Trump invited supporters to "wild" protest, and told them to fight. They did.

[sirineou]

14 minutes ago, khaowong1 said:

Have you noticed, everything in the Newspapers is, Trump supporters mob, but earlier last year, 2020, when Portland and other cities were being burned to the ground, it was BLM peaceful protests this or Antifa peaceful protests that.  Our Main Stream Media has moved so far left, they might as well open their main offices in Beijing.  

You are absolutely right , they are the same and should be called the same.

I remember when  BLM mobs took over the Capital , chased out congress, and attempted with an inept coup to disrupt the government.  LOL

[shdmn]

15 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Strange because Twitter had said they would extend the 12 hour ban until he removed the post.

 

So maybe he removed the post in question?

 

It's also strange is that they chose to ban him on the same day they found out Dems will control the committees that will decide whether to regulate them.

 

Edited January 7, 2021 by shdmn

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, shdmn said:

 

It's also strange is that they chose to ban him on the same day they found out Dems will control the committees that will decide whether to regulate them.

 

Yeah, sure, but the incitement for domestic terrorists to storm the capitol to carry out a coup is a more compelling reason. 

Edited January 7, 2021 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, shdmn said:

Now these losers are being hunted down like dogs.  Hopefully with felony charges.

 

It shouldn't be hard to track them down.  They are not that smart and a lot of them are openly bragging on social media.

Yes but the vast majority of them were politely escorted out of the building they had illegally invaded. They should all have been immediately arrested. It's "interesting" that they were almost all white. Imagine if they had been a terrorist mob of black or brown people trying to disrupt the peaceful transition of power. 

 

This wasn't a normal trespass case. So for the right wingers, supposedly pro law and order, where is the call for law and order for these domestic terrorists? 

[cdemundo]

17 hours ago, robblok said:

The freedom of speech in the US is a great good but its sad there is no possibility to punish a president who is inciting riots with proven lies. That he won by a landslide and massive voter fraud.

 

Why is there no mechanism to punish proven falsehoods. I like freedom of speech but just like with anti vaxers they spread so much proven lies and Trump too. I know it beats a state controlled media. But this isnt perfect either.  

It may be the case that incitement to violence is not protected speech.  I am no lawyer but I have heard this being discussed on TV news.

 

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

It may be the case that incitement to violence is not protected speech.  I am no lawyer but I have heard this being discussed on TV news.

 

That's right. Not all speech is protected. The classic yelling fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire is not legal. It will be hard to legally hold Mr. trump responsible for the recent domestic terrorist event, but his phone call to Georgia (also speech) to try to illegally tamper with an election would be very easy to prosecute. 

 

The dark irony of all this is that President Biden has not shown an interest in legal retribution against the shambolic Mr. trump. But the atmosphere in the country has changed overnight.  Yet again, he blew it and the decision is not only on President Biden. 

 

To his credit, Mr. trump can always try the insanity defense. 

Edited January 7, 2021 by Jingthing

[cdemundo]

58 minutes ago, sirineou said:

You are absolutely right , they are the same and should be called the same.

I remember when  BLM mobs took over the Capital , chased out congress, and attempted with an inept coup to disrupt the government.  LOL

Hey, no fair!!!  That is like irony or something smart you are doing.

[sirineou]

10 minutes ago, cdemundo said:

Hey, no fair!!!  That is like irony or something smart you are doing.

I was afraid it might be to "smart" for trump supporters, so I tried using small words , but unfortunately I could not find pictures to go with it. 

They are probably all confused now wondering " I don't get it he did not say anything about iron" how was it ironee

Edited January 7, 2021 by sirineou

[jchfriis]

What is so amazing is all the comments from people who didn't see this coming. It's been in the work since the start of the 2016 election campaign. It is right out of Hitler's and Goebbel's playbook.

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's right. Not all speech is protected. The classic yelling fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire is not legal. It will be hard to legally hold Mr. trump responsible for the recent domestic terrorist event, but his phone call to Georgia (also speech) to try to illegally tamper with an election would be very easy to prosecute. 

 

The dark irony of all this is that President Biden has not shown an interest in legal retribution against the shambolic Mr. trump. But the atmosphere in the country has changed overnight.  Yet again, he blew it and the decision is not only on President Biden. 

 

To his credit, Mr. trump can always try the insanity defense. 

Don't forget that an action to invoke the 25th amendment has to be taken by the current VP, not Biden.

 

However there must be a million other incidents where he could be charged with serious crimes even while he's president. Or at least very seriously shamed to the point where he withdraws.

