U.S. CDC reports 330,901 total deaths from coronavirus

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U.S. CDC reports 330,901 total deaths from coronavirus

 

An Anaheim Fire & Rescue ambulance arrives at the emergency room at University of California, Irvine Medical Center as the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak continues in Orange, California, U.S., December 27, 2020. REUTERS/Bing Guan

 

(Reuters) - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Sunday reported 18,909,910 cases of new coronavirus, an increase of 179,104 cases from its previous count, and said deaths had risen by 1,309 to 330,901.

 

The CDC reported its tally of cases of the respiratory illness known as COVID-19 as of 4 p.m. ET on Saturday versus its previous report a day earlier. https://bit.ly/2JkpCs3

 

The CDC figures do not necessarily reflect cases reported by individual states.

 

(Reporting by Vishal Vivek in Bengaluru; Editing by Richard Chang)

 

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[mtls2005]

It's going to be a long, tough slog for the next three months.

 

IHME projections have multiple scenarios, but looks like ~ 635,000 total deaths by March 1. 2021. Best case: 493,000.

 

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america?view=total-deaths&tab=trend

 

 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2020 by mtls2005

[Scott]

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[puipuitom]

You know, Trump feels himself to the be the greatest, best, etc president the USA has ever had and will ever get.

 

He wants to break still one record: the number of deaths coming from special sources. He still have to let one president in front of him: Roosevelt, thanks to the casualties of WW2. But.. still a 33 days to go...With a 2-3.000 corona-casualties per day, he might get the first place ever.

[ExpatOK]

It's amazing people actually believe these numbers.

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3 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

It's amazing people actually believe these numbers.

It's amazing someone asserts something like this without referencing excess mortality figures. 

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57 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Then perhaps you should do what you do best.

If you mean provide proof that what you claim is nonsense, I'm happy to oblige. These are the CDC charts for the first 6 months of 2019 and 2020. T Do I need to do the arithmetic for you too?

 

State and National Provisional Counts (cdc.gov)

[Scott]

Off-topic, troll posts and replies removed.

 

[Tug]

12 hours ago, puipuitom said:

You know, Trump feels himself to the be the greatest, best, etc president the USA has ever had and will ever get.

 

He wants to break still one record: the number of deaths coming from special sources. He still have to let one president in front of him: Roosevelt, thanks to the casualties of WW2. But.. still a 33 days to go...With a 2-3.000 corona-casualties per day, he might get the first place ever.

Unfortunately he’s surpassed that # allready he’s managed through epic incompetence to get more Americans killed than the axis powers in ww2 (combat deaths) whats really horrific is there are plenty of people in government who knew what to do to manage the pandemic correctly but trump wouldent get out of their way he will imo go down in history as the most incompetent president in history 

[Scott]

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[Jeffr2]

24 minutes ago, Tug said:

Unfortunately he’s surpassed that # allready he’s managed through epic incompetence to get more Americans killed than the axis powers in ww2 (combat deaths) whats really horrific is there are plenty of people in government who knew what to do to manage the pandemic correctly but trump wouldent get out of their way he will imo go down in history as the most incompetent president in history 

Let's not just blame him.  Blame his enablers also.  GOP members of congress, cabinet members, staffers who lied to us.  They should all be held accountable.  McConnell, Cruz, Graham, etc.  Horrible politicians.

[Rimmer]

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[ExpatOK]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

Unfortunately he’s surpassed that # allready he’s managed through epic incompetence to get more Americans killed than the axis powers in ww2 (combat deaths) whats really horrific is there are plenty of people in government who knew what to do to manage the pandemic correctly but trump wouldent get out of their way he will imo go down in history as the most incompetent president in history 

To blame Trump for those deaths is absurd and you know it.

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9 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

To blame Trump for those deaths is absurd and you know it.

The inside story of how Trump’s denial, mismanagement and magical thinking led to the pandemic’s dark winter

How Trump’s denial and mismanagement led to the covid pandemic’s dark winter - Washington Post

[Tug]

3 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

To blame Trump for those deaths is absurd and you know it.

Not to realize trumps epic mishandling of the pandemic imo is absurd he is indeed responsible for much of this furthermore his continued holding of super spreader events and petulant refusal to set an example of following even basic safety protocols is sir imo inexcusable and derelict (to put it nicely) he’s killed lots of Americans by sheer incompetence and vanity enough!

[mtls2005]

16 hours ago, ExpatOK said:

It's amazing people actually believe these numbers.

 

You mean The White House Coronavirus Task Force? Led by vp pence? Right?

 

Surely we can believe what they publish?

 

 

Or are you inferring there is some vast conspiracy, of which they are a part, to over or under represent the figures?

 

Do share your "knowledge".

 

 

 

 

[Eric Loh]

18 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

To blame Trump for those deaths is absurd and you know it.

A typical Trump line and you know it. ????

[Jeffr2]

26 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

To blame Trump for those deaths is absurd and you know it.

To not blame him is absurd. Sad you don't know it.

[nauseus]

On 12/29/2020 at 12:14 PM, Jeffr2 said:

To not blame him is absurd. Sad you don't know it.

 

Do you blame him for all of the deaths worldwide? Or the leaders of all individual nations? Or who?

