Biden says he plans to run for re-election in 2024

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

in other civilized democracies, very rare anyone is allowed really to run for high office over mid 50’s.

yet vigourous US elects & tolerates this senile loon as nominal President - For - Life, banana republic style. Zero real achievements in 50 years in office / senate, painfully incompetent = 80 million anti-trump voters…….western democracy depends on rational informed choices; clearly  Broken by collective human madness…again….. we cannot long survive as a species……

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

many deluded “ Democrat” fans here. Democrats have DESTROYED America from within since mid 60’s.Prior to which they supported Slavery , Civil War & KKK…….Made most Blacks dependent on Welfare.Now champions of Open Borders, Globalism & Anti - White Hatred. Despicable “ Leaders” like the Clintons, Kamala, Booker, the Communist Sanders & Squad, etc. and yet 80 million voters…..

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

You are joking, I hope. 

Sadly, he's not. That's the typical thoughts from Trump's hard core supporters. And ones who only read the fake news right wing media outlets.

[Jeffr2]

11 minutes ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

many deluded “ Democrat” fans here. Democrats have DESTROYED America from within since mid 60’s.Prior to which they supported Slavery , Civil War & KKK…….Made most Blacks dependent on Welfare.Now champions of Open Borders, Globalism & Anti - White Hatred. Despicable “ Leaders” like the Clintons, Kamala, Booker, the Communist Sanders & Squad, etc. and yet 80 million voters…..

Good gosh. Not a Clue. Most voters are independents.

[GrandPapillon]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

The question shouldn't be "Will joe run in 2024"  

 

The question is "Will joe make it till 2024" or will he have to face the fact that he isn't up to the job.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/anxious-staffers-mute-bidens-remarks-report

he has been known before for being "unpredictable" with his comments, even under the Obama presidency, but got a free pass because he wasn't important and Obama was taking all the spotlight

 

his staff are starting to see a darker side of him, and he is going to be a public liability soon like GW Bush

 

The Fall of Afghanistan is the 9/11 moment of Joe Biden,

 

like GW Bush, he dismissed intel about the attacks, and to make things worse, he cut all funding to the Afghanistan government and the army when he realized that the Talibans will take over in a few weeks (and it was actually only days), which resulted in unpaid military personnel to leave their jobs en masse to flee and protect their families instead.

 

a perfect sh*t storm, well done Joe ????

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

Sadly, he's not. That's the typical thoughts from Trump's hard core supporters. And ones who only read the fake news right wing media outlets.

Why is that all you Biden supporters dont like to talk about Biden and you keep going on about his predecessor ?

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

Citing Facts = Clueless= Democrat Denial.

Voting for Biden = Anyone But Trump= Not Independent.

Independent = Voting Indy Candidate or Abstaining.

[GrandPapillon]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why is that all you Biden supporters dont like to talk about Biden and you keep going on about his predecessor ?

because they have no valid arguments to defend their boy, Joe ????

 

very typical MO of intellectual dishonesty,

 

How can they defend that guy is unbelievable ????

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

Real Question : Will Biden make it to 2022 ?

Republican : Conservative, Realistic, Practical, Patriotic, Factual, Public Servant, Consensual, Women Respected…..Democratic, Constitution & Rights.Arm Population. Hate Dictators. Disdain Liberal MSM.

Democrat : Facts & Reason are Racist, Loud Nonsense Opinions Repeated Often = Multiple “Truths”,

Public Ruler, People are Stupid ( and Racist, well only Whites) & Must be Compelled.Women Erased. 

Use term “ Birthing / Menstruating People”. Have No Idea how Stupid that looks….. Not Remotely Democratic. Anti - Constitution. Disarm Population. Dictator Friends. Believe & Contribute to MSM.

 

could go on……

[Chomper Higgot]

36 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

he has been known before for being "unpredictable" with his comments, even under the Obama presidency, but nobody care because he wasn't important

 

his staff are starting to see a darker side of him, and he is going to be a public liability soon like GW Bush

 

The Fall of Afghanistan is the 9/11 moment of Joe Biden,

 

like GW Bush, he dismissed intel about the fall, and to make things worse, he cut all funding to the Afghanistan government and the army when he realized that the Talibans will take over in a few weeks (and it was actually only days), which resulted in unpaid military personnel to leave their jobs en masse to flee and protect their families instead.