[cmarshall]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The dark irony of all this is that President Biden has not shown an interest in legal retribution against the shambolic Mr. trump. But the atmosphere in the country has changed overnight.  Yet again, he blew it and the decision is not only on President Biden. 

 

Whether Biden intends the DoJ to prosecute Trump or not he has to distance himself from any such action.  He hopes, and we need, the Democrats to get some votes from the Trumpists in the future.  But now the Biden administration cannot avoid investigating and prosecuting Trump.  That will be even more true when he pardons himself in the next two weeks.  

[scammed]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Imagine if they had been a terrorist mob of black or brown people trying to disrupt the peaceful transition of power. 

i can more then imagine, i can quote a governor kate brown

 

The massive and non-violent protests led by Black Lives Matter activists

have inspired the nation. Let's get to work and make this vision a reality.

 

now you imagine if she had replaced black with white,

and cheer on trump gang instead,

and imagine if mainstream media had kept the

narrative of mostly peaceful/non violent protest

 

Edited January 7, 2021 by scammed

[Jeffr2]

10 hours ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

I don't think  a Billionaire really cares one way or another.

Yes he does.  All he talks about is how many retweets he has, how many followers, how many likes, etc.  He's obsessed with social media and the attention to him.  He's got a mental problem, narcissism.  It's all about Trump.

[Jeffr2]

6 hours ago, khaowong1 said:

Have you noticed, everything in the Newspapers is, Trump supporters mob, but earlier last year, 2020, when Portland and other cities were being burned to the ground, it was BLM peaceful protests this or Antifa peaceful protests that.  Our Main Stream Media has moved so far left, they might as well open their main offices in Beijing.  

Don't misstate the facts.  These were domestic terrorists.  No denying that.  And the MSM did condem the violence with BLM.  Perhaps the media outlets you read are very far right?  OANN?  Fox News?  InfoWars?

 

Here's the difference between how the police responded to the BLM protest and these domestic terrorists.  NO comparison.  Disgusting.  Luckily, heads are rolling.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/police-response-black-lives-matter-protest-us-capitol/index.html

[ExpatOK]

In something that looked like a scene out of the movie "Animal House," a small gang of trouble makers (fraternity boys?), one wearing horns, struck fear in the hearts of the nation's elite, some of whom fled to security bunkers.  Even on this forum many appear to be terrified of what might happen next.  Trump on social media once again assured the nation he would leave the White House on January 20th.  He also denounced the rascals who took over the Capitol.  He stopped short of putting them on "double secret probation" (see the movie).

 

Time to come out guys, everything is fine.

[Sujo]

3 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

In something that looked like a scene out of the movie "Animal House," a small gang of trouble makers (fraternity boys?), one wearing horns, struck fear in the hearts of the nation's elite, some of whom fled to security bunkers.  Even on this forum many appear to be terrified of what might happen next.  Trump on social media once again assured the nation he would leave the White House on January 20th.  He also denounced the rascals who took over the Capitol.  He stopped short of putting them on "double secret probation" (see the movie).

 

Time to come out guys, everything is fine.

You do realize an officer died during the coup riot.

[placeholder]

12 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

In something that looked like a scene out of the movie "Animal House," a small gang of trouble makers (fraternity boys?), one wearing horns, struck fear in the hearts of the nation's elite, some of whom fled to security bunkers.  Even on this forum many appear to be terrified of what might happen next.  Trump on social media once again assured the nation he would leave the White House on January 20th.  He also denounced the rascals who took over the Capitol.  He stopped short of putting them on "double secret probation" (see the movie).

 

Time to come out guys, everything is fine.

And they got past the police by politely requesting them to stand aside?

[Jeffr2]

13 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

In something that looked like a scene out of the movie "Animal House," a small gang of trouble makers (fraternity boys?), one wearing horns, struck fear in the hearts of the nation's elite, some of whom fled to security bunkers.  Even on this forum many appear to be terrified of what might happen next.  Trump on social media once again assured the nation he would leave the White House on January 20th.  He also denounced the rascals who took over the Capitol.  He stopped short of putting them on "double secret probation" (see the movie).

 

Time to come out guys, everything is fine.

You seriously believe what Trump says?  Come on....too funny...gave me a good chuckle.

 

The day before, and actually the day of the riots, he was praising them, telling them to be strong and take back the vote.  For weeks, he's been setting up this event.  Even paid for it.

 

Come on....

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, Sujo said:

You do realize an officer died during the coup riot.

Right.  along with 4 others.  Trump needs to pay for this.  it's 100% his fault.  Even his turncoat enablers are now saying this.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

Don't forget that an action to invoke the 25th amendment has to be taken by the current VP, not Biden.

