Why the winners in Georgia runoffs might not be known for days

[welovesundaysatspace]

3 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Wonder when Trump is going to weigh in with a whole slew of deranged twitter rants that these elections were stolen? 

 

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He already has!

Probably like weeks before the election. And then again when a fly was caught on CCTV sitting on a box in some street three blocks near the election center.

[J Town]

I can only imagine Mitch is positively SOILING himself right about now!

[Berkshire]

And just to be clear, Georgia Republican officials know who to blame if their senate candidate(s) loses...

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-republican-official-blames-trump-if-gop-candidates-lose/vi-BB1cvb3n

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Berkshire

[Jingthing]

39 minutes ago, J Town said:

Not in the case of Warnock, his lead is beyond the required recount percentage. Will Rep's whine about HAVING to have a recount? You can bet on it, but we know how Georgia recounts go.

That's true and who knows maybe Ossoff will be able to beat that automatic recount margin.

 

In any case if Ossoff prevails his will be even a bigger win than Warnock's.

 

Why?

 

Ossoff was always considered less likely to win than Warnock.  The relative margins prove that was true.

 

Perdue is a real incumbent. Ossoff would win 6 years. Warnock only wins 2 years because Loeffler was appointed as a replacement and had never been elected. 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Jingthing

[J Town]

Just now, Jingthing said:

That's true and who knows maybe Ossoff will be able to beat that automatic recount marg.

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Hell, LET them recount. The attention that has been paid to this election means it has been squeaky clean!

[onthedarkside]

From the AP at this hour:

 

 

 

[onthedarkside]

Warnock makes history with Senate win as Dems near majority

ATLANTA (AP) — Democrat Raphael Warnock won one of Georgia’s two Senate runoffs Wednesday, becoming the first Black senator in his state’s history and putting the Senate majority within the party’s reach.

 

A pastor who spent the past 15 years leading the Atlanta church where Martin Luther King Jr. preached, Warnock defeated Republican incumbent Kelly Loeffler. It was a stinging rebuke of outgoing President Donald Trump, who made one of his final trips in office to Georgia to rally his loyal base behind Loeffler and the Republican running for the other seat, David Perdue.

 

The focus now shifts to the second race between Perdue and Democrat Jon Ossoff. That contest was too early to call as votes were still being counted.

 

There were still some mail ballots and in-person early votes left to be counted statewide, the majority of which are in Democratic-leaning counties. Under Georgia law, a trailing candidate may request a recount when the margin of an election is less than or equal to 0.5 percentage points.

 

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-senate-election-day-voting-85d4caf2e38b5cc3cc21bdd4a6691d6d

[Psimbo]

33 minutes ago, J Town said:

I can only imagine Mitch is positively SOILING himself right about now!

He and the odious Graham are prime examples of why Senators (and Congresspersons) should not be allowed more than 2 terms as well. It's gonna scrape a lot of pork from the barrel. The Lobbying communitee needs a good sort out as well- its just legalised bribery and corruption.

 

Mitch is an absolute disgrace- no matter what their leanings Senators should support, not sabotage, a President once in power.

 

The system really needs reform but its never going to happen as there are too many vested interests on both sides.

[Jeffr2]

13 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

Warnock makes history with Senate win as Dems near majority

ATLANTA (AP) — Democrat Raphael Warnock won one of Georgia’s two Senate runoffs Wednesday, becoming the first Black senator in his state’s history and putting the Senate majority within the party’s reach.

 

A pastor who spent the past 15 years leading the Atlanta church where Martin Luther King Jr. preached, Warnock defeated Republican incumbent Kelly Loeffler. It was a stinging rebuke of outgoing President Donald Trump, who made one of his final trips in office to Georgia to rally his loyal base behind Loeffler and the Republican running for the other seat, David Perdue.

 

The focus now shifts to the second race between Perdue and Democrat Jon Ossoff. That contest was too early to call as votes were still being counted.

 

There were still some mail ballots and in-person early votes left to be counted statewide, the majority of which are in Democratic-leaning counties. Under Georgia law, a trailing candidate may request a recount when the margin of an election is less than or equal to 0.5 percentage points.

 

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-senate-election-day-voting-85d4caf2e38b5cc3cc21bdd4a6691d6d

Yeah, this is history in the making.  A long way from the Jim Crow laws and voting BS that Georgia has enacted over the years.

 

Warnock is royalty in GA.  Pastor at the that great Atlanta church.  A man of integrity. 

 

Great that he beat those who were just spouting racism, fear, conspiracy theories and attacks against others. 

 

Maybe the US does have a chance after all...

 

Fingers crossed for Ossoff, but it's looking good.  Bye bye McConnell.  Hello Kamala.  A woman of color as speaker of the senate.  Incredible.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

10 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Fingers crossed for Ossoff, but it's looking good.  Bye bye McConnell.  Hello Kamala.  A woman of color as speaker of the senate.  Incredible.

 

Assuming all these things play out as expected....AFAIK...

 

VP Harris would become the president / presiding officer of the Senate.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presiding_Officer_of_the_United_States_Senate

 

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The Vice President is assigned the responsibility by the Constitution of presiding over the Senate and designated as its president. The vice president has the authority (ex officio, for they are not an elected member of the Senate) to cast a tie-breaking vote.

 

Then once Ossoff and Warnock are seated, the Democrats in the Senate would I think have to elect a new Majority Leader to replace McConnell. Could be Chuck Schumer, the current minority leader, or someone else.