 

a perfect sh*t storm, well done Joe ????

And yet, that’s it how the majority of Americans view Biden’s handling of the withdrawal:

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/08/31/majority-of-u-s-public-favors-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal-biden-criticized-for-his-handling-of-situation/

 

By the mid terms Afghanistan will be a small irrelevant footnote.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

39 minutes ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

Real Question : Will Biden make it to 2022 ?

Republican : Conservative, Realistic, Practical, Patriotic, Factual, Public Servant, Consensual, Women Respected…..Democratic, Constitution & Rights.Arm Population. Hate Dictators. Disdain Liberal MSM.

Democrat : Facts & Reason are Racist, Loud Nonsense Opinions Repeated Often = Multiple “Truths”,

Public Ruler, People are Stupid ( and Racist, well only Whites) & Must be Compelled.Women Erased. 

Use term “ Birthing / Menstruating People”. Have No Idea how Stupid that looks….. Not Remotely Democratic. Anti - Constitution. Disarm Population. Dictator Friends. Believe & Contribute to MSM.

 

could go on……

Please don’t.

 

That string of incoherent rambling was quite enough thank you.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet, that’s it how the majority of Americans view Biden’s handling of the withdrawal:

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/08/31/majority-of-u-s-public-favors-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal-biden-criticized-for-his-handling-of-situation/

 

By the mid terms Afghanistan will be a small irrelevant footnote.

 

 

Yes, 

*That happened five  years ago * ,

will be his response when asked about it next year

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, 

*That happened five  years ago * ,

will be his response when asked about it next year

I suspect it won’t be the topic of discussion next year.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suspect it won’t be the topic of discussion next year.

The people/voters who have lost confidence in his leadership over the issue , will he be able to regain their confidence ?

   The Delta variant is spiking in the USA , unemployment benefit is being cut/reduced for 7.5 Million Americans and jobs aren't being created . 

   And the money burrowed to pay for Covid will have to be paid back .

   I expect Afghanistan wont be top priority in the coming years , although it wont be forgotten 

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why is that all you Biden supporters dont like to talk about Biden and you keep going on about his predecessor ?

Why do all you Trump supporters think anyone who dislikes him supports Biden. Terrible ASSumption. Again, most voters are independents.

 

But had to forget 4 years of lies and corruption with Trump.

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

Citing Facts = Clueless= Democrat Denial.

Voting for Biden = Anyone But Trump= Not Independent.

Independent = Voting Indy Candidate or Abstaining.

Wrong. Do some research. Please.

[nauseus]

12 hours ago, ozimoron said:

The chart very clearly shows a continuation of a trend line of falling unemployment established under the Obama regime and continued into the Trump regime. The fact that there was absolutely no deviation of the trend line gradient shows that the continued reduction in unemployment was in no way due to Trump's policies. The first chart does show that the number of jobs created following the disastrous GFC crash, caused by Bush banking policies, rose sharply in the second year of Obama's administration and continued to rise generally but then declined under Trump's administration.

 

To suggest that Trump was a better manager of the economy is a flat out lie and that point is adequately addressed by those two charts. To repeat, when a trend line gradient does not change after a change of administration, it has NOTHING to do with the policies of the new administration. Republicans love to point to lower unemployment under Trump but willfully neglect to admit that it was a product of the policies of an Obama administration and a healthy economy which was inherited by the Trump administration. The falling job creations under Trump tell the real story. Average job growth in the US is approx. 230,000 new jobs per month.

 

The collapse in employment under Trump following covid was largely down to the mishandling of the pandemic by Trump as proven by the fact that the pandemic is still very bad but job growth has resumed under a democrat administration. Bottom line, Trump was a disaster for the economy and for the pandemic. The US notably had one of the worst outcomes in the world under Trump, a disgrace for what is probably the country most capable of handling a pandemic.

 

Trump's abuse of Fauci and the head of the CDC demonstrates this point

 

In a television interview Sunday, President Joe Biden’s new CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, accused the Trump administration of silencing the agency as it looked to downplay the severity of the Covid-19 pandemic, echoing sentiments Dr. Anthony Fauci expressed last week. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/01/24/cdc-director-agency-was-muzzled-under-trump/?sh=7c845f116fed

✋ Regarding unemployment - if Trump really continued Obama's policies (don't think so) then that was still his decision and so was his policy. Whatever happened, the 2017 - 2020 unemployment data (until Covid) were Trump's.

