UK had 'one or two' Brexit teething issues on fishing, minister says

[snoop1130]

UK had 'one or two' Brexit teething issues on fishing, minister says

 

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Britain has suffered “one or two teething issues” in exporting fish to the European Union after Brexit, the country’s environment minister said on Tuesday, in comments that are likely to anger fishermen struggling to trade.

 

Small fishing firms have largely failed to export their goods to Europe after the post-Brexit introduction of catch and health certificates, customs declarations and higher transport costs made trade too expensive and too slow for EU buyers.

 

“The border flows have actually been for most sectors very good,” Environment Secretary George Eustice told Times Radio. “We have had one or two teething issues on fisheries.”

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2021-02-09

 

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[robblok]

Yea its not as if the fishermen themselves know better then the government who is bias not to look foolish.

 

I do know who i believe, the fishermen not the UK government. 

 

 

[7by7]

As this whole Brexit debacle has proven, no one in our poor excuse for a government has a clue, from Boris down.

[OneMoreFarang]

We all see all these huge advantages from Brexit, more jobs, more international trade and lots of happy sovereign people. It's like Christmas for everybody.

I am sure soon those fishermen will join the rest of the happy UK.

/sarcasm off

 

[OneMoreFarang]

10 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

As this whole Brexit debacle has proven, no one in our poor excuse for a government has a clue, from Boris down.

And lets not forget that a huge majority of Brits votes for those morons. And they actually though Boris would tell them the truth. 555

[paddypower]

one or two teething problems? exports to the EU are down 68% for January. send in the clowns.....oh no!! they're here.

 

[welovesundaysatspace]

55 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Environment Secretary George Eustice told Times Radio. “We have had one or two teething issues on fisheries.”

That’s why he sent that begging letter to the EU. 

[vogie]

1 hour ago, paddypower said:

one or two teething problems? exports to the EU are down 68% for January. send in the clowns.....oh no!! they're here.

 

I wouldn't believe everything you read in the liberal remainer press. It is just more of remainer liberal spin.

 

From wicki:

"The Observer is a British newspaper published on Sundays. In the same place on the political spectrum as its sister papers The Guardian and The Guardian Weekly, whose parent company Guardian Media Group Limited acquired it in 1993, it takes a social liberal or social democratic line on most issues. First published in 1791, it is the world's oldest Sunday newspaper."

 

 

suspect that the figures reported earlier by Sky News (on 22nd January) are far closer to the mark. According to the independent logistics data company Sixfold, daily truck volumes between Britain and EU countries fell by 61% in the first few days of January (similar to the RHA figure). But they then partially recovered, leaving traffic down 29% in the first 20 days of the month compared to a year earlier (a figure which is, frankly, a lot more plausible).

What’s more, these measures are only proxies for total goods exports. The RHA is the trade association for road hauliers and 85% of goods transported within the UK are moved by road. Nonetheless, a large proportion of cross-border trade is unaccompanied freight, rather than carried on the back of a lorry, and a not insignificant amount is carried by air. The RHA figures, which seem to be based on a rather unscientific survey, may therefore not be representative of overall trade. We should really wait for comprehensive data from official sources.

But even taking the RHA numbers at face value, the Observer’s spin is misleading for three more reasons.

https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/have-uk-exports-to-the-eu-really-slumped-by-68/

 

 

[2530Ubon]

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

Small fishing firms have largely failed to export their goods to Europe

 

 “We have had one or two teething issues on fisheries.”

Failing to export goods to Europe, leaving fish rotting in trucks/harbors is one or two teething issues?

Wow. That is an understatement. Then again, what else can we expect from this sh-t show of a government?

[OneMoreFarang]

31 minutes ago, vogie said:

I wouldn't believe everything you read in the liberal remainer press. It is just more of remainer liberal spin.

 

From wicki:

"The Observer is a British newspaper published on Sundays. In the same place on the political spectrum as its sister papers The Guardian and The Guardian Weekly, whose parent company Guardian Media Group Limited acquired it in 1993, it takes a social liberal or social democratic line on most issues. First published in 1791, it is the world's oldest Sunday newspaper."