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2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Do you blame him for all of the deaths worldwide? Or the leaders of all individual nations? Or who?

Not all the deaths in the USA but definitely a good part of them. The loon repeatedly denigrated the wearing of masks.

[Jeffr2]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Do you blame him for all of the deaths worldwide? Or the leaders of all individual nations? Or who?

All deaths worldwide and all bad things that happened worldwide for the past 4 years.  OK?

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

All deaths worldwide and all bad things that happened worldwide for the past 4 years.  OK?

 

Good to know that China is entirely blameless then. Great.

[Phoenix Rising]

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Good to know that China is entirely blameless then. Great.

Nice deflection attempt, but China is not to blame for trump's utter uselessness. Hopefully his criminal negligence will lead to charges and a conviction.

MADA - Make Americans Dead Already!

[onthedarkside]

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[cmarshall]

56 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Good to know that China is entirely blameless then. Great.

 

If China were to blame for most of the outcome then countries like S. Korea, Viet Nam, Taiwan, and Thailand would have Covid deaths per million comparable to the US, UK, Brazil, etc.  But those countries have deaths per million counts hundreds of times worse than the Asian countries.  So, whatever the effect was of China's initial bungling, the Asian countries nevertheless were able to protect their populations to a very high degree.  Yet all of the Western countries failed miserably by comparison, the US worst of all.  So, obviously China can't be to blame for the bulk of the deaths.

 

So, yes, Trump and the Republicans are entirely to blame for all the deaths above the rates experienced by the Asian countries.

[Phoenix Rising]

Top presidential historian on Trump's legacy: 'He was largely responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans who did not need to die'

 

""Donald Trump is not going to change the record. He was largely responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans who did not need to die," Beschloss said. "Millions of others who suffered from covid did not need to suffer. This is really Nero's fiddling while Rome burns."'

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, cmarshall said:

 

If China were to blame for most of the outcome then countries like S. Korea, Viet Nam, Taiwan, and Thailand would have Covid deaths per million comparable to the US, UK, Brazil, etc.  But those countries have deaths per million counts hundreds of times worse than the Asian countries.  So, whatever the effect was of China's initial bungling, the Asian countries nevertheless were able to protect their populations to a very high degree.  Yet all of the Western countries failed miserably by comparison, the US worst of all.  So, obviously China can't be to blame for the bulk of the deaths.

 

So, yes, Trump and the Republicans are entirely to blame for all the deaths above the rates experienced by the Asian countries.

 

Over simplified. You have not considered the climates and social behaviour patterns of different countries/peoples for a start.

[cmarshall]

56 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Over simplified. You have not considered the climates and social behaviour patterns of different countries/peoples for a start.

 

I didn't consider climates and social behavior, because those are irrelevant to controlling the virus.  All of the successful Asian countries responded quickly, especially S. Korea and Taiwan, and put in place effective measures to test, isolate positives, and trace contacts.  These measures together constitute the best practices for controlling contagious diseases per the WHO along with mask-wearing and social distancing.  All of the successful Asian countries put in place all of these measures in varying degrees and were successful.  None, zero, zip of the incompetent Western countries did any of these steps consistently and effectively.  And only the Asian countries, again especially S. Korea and Taiwan, were constantly surveilling China for emergent pathogens, so they kicked their programs into action in 2019.  The US, alone as far as I can tell among the Western countries did have an epidemic surveillance capacity in place in China including a branch of the US CDC in Beijing with a staff of 47 including epidemiologists.  However, Trump shut all that down in 2017, so the US from then on was as blind as the rest of the Western countries.

 

I am sure the type of Westerner who simply refuses to believe that a country like Thailand could possibly outperform an "advanced " country like the US or the UK, but the facts are staring you in the face.  Climate clearly played no discernible role since the second most infected country is India with a climate much like Thailand's.  One could consider social behavior to be a factor if you consider a willingness to wear a face mask to protect other people to be "social behavior," rather than, say, "intelligence."

 

[Tug]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Over simplified. You have not considered the climates and social behaviour patterns of different countries/peoples for a start.

Over simplified on your part China is a country that as far as we know the virus occurred in nature it was NOT engineered by any one person from ANY country it happened to start infections in China it’s how it was handeled after it started that’s The issue trump failed epically in this he is a disgrace as a president he has through his ineptitude caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans that’s sadly fact it dident have to be this bad

[impulse]

On 12/28/2020 at 5:41 AM, puipuitom said:

You know, Trump feels himself to the be the greatest, best, etc president the USA has ever had and will ever get.

 

He wants to break still one record: the number of deaths coming from special sources. He still have to let one president in front of him: Roosevelt, thanks to the casualties of WW2. But.. still a 33 days to go...With a 2-3.000 corona-casualties per day, he might get the first place ever.

 

Blaming Trump for Covid is like blaming FDR for WW2. 

 

Sure, FDR could have kept the USA out of the war, and all of Europe would be speaking German (or Russian, depending on which historian you believe) and Thailand would be a Japanese colony.

 

Trump could have shut down the economy, but millions more would be destitute and homeless.  I'm not a Trump fan at all, and will be happy to see the back end of him.  But blaming him for a pandemic doesn't serve the truth.

 

Edited December 31, 2020 by impulse