Analysis - Trump's legacy: A more divided America, a more unsettled world

[PatOngo]

3 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Poor guy didn't stand a chance with the lefty judges, mayors, BLM, ANTIFA, the media, sports and hollywood out to get him from day one. Surprised he stuck around for one term.

Oh how my heart bleeds! If anyone deserved the flack he got, it's Trump, he deserves all he gets! Good riddance!

[Jeffr2]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump apparently said that if the senate didn't vote for the $2000 they'd have a death wish. He was right. Any with half a brain cell would have known that, IMO. What was MItch thinking? It's almost as if he wanted to lose the senate to the Dems.

Wait a minute.  That package was negotiated for 8 months.  Trump could of jumped in months ago to demand this, just like the dems did. But he didn't.

 

Anyone with half a brain cell knows this.  He came in at the end, after stopping the package from passing, then throwing this grenade in just to create chaos.  Sad you fell for it.  But yes, Mitch was also part of the problem.  Has been for years now.

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4 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Poor guy didn't stand a chance with the lefty judges, mayors, BLM, ANTIFA, the media, sports and hollywood out to get him from day one. Surprised he stuck around for one term.

Especially those 9 Marxists on the Supreme Court.

[Walker88]

35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Apparently you believe in polls. I don't.

Polls were right in 2016 (they predicted the popular vote, not EC vote) and they were right in 2020.

 

45 lost. Badly. Largest loss by an incumbent repub ever. A Landslide.

 

He leaves having lost 2 popular votes, after 2 impeachments, and after entering with an (R) Senate, (R) House and (R) WH, he leaves with a (D) WH, (D) Senate and (D) House.

 

He entered with a growing economy, falling unemployment, a declining yearly deficit, and no pandemic. He leaves in the midst of an horrific pandemic, rising unemployment, an economy in Recession, and a skyrocketing national deficit.

 

That is failure on a grand scale, an absolute humiliation.

 

45 is going to disappear like flatulence in a typhoon. It's over.

[Captain Monday]

Trumps executive orders can be rescinded

His cabinet employed to sabotage the agencies they were to lead are fired

International Relations damage will take years

Handpicked judicial appointees are in for decades or life.

The basket of deplorables many are doomed to a lifetime of ignorance

Radicalized like any extremist very difficult to help even with years of therapy

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, vandeventer said:

He will not go quietly in the night. We will see what kind of mess we will all be in after a few months of Biden and his bag of fools will do. Lets hope President Trump will be there in 2024 if America is still a free country!!! Free speech is only the first thing that will be vanishing.

Yeah, thank God for that.  Nobody wants the free speech Trump and his enablers have been spewing.  It lead to an attempted coup.  So much for free speech.

 

P.S. Conspiracy theories about the election are down 75% after Trump was banned from social media.  Who would have guessed...not you for sure.

 

Misinformation went down after Twitter banned Trump - The Washington Post

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

Wait a minute.  That package was negotiated for 8 months.  Trump could of jumped in months ago to demand this, just like the dems did. But he didn't.

 

Anyone with half a brain cell knows this.  He came in at the end, after stopping the package from passing, then throwing this grenade in just to create chaos.  Sad you fell for it.  But yes, Mitch was also part of the problem.  Has been for years now.

I only commented that he said the GOP senators had a death wish if they didn't vote for the $2000. He was right.

The rest of what you posted is nothing to do with my comment.

[Jeffr2]

8 minutes ago, jesimps said:

Poor guy didn't stand a chance with the lefty judges, mayors, BLM, ANTIFA, the media, sports and hollywood out to get him from day one. Surprised he stuck around for one term.

What?  He started the mess.  If he just shut up and let others around him manage things, he'd still be president.  Don't deflect the blame towards others.  Trump was the top dog and should take the blame for losing.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

Yeah, thank God for that.  Nobody wants the free speech Trump and his enablers have been spewing.  It lead to an attempted coup.  So much for free speech.

 

P.S. Conspiracy theories about the election are down 75% after Trump was banned from social media.  Who would have guessed...not you for sure.

 

Misinformation went down after Twitter banned Trump - The Washington Post

If speech you don't like is restricted, there is no free speech. If one wants to restrict speech one is by definition against free speech.

Seems a lot of Americans are against free speech.

When does the book burning start?

[thaibeachlovers]

From reading this ( and other ) threads, seems that many posters only believe that democracy works if the candidate they want wins. That's not democracy, if you didn't know already.

[Chomper Higgot]

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The 2022 elections will tell the truth. Till then it's all supposition and guessing.

Are you planning on calling those wrong too?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From reading this ( and other ) threads, seems that many posters only believe that democracy works if the candidate they want wins. That's not democracy, if you didn't know already.

I must remember that when were are discussing other voted outcomes.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Are you planning on calling those wrong too?

Unlike some on here, I'm not predicting who WILL win in 2022. However mid terms are often a protest election and the Democrats can't afford to lose many seats to keep the house and the senate. Will only take a few.

Remember that the GOP didn't lose a single seat in congress this election ( that I know of ). That must worry the Dems over the next 2 years.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If speech you don't like is restricted, there is no free speech. If one wants to restrict speech one is by definition against free speech.

Seems a lot of Americans are against free speech.

When does the book burning start?

Utter nonsense.

 

Private businesses writing and then enforcing rules about what may be said on their platforms is not a restriction of free speech, it’s maintaining the terms of the contract users signed up to.

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From reading this ( and other ) threads, seems that many posters only believe that democracy works if the candidate they want wins. That's not democracy, if you didn't know already.

A supporter of the electoral college speaking out on behalf of democracy. It is to laugh.

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8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If speech you don't like is restricted, there is no free speech. If one wants to restrict speech one is by definition against free speech.