 

 

suspect that the figures reported earlier by Sky News (on 22^nd January) are far closer to the mark. According to the independent logistics data company Sixfold, daily truck volumes between Britain and EU countries fell by 61% in the first few days of January (similar to the RHA figure). But they then partially recovered, leaving traffic down 29% in the first 20 days of the month compared to a year earlier (a figure which is, frankly, a lot more plausible).

What’s more, these measures are only proxies for total goods exports. The RHA is the trade association for road hauliers and 85% of goods transported within the UK are moved by road. Nonetheless, a large proportion of cross-border trade is unaccompanied freight, rather than carried on the back of a lorry, and a not insignificant amount is carried by air. The RHA figures, which seem to be based on a rather unscientific survey, may therefore not be representative of overall trade. We should really wait for comprehensive data from official sources.

But even taking the RHA numbers at face value, the Observer’s spin is misleading for three more reasons.

https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/have-uk-exports-to-the-eu-really-slumped-by-68/

Where should we expect the truth about Brexit and Boris?

In the rightwing tabloids or more likely in the Observer and the Guardian?

The problem with Boris and Brexit is that it is a disaster. Don't blame the (left) press for reporting exactly that.

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Where should we expect the truth about Brexit and Boris?

In the rightwing tabloids or more likely in the Observer and the Guardian?

The problem with Boris and Brexit is that it is a disaster. Don't blame the (left) press for reporting exactly that.

Are you saying don't blame the left wing press for lying, is this what you're asking me, please tell me you're joking. 

[2530Ubon]

42 minutes ago, vogie said:

But even taking the RHA numbers at face value, the Observer’s spin is misleading for three more reasons.

https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/have-uk-exports-to-the-eu-really-slumped-by-68/

 

 

 

LOL. Julian Jessop - hardly an independent economist, He was the Chief Economist for the Brexit think tank IEA - A lobby group in support of Brexit.

 

Briefings for Britain is about as right wing as the BNP.

 

He also notes the following in his conclusion:

https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/have-uk-exports-to-the-eu-really-slumped-by-68/

To be fair, UK-EU trade has indeed been severely disrupted over the last few weeks. The Observer is also right to reflect the concerns of the haulage industry about what might happen after the end of the current transitional arrangements. Nonetheless, it is unlikely that UK exports to the EU fell by as anywhere near as much as 68% last month, or that this figure is a useful guide to the longer-term impact of Brexit.

 

Note the use of the word unlikely - he clearly doesn't know and is writing a puff piece to help his Brexit friends out.

[Surelynot]

50 minutes ago, vogie said:

I wouldn't believe everything you read in the liberal remainer press. It is just more of remainer liberal spin.

 

From wicki:

"The Observer is a British newspaper published on Sundays. In the same place on the political spectrum as its sister papers The Guardian and The Guardian Weekly, whose parent company Guardian Media Group Limited acquired it in 1993, it takes a social liberal or social democratic line on most issues. First published in 1791, it is the world's oldest Sunday newspaper."

 

 

suspect that the figures reported earlier by Sky News (on 22^nd January) are far closer to the mark. According to the independent logistics data company Sixfold, daily truck volumes between Britain and EU countries fell by 61% in the first few days of January (similar to the RHA figure). But they then partially recovered, leaving traffic down 29% in the first 20 days of the month compared to a year earlier (a figure which is, frankly, a lot more plausible).

What’s more, these measures are only proxies for total goods exports. The RHA is the trade association for road hauliers and 85% of goods transported within the UK are moved by road. Nonetheless, a large proportion of cross-border trade is unaccompanied freight, rather than carried on the back of a lorry, and a not insignificant amount is carried by air. The RHA figures, which seem to be based on a rather unscientific survey, may therefore not be representative of overall trade. We should really wait for comprehensive data from official sources.

But even taking the RHA numbers at face value, the Observer’s spin is misleading for three more reasons.

https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/have-uk-exports-to-the-eu-really-slumped-by-68/

 

 

.......and all the empty lorries....another fiction from the extreme left wing papers?

[vogie]

1 minute ago, 2530Ubon said:

 

LOL. Julian Jessop - hardly an independent economist, He was the Chief Economist for the Brexit think tank IEA - A lobby group in support of Brexit.