 

However there must be a million other incidents where he could be charged with serious crimes even while he's president. Or at least very seriously shamed to the point where he withdraws.

No. He can't be indicted for anything while president. But the day after

...

[Jeffr2]

Betsy just resigned...yahoo!!!!

 

https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/07/betsy-devos-resigns-in-protest/

[Blue Muton]

22 hours ago, placeholder said:

How long is it going to be before the conspiracy loons claim that the invasion of the Capitol was a false flag operation designed to stop the data dump that would prove the election was stolen? 

They've already done that, many Trumanzees are saying "it was Antifa wot dun it" apparently.

[Jeffr2]

8 minutes ago, Blue Muton said:

They've already done that, many Trumanzees are saying "it was Antifa wot dun it" apparently.

All the right wing media outlets are saying this.  I saw it on Fox yesterday.  Saying it wasn't Trump supporters who were the worst, but Antifa members.

 

Right....sad some fall for this.

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, ExpatOK said:

In something that looked like a scene out of the movie "Animal House," a small gang of trouble makers (fraternity boys?), one wearing horns, struck fear in the hearts of the nation's elite, some of whom fled to security bunkers.  Even on this forum many appear to be terrified of what might happen next.  Trump on social media once again assured the nation he would leave the White House on January 20th.  He also denounced the rascals who took over the Capitol.  He stopped short of putting them on "double secret probation" (see the movie).

 

Time to come out guys, everything is fine.

You seem to be on your own little island, defending Trump on this one.  Even Fox News is outraged.

 

[Fox Nation host Tomi Lahren issued a scathing condemnation of Wednesday's violence on Capitol Hill, taking direct aim at the "anarchist animals" who left her "appalled, disgusted" and "sick to my stomach."]

 

["I never thought I’d see the day when some Trump supporters – many who I thought were my fellow patriots – would act like the very thugs and anarchists we’ve spent much of the year condemning," Lahren said on her Fox Nation show "Final Thoughts."]

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/capitol-riot-violence-tomi-lahren-reaction

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You seem to be on your own little island, defending Trump on this one.  Even Fox News is outraged.

 

[Fox Nation host Tomi Lahren issued a scathing condemnation of Wednesday's violence on Capitol Hill, taking direct aim at the "anarchist animals" who left her "appalled, disgusted" and "sick to my stomach."]

 

["I never thought I’d see the day when some Trump supporters – many who I thought were my fellow patriots – would act like the very thugs and anarchists we’ve spent much of the year condemning," Lahren said on her Fox Nation show "Final Thoughts."]

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/capitol-riot-violence-tomi-lahren-reaction

I watched a few shows on Fox yesterday.  Many of them were saying the most violent terrorists yesterday were from Antifa.  Which isn't true.  Even Gaetz, that disgusting politician, said the same thing on the house floor.  Insane people.

[Berkshire]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

I watched a few shows on Fox yesterday.  Many of them were saying the most violent terrorists yesterday were from Antifa.  Which isn't true.  Even Gaetz, that disgusting politician, said the same thing on the house floor.  Insane people.

I've heard about that and it doesn't surprise me.  Of course they will try to blame the other side....been like that for 4 years.  And Gaetz...a total slimeball.  Just like Nunes, Jordan, Cruz, and a few others.  Mark my words, they've been boot-licking Trump all this time, but once the political winds change and Trump is no longer the center of the GOP universe, they'll turn on him in an instant. 

[mtls2005]

1 hour ago, ExpatOK said:

In something that looked like a scene out of the movie "Animal House," a small gang of trouble makers (fraternity boys?)

 

Yep. Exactly what I thought - NOT. Just a bunch of wacky Deltas having a bit of fun.

 

You do realize that Bluto went on to become Senator Blutarksky, right?

 

 

 

 

[ballpoint]

14 hours ago, dunroaming said:

You would hope so! But with events unfolding almost hourly there will be so much just swept under the carpet.

For a crime of this magnitude, I think those at the top will consider it essential that justice is seen to be done.

[bendejo]

21 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

You do realize that Bluto went on to become Senator Blutarksky, right?

 

Yeah, I think about that whenever I hear Bret Kavanaugh's name.  I wonder if he still whips his doink out for a laugh.

 

[brianthainess]

On 1/7/2021 at 8:28 AM, Bangyai said:

An absolutely deplorable state of affairs. 

 

Authoritarian regimes around the world must be loving this.

 

Very sad day in American history.

 

 

As was the day he became president.