Who cares about Mr. Irrelevant anymore? 

 

Now, with the permanent ban on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, he is almost a 305lb. zero. Almost. I predict his influence will continue to wane. 

 

Nearly anything with Trump's name on it, and his association with it, has failed. And that will be even more so, now that he has been ousted from the White House. His name will likely remain radioactive, for the rest of his life, and his mini empire will continue to dwindle.

 

He lost 17 major businesses. He lost 19 merchandising deals, since being elected. He lost the trade war with China, and the negotiations with Kim. Few like a loser. 

Trump was the worst president America ever had

Trump 2024! Taking donations to build that wall! Also, for a recount! Come on folks, make America great again! Don't worry Steve Bannon has been pardoned.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Really? Remember a fella named George W. Bush. 2 disasters occurred on his watch: the 2nd  Iraq War and the near-collapse of the US economy. So, naturally his current favorability ratings stayed really low, right?

George W. Bush has turned his unpopularity upside down.

Six in 10 Americans, 61%, say they now have a favorable view of the 43rd President of the United States in the latest CNN poll conducted by SSRS, nearly double the 33% who gave him a favorable mark when he left the White House in January 2009.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/george-w-bush-favorable-poll/index.html

 

Of course, Bush knows how to behave politely and decently in public. That and the tendency for bad memories to fade over time has helped him immensely. It's apparent that Trump is incapable of behaving politely and decently. So reporting on his behavior should help keep his favorability low and the memory of his dismal record strong.

 

Bush has a more friendly style. However, he also abused people's credulity and may well have been worse than Trump. A fake war ranks much higher on the scam meter than anything Trump did.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Not neo-con, who were very prointervention and loathe Trump. But why form a new party? This is the real face of the Republican party now and has been for years. It's just that previous candidates and presidents knew who to dissimulate.

I think his non-intervention was disrupted by his unexpected departure. Building up the military and surrounded by neocons like Pompeo and Navarro, I am sure he is trying to creat a new world order. I do agree that Trump need not form a new party at the moment as he still have massive support from his own party and his people. It may be up to other party politicians to determine exactly what that means. 

 

Sorry, who again? The subject no longer exists in my reality. I leave it to the US judicial system to deal with he and his ilk.

He's back! 4 More years

11 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

He will have  big TV ratings for his speech. People will watch to see the show. The cult will not go quietly.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/22/trump-cpac-republican-presumptive-2024-nominee

3 hours ago, TheFishman1 said:

Trump was the worst president America ever had

But the most honest one!

11 hours ago, Neeranam said:

70 million+ US people would disagree with you. 

 

 

Nah, most Republicans have finally found out the guy is going to jail.

11 minutes ago, Nout said:

But the most honest one!

Some people mistake truthiness for honesty:

Truthiness is the belief or assertion that a particular statement is true based on the intuition or perceptions of some individual or individuals, without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts.^[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness

 

15 minutes ago, Nout said:

But the most honest one!

Only in alternative reality world.

2 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

Sorry, who again? The subject no longer exists in my reality. I leave it to the US judicial system to deal with he and his ilk.

 

 

You got it right.  Just came out that Trump has to turn over tax returns to a New York prosecutor:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-taxes-vance/index.html

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

 

Well, he's back in the spotlight now.  Just maybe not the way he wants.  

31 minutes ago, helpisgood said:

 

 

You got it right.  Just came out that Trump has to turn over tax returns to a New York prosecutor:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-taxes-vance/index.html

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

 

Well, he's back in the spotlight now.  Just maybe not the way he wants.  

And the Feds, and Congress, even the new Senate. 

 

53 minutes ago, helpisgood said:

 

 

You got it right.  Just came out that Trump has to turn over tax returns to a New York prosecutor:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-taxes-vance/index.html

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

 

Well, he's back in the spotlight now.  Just maybe not the way he wants.  

Ouch

2 hours ago, Nout said:

But the most honest one!

You're half right.

 

9 hours ago, Berkshire said:

55555....too funny.  He terrifies Republicans more than any Democrat.  And he's not back.  He's never coming back.  Trump is a loser and will forever be a loser. 

 

He will be back.  In court.

https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns-manhattan-disrict-attorney-vance-2021-2

 

 

8 hours ago, Nout said:

But the most honest one!

Delusional. Big time! Stunning anyone would post that except to troll. I sure hope that's the case.

From what we have seen so far from Biden I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans made some gains in the mid-terms, Trump or no Trump.

3 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

From what we have seen so far from Biden I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans made some gains in the mid-terms, Trump or no Trump.

You do know repubs are leaving the party in the tens of thousands.

 

What have you seen so far from biden?

36 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

From what we have seen so far from Biden I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans made some gains in the mid-terms, Trump or no Trump.

You mean reducing the number of covid cases and deaths? Rejoining the Paris accord to try and save the world? Creating the most diverse cabinet perhaps in history?

