]

On 12/10/2020 at 2:06 PM, Phoenix Rising said:

I'm not a Brit but I thought this was pretty interesting:

 

Brexit-backing billionaire will build his SUV in France, not the UK

 

"Britain's richest man and Brexit supporter Jim Ratcliffe has abandoned plans to build a new SUV in the United Kingdom, dealing another blow to a car industry that has already been battered by the country's exit from the European Union and the pandemic.

Ratcliffe is the founder of Ineos, a chemicals company, and has a fortune worth nearly $28 billion, according to Bloomberg's Billionaires Index. Ineos said in a statement on Tuesday that its first vehicle, the Grenadier 4x4, will be manufactured at a plant in Hambach, France, that the company is buying from Daimler's (DMLRY) Mercedes-Benz."

 

Same with Dyson.

Campaigned for Brexit then moved his company to Singapore. 

[nauseus]

10 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

that's the very definition of a pipe dream,

 

taking back control of your frontier is mission impossible, look at all the refugees coming to your shores, they don't care about Brexit and they will keep coming, even without the EU

 

Two different issues. 

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Same with Dyson.

Campaigned for Brexit then moved his company to Singapore. 

 

Misleading - you make it sound like the whole company has moved - Dyson has been favouring SE Asia for 20 years, mainly due to bigger and more receptive markets for Dyson products over there. He is a businessman and rather a successful one, you see? He campaigned for Brexit because he knows the UK will be better off out of the EU.

 

 

[transam]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Same with Dyson.

Campaigned for Brexit then moved his company to Singapore. 

Have you missed this, Singapore and Vietnam....?

 

 

 

[Surelynot]

We're saved..... Boris, the detail impresario, has taken personal charge of no deal preparations.....which begs the question.....what the hell has Gove been doing all this time?

[nauseus]

49 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

We're saved..... Boris, the detail impresario, has taken personal charge of no deal preparations.....which begs the question.....what the hell has Gove been doing all this time?

 

No it doesn't.

[bkk_bwana]

On 12/8/2020 at 9:02 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

No it won't if your pension is index linked.

Yes, it will. UK Pensions are paid in GBP, not Thai Baht. If the Pound goes down in value and you are living in Thailand, your spending power will drop.

[bannork]

Worth pointing out that the WTO has little to say about services, a vital sector for the UK. The UK really need a deal in this area.

[bkk_bwana]

On 12/8/2020 at 7:07 AM, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Which will benefit the UK , the goods the UK produces will be cheaper for the World to buy

As I said "for all you British Retirees living in Thailand". What about the GBPs that you have to covert to Thai Baht? That's going to make a huge difference. On the upside of course, the cost of Imported PG Tips, Marmite and Digestive Biscuits may be cheaper. Great.

[GrandPapillon]

Here are my bold predictions ????

 

1. No deal, and chaos in the UK will endure

2. PM BoJo quit (flee) in the middle of the chaos, like Cameron and Farange did

3. A new PM is named (Maybot?)

4. The new PM promise to end the chaos by signing a new deal with the EU

5. The new PM capitulates to EU demand, and BREXIT becomes BINO ????

6. The EU owns YOU, Brexitteers <deleted> up, down, left and right ????

 

The end

Edited December 13, 2020 by GrandPapillon