 

Briefings for Britain is about as right wing as the BNP.

 

He also notes the following in his conclusion:

https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/have-uk-exports-to-the-eu-really-slumped-by-68/

To be fair, UK-EU trade has indeed been severely disrupted over the last few weeks. The Observer is also right to reflect the concerns of the haulage industry about what might happen after the end of the current transitional arrangements. Nonetheless, it is unlikely that UK exports to the EU fell by as anywhere near as much as 68% last month, or that this figure is a useful guide to the longer-term impact of Brexit.

 

Note the use of the word unlikely - he clearly doesn't know and is writing a puff piece to help his Brexit friends out.

Do you with your hand on your heart believe those figures of 68%, especially coming from the remainer press, they might come across to a lot of people as fear mongering.

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

.......and all the empty lorries....another fiction from the extreme left wing papers?

I agree with you.

[GrandPapillon]

This is hilarious, this British government really has no clue. Told you guys you were doomed, and could not longer blame the EU for your politicians incompetence ????

 

it was clear from day 1 when Maybot showed up to the negotiating table with empty hands but a head full of "buzz words" ????

[Natai Beach]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

We all see all these huge advantages from Brexit, more jobs, more international trade and lots of happy sovereign people. It's like Christmas for everybody.

I am sure soon those fishermen will join the rest of the happy UK.

/sarcasm off

 

 

I am trying to decide what Team Boris have done worse at. Covid or Brexit? 
 

As a non Brit, it surprises me Boris is so popular. When Trump was still around Boris looked half sensible. But with Trump gone I struggle to think of a more full of it leader and is really exposed for what he is. 
 

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Natai Beach said:

As a non Brit, it surprises me Boris is so popular.

Couldn't agree more...and then look a cross the pond and Trump can garner nearly 80 million votes???.......but if people will watch Fox News and read the Express I guess it is not that surprising.

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, Natai Beach said:

I am trying to decide what Team Boris have done worse at. Covid or Brexit? 

Tricky one....good for a poll question.

[CharlieH]

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[candide]

12 minutes ago, vogie said:

Do you with your hand on your heart believe those figures of 68%, especially coming from the remainer press, they might come across to a lot of people as fear mongering.

These figures have not been created by the press, and have been corroborated by other sources, I. E.

"But Richard Ballantyne, chief executive of the British Ports Association, told the Observer that the 68 per cent figure sounded “broadly in line” with his own information."

https://www.ft.com/content/f7514242-7efd-413a-903a-e1590eef842b

Having said that, you are right to state that It's only a proxy, as part of the trade is carried by other means. So the actual figure may be lower..... or higher. 

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

These figures have not been created by the press, and have been corroborated by other sources, I. E.

"But Richard Ballantyne, chief executive of the British Ports Association, told the Observer that the 68 per cent figure sounded “broadly in line” with his own information."

https://www.ft.com/content/f7514242-7efd-413a-903a-e1590eef842b

Having said that, you are right to state that It's only a proxy, as part of the trade is carried by other means. So the actual figure may be lower..... or higher. 

I think that is the best I'll get as a fair and honest answer, so thank you, I have seen figures of traffic flowing at 90% and a lot of that is down to many things, we will have to wait and see the true figures, but I doubt very much that they will be anywhere near 68%, of course those figures may have been calculated between 10pm and 11pm one Friday morning, there is so much to take into account.

But a lot of it is the remainers acting like the grim reaper shouting 'we're all doomed' 

[2530Ubon]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Do you with your hand on your heart believe those figures of 68%, especially coming from the remainer press, they might come across to a lot of people as fear mongering.

I honestly don't know, and I wouldn't like to hazard a guess. I would agree that it sounds a bit too shocking, and perhaps a report from hauliers isn't the most reliable source. Then again, I would also believe that the government isn't listening to the industry and experts. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-exports/exports-from-uk-to-eu-down-68-since-brexit-trade-deal-say-hauliers-idUSKBN2A70G3

Quote

International members at the Road Haulage Association (RHA) reported a 68% fall in exports in January, the group said on Twitter.“I find it deeply frustrating and annoying that ministers have chosen not to listen to the industry and experts,” RHA Chief Executive Richard Burnett told The Observer newspaper

 

Edited February 9, 2021 by 2530Ubon

[2530Ubon]

57 minutes ago, Natai Beach said:

When Trump was still around Boris looked half sensible. But with Trump gone I struggle to think of a more full of it leader and is really exposed for what he is.