Seems a lot of Americans are against free speech.

When does the book burning start?

Maybe you should acquaint yourself with the First Amendment.

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If speech you don't like is restricted, there is no free speech. If one wants to restrict speech one is by definition against free speech.

Seems a lot of Americans are against free speech.

When does the book burning start?

We don't have freedom of speech per the constitution.  Seems some don't understand this.  Do some research.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Polls were right in 2016 (they predicted the popular vote, not EC vote) and they were right in 2020.

 

45 lost. Badly. Largest loss by an incumbent repub ever. A Landslide.

 

He leaves having lost 2 popular votes, after 2 impeachments, and after entering with an (R) Senate, (R) House and (R) WH, he leaves with a (D) WH, (D) Senate and (D) House.

 

He entered with a growing economy, falling unemployment, a declining yearly deficit, and no pandemic. He leaves in the midst of an horrific pandemic, rising unemployment, an economy in Recession, and a skyrocketing national deficit.

 

That is failure on a grand scale, an absolute humiliation.

 

45 is going to disappear like flatulence in a typhoon. It's over.

THREE conservatives on SCOTUS is not a failure. Had he done nothing else at all that is a success. He also got rid of the horrible Pacific treaty, which is a very good thing, IMO. I'd like to have seen him go harder on China, but we can't have everything we wish for.

 

BTW, he's not going to disappear- CNN will see to that. Without him to attack constantly they don't have much to keep the ad revenue coming in IMO.

[Walker88]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

THREE conservatives on SCOTUS is not a failure. Had he done nothing else at all that is a success. He also got rid of the horrible Pacific treaty, which is a very good thing, IMO. I'd like to have seen him go harder on China, but we can't have everything we wish for.

 

BTW, he's not going to disappear- CNN will see to that. Without him to attack constantly they don't have much to keep the ad revenue coming in IMO.

Several new progressive judges on an enlarged Supreme Court Bench obviates anything 45 and mcconnell did.

 

Then a Dem Senate and House can pass a law limiting SC judge size to, say, 13.

 

#WINNING

[Jeffr2]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

THREE conservatives on SCOTUS is not a failure. Had he done nothing else at all that is a success. He also got rid of the horrible Pacific treaty, which is a very good thing, IMO. I'd like to have seen him go harder on China, but we can't have everything we wish for.

 

BTW, he's not going to disappear- CNN will see to that. Without him to attack constantly they don't have much to keep the ad revenue coming in IMO.

Sad times when people think the politicization of the SCOTUS is a success.  They need to change this and get politicians out of it!  Both sides.

 

CNN reported on actions Trump took and things he said.  BS came out of him every day.  They made a mint off him.  Trump's going to disappear because he lost his platforms...POTUS and social media.  Thank god.

[Walker88]

There's a funny joke going around.....

 

"Be sure to dress warm tomorrow; forecast is for -45"

[PatOngo]

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From reading this ( and other ) threads, seems that many posters only believe that democracy works if the candidate they want wins. That's not democracy, if you didn't know already.

I thought the MAJORITY of voters decided which candidate wins!

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

There's a funny joke going around.....

 

"Be sure to dress warm tomorrow; forecast is for -45"

Funny- sure thing.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, PatOngo said:

I thought the MAJORITY of voters decided which candidate wins!

That would only apply if every voter voted. Few countries make all voters vote which leads to minority governments.

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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

THREE conservatives on SCOTUS is not a failure. Had he done nothing else at all that is a success. He also got rid of the horrible Pacific treaty, which is a very good thing, IMO. I'd like to have seen him go harder on China, but we can't have everything we wish for.

 

BTW, he's not going to disappear- CNN will see to that. Without him to attack constantly they don't have much to keep the ad revenue coming in IMO.

You keep harping on this nonsensical point. What did Trump do so that 3 seats opened up on the Supreme Court? Did he orchestrate hits on Scalia and Ginsberg? Did he threaten Kennedy in order to get him to resign?

[thaibeachlovers]

12 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

We don't have freedom of speech per the constitution.  Seems some don't understand this.  Do some research.

The constitution also gives the electoral college. Do some research.

[Phoenix Rising]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

In the future, after the mania has receded and calmer minds evaluate, Trump will be seen as a great president for all the great things he achieved in only 3 years ( the last year was basically lost to corona ) while being assailed on all sides for everything he did.

 

1. Please list "all the great things he achieved in only 3 years".

2. The last year was " lost to corona" because trump's utter incompetence turned a tragedy that could have rescued his "presidency" into the utter sh!t show we see today. He went from having a chance to create a positive legacy to cementing his spot as the worst president in history.

3. He was "assailed on all sides for everything he did" because just about everything he did was wrong, stupid and racist. Everything he ever did was for him and frack the consequences!

[PatOngo]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That would only apply if every voter voted. Few countries make all voters vote which leads to minority governments.

Voting is not compulsory in USA, another quirk in a crazy voting system. It all depends on how many get off their butts and get out and vote! Fortunately the Dems had the numbers this time around! 

[PatOngo]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The constitution also gives the electoral college. Do some research.

It would be nice if you just admitted that Trump LOST, finished, finito, gone, out, over, When will you come to terms with reality??? Or is Denial a river in Egypt?

 

 

 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by PatOngo

[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

THREE conservatives on SCOTUS is not a failure. Had he done nothing else at all that is a success. He also got rid of the horrible Pacific treaty, which is a very good thing, IMO. I'd like to have seen him go harder on China, but we can't have everything we wish for.

 

BTW, he's not going to disappear- CNN will see to that. Without him to attack constantly they don't have much to keep the ad revenue coming in IMO.

ONe of whom might not last long.