ChipButty Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 You been working under cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 9:25 PM, Sakeopete said: Sounds like the police have taken a page from the teacher's union book. If I'm not mistaken they usually complain about their members debt every couple of years asking for loans to be forgiven. The idea of paying the police a better wage is pointless. Like most civil servants in Thailand the police need to pay for their promotions I will bet much of their debt has gone there. Paying them more will not help them, it will only increase the amount they need to pay their superiors for the next promotion. Teachers have to pay , if they want to work in a prime location . Other wise , they work in the sticks , the back of beyound . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMo Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 This does not surprise me. I have been waiting for something like this ever since the police disappeared, on-mass, to "inactive duties". With hardly any police stops on the road for around 10 months, how can they be expected to pay for the little luxuries of life ? In the last 2 days I have driven through Buriram, Khon Kaen, Nakorn Ratchasima and Udon Thani provinces and, for the first time for months, have encountered police road checks. No problems. The police were very polite and correct. Other drivers were pulled to one side so presumably there were some offences committed. National Police Chief Suwat Jangyodsu's plea comes as a result of the manner in which police offices have have been required to obtain an income in order to provide a reasonable living for their family for decades. If they were adequately remunerated it would be at the expense of the government purse which would then be required to obtain the funding from the more, even most, affluent citizens and businesses (is there a differenc ?} of the country. There are obvious ways in which reforms could be implemented but they would cost those at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkiwi Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 hours ago, nasa123 said: Well well in Phuket you have some very rich police, new house to 20 million bath up. And one superintendent in Chalong have a new Mercedes to about 2,2 million bath, + u have some motorbike police bye houses around the area a living from 5 mill up, on a payment about 18000 bath each month. IMG_6719.MOVIMG_6719.MOV IMG_6109.MOV Hostels superintendent not a police superintendent, Sherlock. Not sure why the RTP insignia would be on those other doors but maybe it is a social club or something else. Conspiracies' abound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee68 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 2:17 AM, Asquith Production said: Okay what do they earn? They start off at just over 6000bt a month in training and it goes up after that to about 9000 then there's increments for the position they are in, my nephews a cop, they wont tell you much but i get bits and pieces out of him and no hes not corrupt and not got any money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo53 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 12:36 PM, fondue zoo said: How does a police chief know about the financial status of all his officers? Because he is not getting his monthly brown envelope for his subordinates promotions. Why? Because hìs subordinates have been denied their brown envelopes from all the business owners they extorted,and cash money from Joe public on bogus traffic charges etc etc, Pre Covid,maybe this will teach them a lesson,but knowing Thai's,i doubt it. Som Nam Na!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 11 hours ago, nasa123 said: Well well in Phuket you have some very rich police, new house to 20 million bath up. And one superintendent in Chalong have a new Mercedes to about 2,2 million bath, + u have some motorbike police bye houses around the area a living from 5 mill up, on a payment about 18000 bath each month. IMG_6719.MOVIMG_6719.MOV IMG_6109.MOV They don't own them, they are on loan from watch manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 11 hours ago, nasa123 said: Well well in Phuket you have some very rich police, new house to 20 million bath up. And one superintendent in Chalong have a new Mercedes to about 2,2 million bath, + u have some motorbike police bye houses around the area a living from 5 mill up, on a payment about 18000 bath each month. IMG_6719.MOVIMG_6719.MOV IMG_6109.MOV They must be good at their jobs. Only conclusion i can imagine !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waders123 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Thailand needs to step up and start paying their police officers a wage that they and their family CAN maintain a decent lifestyle on. After adjusting their wages to reflect this, it would be prudent to increase and/or implement harsher penalties for taking "brown envelopes". Decent wages would help decrease corruption. You can't ask anyone to work for peanuts and expect them not to pursue other avenues to get money for their families. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, waders123 said: Thailand needs to step up and start paying their police officers a wage that they and their family CAN maintain a decent lifestyle on. After adjusting their wages to reflect this, it would be prudent to increase and/or implement harsher penalties for taking "brown envelopes". Decent wages would help decrease corruption. You can't ask anyone to work for peanuts and expect them not to pursue other avenues to get money for their families. Yes. Paying police substandard wages is like paying a bit of protection money and then allowing the thugs to operate their franchise unfettered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rioD Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Not many tourist in the country to extort so the debt is beginning to pile up. Thai cops were previously able to live above their legally earned means because, there was always many foreigners around to extort. Now with tourist revenue gone and unavailable, they no longer have that income stream support the old lifestyles. There's no other reason they'd suddenly be broke and in debt when COVID and tourism shouldn't actually impact them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poskat Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 the military government has been putting the squeeze on the cops since they got into power. it began with the sidewalk "beautification" scheme, where removing all the vendors cut off the cops from collecting sidewalk rent the covid closures of many of the main sources of payoffs for the street level cops has only increased their financial losses. When they purchased lifestyle enhancing items over the last few years, none of them expected this regular inflow of cash to dry up suddenly with no end in site..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 13 hours ago, Catkiwi said: Hostels superintendent not a police superintendent, Sherlock. Not sure why the RTP insignia would be on those other doors but maybe it is a social club or something else. Conspiracies' abound. Having the RTP insignia on your house could well be the housing equivalent of leaving your peaked cap on the rear parcels shelf of your car. Remember, uniforms, rank and "do you know who I am" go a very long way here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeall Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 2:24 PM, asiasurfer said: A lot of nonsense on several levels. How about not spending more than you have...? Just a thought. Like kids in a candyshop.. eyes bigger.