I'm not a Boris fan, but several names come to my mind; (alphabetically)

 

Jair Bolsonaro (Brazil)

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (Turkey)

Rodrigo Duterte (Philippines)

Vladimir Putin (Russia)

Xi Jinping (China)

 

One could argue who's more full of it, but I think Duterte or Putin has to be in it for the win. Boris is a bit too tame - more of a panderer really.

Edited February 9, 2021 by 2530Ubon

[7by7]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And lets not forget that a huge majority of Brits votes for those morons. And they actually though Boris would tell them the truth. 555

 

Actually, no; the majority of us Brits did not vote for them.

 

In 2019 the Tories received 43.6% of the vote. An increase of only 1.2% over their 2017 share; a mere 0.1% better increase than the Greens.

 

Whilst Labour's share went down by a massive 7.8%, the largest share of those lost votes went to the LibDems who increased heir share by 4.2%.

 

2019's turnout at 67.3% was also lower by 1.5% than 2017's.

 

(Source)

 

So, 43.6% of the 67.3% turnout voted for this shower. That's 29.3% of those eligible to vote. The other 70.7% either voted against them or abstained. Hardly a resounding endorsement, but that's the way our first past the post system works. We had the chance to change it in 2011; but chose not to.

[7by7]

1 hour ago, Natai Beach said:

As a non Brit, it surprises me Boris is so popular.

 

Opinion polls suggest that he isn't.

 

See Boris Johnson approval rating for example. On 18th January 2021, in answer to the question "Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?" 39% said "Yes," while 55% said "Yes."

 

Not a great fan of opinion polls myself; but Brexiteers were very fond of them until the results started to go against them!

[Natai Beach]

1 hour ago, 2530Ubon said:

I'm not a Boris fan, but several names come to my mind; (alphabetically)

 

Jair Bolsonaro (Brazil)

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (Turkey)

Rodrigo Duterte (Philippines)

Vladimir Putin (Russia)

Xi Jinping (China)

 

One could argue who's more full of it, but I think Duterte or Putin has to be in it for the win. Boris is a bit too tame - more of a panderer really.

 

Those blokes above are all full of it in a different way. Smart, shrewd, ruthless leading hardcore countries with long term plans and goals and personally cashing in big time. 

Boris is full of it in the way that he just makes it up as he goes, backflips easily and sugar coats and talks up everything as if he is doing a good job with Brexit and the Covid situation etc and will only admit any negatives if he thinks he can spin it in a way that suits him. 
 And is struggling a bit financially on his salary with his kids to various mothers.
 

Just slogans and spin, no results.

[Hi from France]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Actually, no; the majority of us Brits did not vote for them.

 

In 2019 the Tories received 43.6% of the vote. An increase of only 1.2% over their 2017 share; a mere 0.1% better increase than the Greens.

 

Whilst Labour's share went down by a massive 7.8%, the largest share of those lost votes went to the LibDems who increased heir share by 4.2%.

 

2019's turnout at 67.3% was also lower by 1.5% than 2017's.

 

(Source)

without the "first pass the post" system, things would be very different..

 

as far as brexit is concerned, we would have a softer brexit with a more "normal" government in power instead of these idiots ?

[Hi from France]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Opinion polls suggest that he isn't.

 

See Boris Johnson approval rating for example. On 18th January 2021, in answer to the question "Do you think that Boris Johnson is doing well or badly as Prime Minister?" 39% said "Yes," while 55% said "Yes."

you mean

 

[nkg]

5 hours ago, Hi from France said:

without the "first pass the post" system, things would be very different..

 

as far as brexit is concerned, we would have a softer brexit with a more "normal" government in power instead of these idiots ?

 

Whereas you elected a weirdo who married his teacher.

Edited February 9, 2021 by nkg