AlfHuy Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: I don't believe so for two main reasons. The first because of the client/worker 'relationships' as I mentioned earlier. It's a complicated and difficult to manage situation that would result in even more foreign men marrying prostitutes and claiming a right to reside in the country. The rules are more relaxed for foreign women married to Thai men specifically because this is unlikely to be the case when the gender roles are reversed. Secondly, we are talking about immigrating, and permanent residency indicates a step to permanently migrate here. Most foreigners, even those with families and children have no interest in integrating or becoming Thai citizens, they just want to remain in Thailand and think they should have the right to do so. Most of them would not even qualify even after many years living here, they do not speak, read or write the language, don't eat the local food and are not interested in assimilating into the local culture. For me, the rules are fine the way they are. The rules are more relaxed for foreign women married to Thai men specifically because this is unlikely to be the case when the gender roles are reversed. In many countries, this would be called discrimination. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellforce Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, AlfHuy said: Or spend 500k (soon 600k) on an Elite visa and not an overpriced condo. Elite Visa is a total waste of money when you are able to do your visa/extentions by yourself. Overpriced condo ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, AlfHuy said: The rules are more relaxed for foreign women married to Thai men specifically because this is unlikely to be the case when the gender roles are reversed. In many countries, this would be called discrimination. It would, and thank Buddha we don't live in those countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfHuy Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, Spellforce said: Elite Visa is a total waste of money when you are able to do your visa/extentions by yourself. Overpriced condo ??? Sure. 100k/m2 and up for badly build condo block. Goes up in 6 months. Low quality, low materials. Just look around how some look after a few years. No, thanks. I have bought and sold many properties/land over the years (not here) and there are better places to invest. Renting is the best option here. Cheap and if you don't like it, move on. Prices have come down dramatically and it gives you the freedom to move on, once to loud, busy, boring etc. If one could own land and build a house (in farangs name, this would be something else). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spellforce said: Elite Visa is a total waste of money when you are able to do your visa/extentions by yourself. Overpriced condo ??? The Elite visa fills a niche for the under-50's, the offshore workers that are in and out all the time and those that don't fit into any of the other non-immigrant visa pigeonholes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfHuy Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Oh you mean an SED visa - Sexual EDucation visa? Don't mention it to often or copyright the idea if not, next week, this will be the new "slogan" of TAT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadan Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 No clue about strategy. How many millions are expected to buy ? 40 ? ???????????? A drop of water in pond is the strategy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KhunKenAP Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Another day and another hair brained scheme. Wake me when one actually works. Till then call me Rip Van Winkle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellforce Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, AlfHuy said: 100k/m2 and up for badly build condo block. ... Just look around how some look after a few years Are you really living in Thailand and do you just repeat what you are earing in some bars during your hollydays ? Because as a resident in Thailand for 17 years: - that's what are saying all residents who are renting and can not afford to purchase a condo or house (most of them are just jaleous guys with a small budget) - all farang owners I know are happy of what they purchased... all ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Add to the list, Allow Farang to buy 1 Rai of land in his own name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 They propose to offer permanent residency for condos over 10 million? This is unheard of proposal no matter what you think of Thai real estate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 hours ago, onebir said: I think they may need to rethink this: couldn't you buy, then sell a Bt10 mil condo & keep the PR? (Or a 5 mill condo, then keep the 10 year visa?) Yes there is the caveat that for 5 years you can't transfer the condo, or otherwise they will cancel your PR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: It would, and thank Buddha we don't live in those countries. Sorry, are you suggesting that you like living in Thailand because discrimination is 'accepted'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 hours ago, RichardColeman said: How about permanent residence for all those long term married to Thais that buy a property ? That would be nice even citizenship like in all civilized countries... they are scared we would steal their jobs but I don't see many farangs hurrying to get a 10.000 baht per month job at 7 eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condobrit001 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 hours ago, bodga said: OK Ive bought 7 in the last 8 years....what do I get? what;s that ........oh nothing, thanks So sell one and buy a new one to qualify! These pie in the sky proposals never come to anything so don"t waste your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, jonclark said: Sorry, are you suggesting that you like living in Thailand because discrimination is 'accepted'. Yep, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Iron Tongue Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 Too