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) On 1/29/2021 at 1:04 PM, snoop1130 said: Thai cops struggling under debt totalling Bt270bn, says police chief By THE NATION Suwat Jangyodsuk Thai police officers owe a total of Bt270 billion in debts, national police chief Suwat Jangyodsuk revealed on Friday. Suwat told Thansettakij newspaper that around 209,000 officers had taken loans to support their family or to purchase large items such as cars or houses. The police chief said he has asked Krungthai Bank and the Government Savings Bank to suspend debt payments. He is also seeking ways of generating more revenue for his subordinates. One idea is to set up a market for police spouses to run businesses. Another is to look at assets confiscated by the Anti-Money Laundering Office. He added that he has contacted corporations to request scholarships for police officers’ children. Suwat also pledged to give a live internet broadcast explaining the police force’s mission and allow members of the public to question him in real time. “I will not hide anything and am ready for all questions,” he said. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30402001?utm_source=category&utm_medium=internal_referral -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2021-01-29 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Every new cop has to pay his seniors money in order to get assigned in a place where they can make some tea money, like Phuket, Pattaya, Hua hin and alike. I have heard of sums up to 5 million THB, but that was 5 years ago, don't know the current rate for Phuket. Edited February 1, 2021 by KamalaRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) No one read this line ->'Another is to look at assets confiscated by the Anti-Money Laundering Office.' I wonder how much confiscation of assets will go up? Edited February 1, 2021 by KamalaRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 minus 2 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 For a starter cops need to be paid a decent wage... ALL the countries I've had exp of, with forces that are rife with police corruption.. pay the cops poorly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 7:27 PM, richard_smith237 said: Oh no... More checkpoint, road blocks and random 'pee in a cup on the side of the street’ checks to come then ! Oh no... anyone with a competing business is going to face hassle !!!! Oh no... day light robbery as businesses are stripped of assets... “Sorry, we thought it was money laundering... no we don’t know where all your assets ended up” Simple Answers: There are too many police who do nothing, and those who could do something don’t because the system makes them lazy and they are not paid enough. Cut the numbers, raise the standards, pay them more, get them to actually police rather than do <deleted> all except direct a bit of traffic at rush hour. and just how many coppers do you think there are to cover ALL of thailand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 A post with a link to an unapproved social media site has been removed: 18) Social Media content is acceptable in most social forums. However, in factual areas such as news, current affairs and health topics, it cannot be used unless it is from a credible news media source or government agency, and must include a weblink to the original source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkiwi Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 9 hours ago, tinca tinca said: and just how many coppers do you think there are to cover ALL of thailand?? From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search Royal Thai Policeตำรวจแห่งชาติ Official Seal Coat of Arms (cap badge) Flag of the Royal Thai Police Abbreviation RTP Agency overview Formed 1860 (161 years) Jurisdictional structure National agency Thailand Operations jurisdiction Thailand General nature Local civilian police Operational structure Headquarters Pathum Wan, Bangkok, Thailand Police officers 230,000[1][2] Minister responsible General Prayut Chan-o-cha, Commander (as PM) Agency executive Police General Suwat JangyodsukCommissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau Phukphong Phongpetra Bureaus 12[show] Regional Bureaus 9[show] Website www.royalthaipolice.go.th The Royal Thai Police (RTP) (Thai: ตำรวจแห่งชาติ; RTGS: tamruat haeng chat) is the national police force of Thailand. The RTP employs between 210,700 and 230,000 officers, roughly 17 percent of all civil servants (excluding the military and the employees of state-owned enterprises).[2][3] The RTP is frequently recognized as the fourth armed force of Thailand since their tradition, concept, culture, skill, and training are relatively similar to the army and most of their officer cadets need to graduate from the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School before entering the Police Academy. Officers also undergo paramilitary training similar to the army but with an additional focus on law enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggy Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Illegal Lottery Man in Udon Thani/ Kut Chap area pays PROTECTION every month to Police, 70,000 Baht. So local BiB have no problem paying bank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 12 hours ago, Catkiwi said: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search Royal Thai Policeตำรวจแห่งชาติ Official Seal Coat of Arms (cap badge) Flag of the Royal Thai Police Abbreviation RTP Agency overview Formed 1860 (161 years) Jurisdictional structure National agency Thailand Operations jurisdiction Thailand General nature Local civilian police Operational structure Headquarters Pathum Wan, Bangkok, Thailand Police officers 230,000[1][2] Minister responsible General Prayut Chan-o-cha, Commander (as PM) Agency executive Police General Suwat JangyodsukCommissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau Phukphong Phongpetra Bureaus 12[show] Regional Bureaus 9[show] Website www.royalthaipolice.go.th The Royal Thai Police (RTP) (Thai: ตำรวจแห่งชาติ; RTGS: tamruat haeng chat) is the national police force of Thailand. The RTP employs between 210,700 and 230,000 officers, roughly 17 percent of all civil servants (excluding the military and the employees of state-owned enterprises).[2][3] The RTP is frequently recognized as the fourth armed force of Thailand since their tradition, concept, culture, skill, and training are relatively similar to the army and most of their officer cadets need to graduate from the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School before entering the Police Academy. Officers also undergo paramilitary training similar to the army but with an additional focus on law enforcement. I KNEW there were roughly 250k coppers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkiwi Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, tinca tinca said: I KNEW there were roughly 250k coppers Really, why so sensitive and typing sh@# in caps. Merely providing some facts, since you brought the rather aimless question up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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