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[stevenl]

14 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Yeah, this is history in the making.  A long way from the Jim Crow laws and voting BS that Georgia has enacted over the years.

 

Warnock is royalty in GA.  Pastor at the that great Atlanta church.  A man of integrity. 

 

Great that he beat those who were just spouting racism, fear, conspiracy theories and attacks against others. 

 

Maybe the US does have a chance after all...

 

Fingers crossed for Ossoff, but it's looking good.  Bye bye McConnell.  Hello Kamala.  A woman of color as speaker of the senate.  Incredible.

Agree, but she won't be speaker.

[Jeffr2]

8 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Agree, but she won't be speaker.

Will Mitch still be the speaker?  I understand Kamala will be the tie breaker, if needed.

 

Who will preside over the senate?

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2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Will Mitch still be the speaker?  I understand Kamala will be the tie breaker, if needed.

 

Who will preside over the senate?

Well, a vote will be held for majority leader. That will be Schumer. But the vice-President officially presides over the Senate. But usually can be absent. Harris is going to have to stick close to home for the next 2 years.

[cmarshall]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

That's true and who knows maybe Ossoff will be able to beat that automatic recount margin.

 

In any case if Ossoff prevails his will be even a bigger win than Warnock's.

 

Why?

 

Ossoff was always considered less likely to win than Warnock.  The relative margins prove that was true.

 

Perdue is a real incumbent. Ossoff would win 6 years. Warnock only wins 2 years because Loeffler was appointed as a replacement and had never been elected. 

 

True, but let's not forget that it was Black voters motivated to put Warnock in the Senate that elected Ossoff.  Had Warnock not run, Ossoff would have lost.

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

True, but let's not forget that it was Black voters motivated to put Warnock in the Senate that elected Ossoff.  Had Warnock not run, Ossoff would have lost.

An assumption....

[Jeffr2]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-georgia-runoff-power/2021/01/05/04bc8cd8-4f7f-11eb-b96e-0e54447b23a1_story.html

 

2. Who runs the Senate, if no party has a majority?

The party that holds the vice presidency. The Constitution makes the vice president the president of the Senate, with the power to cast the decisive vote in cases of a tie.

[J Town]

8 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Will Mitch still be the speaker?  I understand Kamala will be the tie breaker, if needed.

 

Who will preside over the senate?

Who runs the Senate, if no party has a majority?

The party that holds the vice presidency.

 

Q&A: What happens if the U.S. Senate is equally split after Georgia’s runoffs? | The Seattle Times

 

(note to 45 supporters: THIS is how you share facts)

[Jeffr2]

Just now, J Town said:

Who runs the Senate, if no party has a majority?

The party that holds the vice presidency.

 

Q&A: What happens if the U.S. Senate is equally split after Georgia’s runoffs? | The Seattle Times

 

(note to 45 supporters: THIS is how you share facts)

We think alike!  Thanks!!!!

[J Town]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

We think alike!  Thanks!!!!

You beat me to it by 5 seconds. ????

[onthedarkside]

A post making unsubstantiated and unsourced election fraud claims has been removed, along with several replies.

 

[J Town]

Well - just took a look at Fox, and even THEY are admitting Warnock won and Ossoff most likely will as well.

 

And the awful lies they are spewing is shameful! "Socialism" "Bernie Sanders won" "Hard left!"

 

And millions lap up the vomit they ooze.

Edited January 6, 2021 by J Town

[Andy from Kent]

 

Someone said Trump is arranging to go to Georgia himself and personally count each and every ballot cast.

 

[J Town]

1 minute ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

Someone said Trump is arranging to go to Georgia himself and personally count each and every ballot cast.

 

He can't count that high. He only gets to twenty and a half when stark naked.

Edited January 6, 2021 by J Town

[Sujo]

3 minutes ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

Someone said Trump is arranging to go to Georgia himself and personally count each and every ballot cast.

 

If he counts like he does on a golf course it will only go up to 4.

[scorecard]

On 1/5/2021 at 4:46 PM, herfiehandbag said:

If the result is a close victory for the Democrat candidates then of course we can expect every possible allegation, "legal" move and tremendous pressure on the ballot authorities to somehow "correct" the results. 

So let's hope that everything is in place to ensure there's zero possibility of any form of error in processing/counting the votes.

 

And hope there's no chance of criticism that observers weren't allowed close enough to view documents etc.

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2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So let's hope that everything is in place to ensure there's zero possibility of any form of error in processing/counting the votes.

 

And hope there's no chance of criticism that observers weren't allowed close enough to view documents etc.

Because Trump & Company respect the facts?

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, cmarshall said:

 

True, but let's not forget that it was Black voters motivated to put Warnock in the Senate that elected Ossoff.  Had Warnock not run, Ossoff would have lost.

Also to note Warnock is the first black democratic senator from the former confederate states. That's definitely historic.

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, J Town said:

I can only imagine Mitch is positively SOILING himself right about now!

So well deserved!

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Also to note Warnock is the first black democratic senator from the former confederate states. That's definitely historic.

His mom picked cotton in Georgia. You BET they've come a long way. More to go, but it's going in the right direction FINALLY!

[herfiehandbag]

6 hours ago, Sujo said:

Trump just had an air swing on the first tee.

I know little about golf, never even having held a golf bat in my paws, however I understand that in Mr Trump's sporting world they are not counted...