good of a deal for some actually. If Bt10,000,000 condo = Permanent Residency, everyone looking for an escape from China would buy-in. Hong Kong would probably empty and move en-mass to Thailand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lacrimas said: even citizenship like in all civilized countries... they are scared we would steal their jobs but I don't see many farangs hurrying to get a 10.000 baht per month job at 7 eleven Most foreigners are wanting to become permanent residents with absolutely no interest in fulfilling basic immigrant criteria such as assimilating into the local culture, learning the language, working here, paying taxes, having Thai friends, eating local food etc. It's just more Western entitlement that we see so often on this forum. The permanent residency requirements are perfect the way they are. Keeps out the riff-raff and the client/worker couples. Edited December 18, 2020 by Mr Meeseeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WineOh Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: I don't believe so for two main reasons. The first because of the client/worker 'relationships' as I mentioned earlier. It's a complicated and difficult to manage situation that would result in even more foreign men marrying prostitutes and claiming a right to reside in the country. The rules are more relaxed for foreign women married to Thai men specifically because this is unlikely to be the case when the gender roles are reversed. Secondly, we are talking about immigrating, and permanent residency indicates a step to permanently migrate here. Most foreigners, even those with families and children have no interest in integrating or becoming Thai citizens, they just want to remain in Thailand and think they should have the right to do so. Most of them would not even qualify even after many years living here, they do not speak, read or write the language, don't eat the local food and are not interested in assimilating into the local culture. For me, the rules are fine the way they are. Well, what a sexist bigot you are. goodnight and god bless ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Iron Tongue said: Too good of a deal for some actually. If Bt10,000,000 condo = Permanent Residency, everyone looking for an escape from China would buy-in. Hong Kong would probably empty and move en-mass to Thailand. The Chinese have special ways to get that already regardless. I assume for under 1M baht. Often via military connections too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Yep, don't you? Of course it allows me to discriminate against Thais on a daily basis and for them to suck it up and accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Most foreigners are wanting to become permanent residents with absolutely no interest in fulfilling basic immigrant criteria such as assimilating into the local culture, learning the language, working here, paying taxes, having Thai friends, eating local food etc. It's just more Western entitlement that we see so often on this forum. The permanent residency requirements are perfect the way they are. Keeps out the riff-raff and the client/worker couples. Well Mr. Grumpy you need to turn that frown upside down today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, ChaiyaTH said: The Chinese have special ways to get that already regardless. I assume for under 1M baht. Often via military connections too. Nope, I'm not talking about corrupt Chinese insiders with connections to the Communist Party, I'm talking about the people of Hong Kong. They are the ones who lost all of their liberties with the passage of China's HK Security Law this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XBroker Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 How much of your life does the ever moving goal post take from you & your loved ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Will Set You Free Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 How many of you readers continue to read this BS and then comment on it? The headline is just enough for me personally. Do not buy Condo’s in this country for any type of visa. You still got to do 90 days checks and if you don’t check in, they will fine you for the cost of that type of visa. Time to cook some chicken wings....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, condobrit001 said: So sell one and buy a new one to qualify! These pie in the sky proposals never come to anything so don"t waste your time. and, if so, looking at the circle of over invested developers where this proposal seems to originate, it would not be surprising if a list of "authorised" sellers were attached to the proposal. So, in short, those with 10+ invested in real estate in Thailand, never mind, invested in the past already without incentives, just go the normal route if you want residence status, and be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onebir Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Most foreigners are wanting to become permanent residents with absolutely no interest in fulfilling basic immigrant criteria such as assimilating into the local culture, learning the language, working here, paying taxes, having Thai friends, eating local food etc. It's just more Western entitlement that we see so often on this forum. Or Eastern entitlement*, if they're Chinese? *That we don't often see on this forum... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 8 hours ago, RichardColeman said: How about permanent residence for all those long term married to Thais that buy a property ? That would be nice In you dream, you are already here. But perhaps someone new foreigner arriving, marrying a Thai, and buying her a house could be eligible, as that would increase the currency flow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 8 hours ago, onebir said: I think they may need to rethink this: couldn't you buy, then sell a Bt10 mil condo & keep the PR? (Or a 5 mill condo, then keep the 10 year visa?) Will be new, farang allocation only... you tried reselling a now second hand 10 mil condo ?? Think they will be safe for a while ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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