 

Or the best, not telling multiple lies to us every day?

 

Please expand on your opinion.

40 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

From what we have seen so far from Biden I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans made some gains in the mid-terms, Trump or no Trump.

Oh please elaborate lol 

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

From what we have seen so far from Biden I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans made some gains in the mid-terms, Trump or no Trump.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/03/biden-1point9-trillion-covid-relief-plan-has-wide-support-poll-finds.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/thirds-americans-approve-bidens-covid-19-response-poll/story?id=75729815

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

From what we have seen so far from Biden I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans made some gains in the mid-terms, Trump or no Trump.

What, exactly, have you seen?  Fox or OAN?

 

 

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

From what we have seen so far from Biden I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans made some gains in the mid-terms, Trump or no Trump.

Do you mean competence? Empathy? A strong work ethic? Reestablishing the world's respect for the US? Getting upwards of 1.7 million Americans vaccinated per day?

 

I can certainly understand why any of those would be anathema to people who supported the lazy, incompetent, self-serving, psychopathic, corrupt, mendacious clown that was the former (ostensible) leader.

 

By this time in his admin, the former had already taken a few trips to his garish place in FL at a cost to the US Taxpayer, according to CBO, of just under $7 million. By the time his abomination ended, just his golf had cost the US Taxpayer $150 million.

 

President Biden's approval rating is already higher than the highest level the last guy ever reached.  If Covid is under control by 2022 and the economy bottoms out, Dems are likely to crush the soon-to-be-split (R) Party in the midterms, building majorities in both the House and Senate. The new SAM Party, if it forms and posts candidates in 2022, will cannibalize from existing (R)s and leave the former guy with the QAnons and conspiratorialists, and additionally aiding (D) candidates. Given the fact primaries take place, and that those genuflecting to the former guy are likely to win (R) primaries, (D)s are going to have an easy time, just painting their opponent as a coup-supporting QAnon type, which most likely all (R) candidates will be.  That might be a solid base, but it is not a large enough base to win the majority in a vote.

 

The former guy will turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to (D)s, as his continued presence will insure they just continue to grow their majority.

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Do you mean competence? Empathy? A strong work ethic? Reestablishing the world's respect for the US? Getting upwards of 1.7 million Americans vaccinated per day?

 

I can certainly understand why any of those would be anathema to people who supported the lazy, incompetent, self-serving, psychopathic, corrupt, mendacious clown that was the former (ostensible) leader.

 

By this time in his admin, the former had already taken a few trips to his garish place in FL at a cost to the US Taxpayer, according to CBO, of just under $7 million. By the time his abomination ended, just his golf had cost the US Taxpayer $150 million.

 

President Biden's approval rating is already higher than the highest level the last guy ever reached.  If Covid is under control by 2022 and the economy bottoms out, Dems are likely to crush the soon-to-be-split (R) Party in the midterms, building majorities in both the House and Senate. The new SAM Party, if it forms and posts candidates in 2022, will cannibalize from existing (R)s and leave the former guy with the QAnons and conspiratorialists, and additionally aiding (D) candidates. Given the fact primaries take place, and that those genuflecting to the former guy are likely to win (R) primaries, (D)s are going to have an easy time, just painting their opponent as a coup-supporting QAnon type, which most likely all (R) candidates will be.  That might be a solid base, but it is not a large enough base to win the majority in a vote.

 

The former guy will turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to (D)s, as his continued presence will insure they just continue to grow their majority.

Oh come on, must give trump credit where it is due. He reduced his golf handicap.

14 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Oh come on, must give trump credit where it is due. He reduced his golf handicap.

By executive order.

Are there any US prisons where the inmates can play golf?

 

 

22 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Because the guy they hate has been beaten, there is no need for them to obsess anymore. 

 

Maybe try to read the OP before posting. Trump sees himself as a contender.

On 2/22/2021 at 9:42 AM, Berkshire said:

Trump is basically embarking on a destroy-the-Republican-Party campaign.  I hope he succeeds.  America needs to be rid of Trump and his enablers.

 

Be careful what you wish for. A split GOP could mean many things. Not all of them great on a national or social level. At some states it might be especially problematic. IMO, one major functions of the GOP was to sort of tone down the crazies and extremists. Giving them a roof while telling them not to make so much noise. Granted this sorta went out the window with Trump, but would rather see it go back to the same-old rather than going full retard or giving rise to "parties" which are basically platforms for extremists.

 

Also, if the GOP fractures, it might in turn effect the Democratic Party. If there's no big bad wolf, why stay united? If "they" (meaning right-wing extremists) are setting up shop, why can't "we" (left wing extremists) do the same?

 

Maybe a such fundamental changes to the USA's political landscape are good, long term. Maybe they are even necessary. Doesn't mean the process will be painless.

5 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

You mean reducing the number of covid cases and deaths?

Biden, from my memory never started wearing a mask until May!!

Not very bright for a man nearly 80.