 

✋ Individual Presidents rarely have full control of all financial and monetary policies and the way commercial and investment banks behave (mortgage-backed securities out of control). The 2008 GFC was further enabled by several factors, over at least 20 years - one of these was the repealing of the Glass-Steagall legislation (under Clinton). 

 

✋ Why does a suggestion have to be a lie? Obama benefitted from the easy-money policies of the Federal Reserve for the whole of his presidency. Trump was hampered by a temporary reversal of that policy from 2017-19. Strange timing that, eh?

 

✋ There was no collapse in employment under Trump pre Covid. There were no vaxes widely available until this year and that is the reason for job recovery - I'm surprised that you missed that.

 

✋ Fauci? Cumon, man!

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

Why do all you Trump supporters think anyone who dislikes him supports Biden. Terrible ASSumption. Again, most voters are independents.

 

But had to forget 4 years of lies and corruption with Trump.

I do believe that many people voted against Trump, rather than voting for Biden . 

   They didnt necessarily want Biden to win, they just wanted Trump to lose 

[nauseus]

29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suspect it won’t be the topic of discussion next year.

That's what Joe and you hope anyways.

[nauseus]

55 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And yet, that’s it how the majority of Americans view Biden’s handling of the withdrawal:

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/08/31/majority-of-u-s-public-favors-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal-biden-criticized-for-his-handling-of-situation/

 

By the mid terms Afghanistan will be a small irrelevant footnote.

 

 

Selective again?

 

From the link at foot:

 

Several recent polls support this conclusion. The NBC News poll shows 25% of Americans approve of the way Biden is handling the Afghanistan situation. The CBS News poll finds 74% say the removal of the troops has been handled badly by the U.S. and 67% say that Biden did not have a clear plan for evacuating American civilians. An Aug. 13-16 Morning Consult/Politico poll shows that 31% of registered voters approve of Biden's handling of Afghanistan, while 57% say (at the time of the poll) that the withdrawal is not going well. And the USA Today/Suffolk poll shows a 27% approval rating for Biden's handling of Afghanistan.

 

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/354182/american-public-opinion-afghanistan-situation.aspx

[nauseus]

8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I do believe that many people voted against Trump, rather than voting for Biden . 

   They didnt necessarily want Biden to win, they just wanted Trump to lose 

Could be. A shame really, as we see now.

[nauseus]

11 hours ago, LarrySR said:

I'm confused....Your information contradicts Trumps claim that he "brought jobs back" when in fact the charts show that job growth began to decline after he took office.  Unemployment only dropped a further 1.2% under Trump following Obamas 5.5%.

(By the way, I noticed Biden unemployment already dropping 1.5%, beating Trump. You could say Joe is making America great again.)

 

And Trumps claim he oversaw the "greatest economy in history" was actually a below average economy he goosed with zero interest rates & by running up the greatest deficits in history, before running the country into the ground with his incomprehensible handling of a pandemic, leaving office with the worst economic conditions since 1929.

 

Are you saying Trump lied and Fox went along spreading bad information to their viewers?

 

I'm beginning to think the only thing Trump was ever successful at was pretending to be successful on a fantasy television show. 

 

Most of your claims above are false and misleading.

[Jeffr2]

13 minutes ago, nauseus said:

✋ Regarding unemployment - if Trump really continued Obama's policies (don't think so) then that was still his decision and so was his policy. Whatever happened, the 2017 - 2020 unemployment data (until Covid) were Trump's.

 

✋ Individual Presidents rarely have full control of all financial and monetary policies and the way commercial and investment banks behave (mortgage-backed securities out of control). The 2008 GFC was further enabled by several factors, over at least 20 years - one of these was the repealing of the Glass-Steagall legislation (under Clinton). 

 

✋ Why does a suggestion have to be a lie? Obama benefitted from the easy-money policies of the Federal Reserve for the whole of his presidency. Trump was hampered by a temporary reversal of that policy from 2017-19. Strange timing that, eh?

 

✋ There was no collapse in employment under Trump pre Covid. There were no vaxes widely available until this year and that is the reason for job recovery - I'm surprised that you missed that.

 

✋ Fauci? Cumon, man!

Anyone who bashes Fauci has fallen for the right wing fake news.

[Jeffr2]

12 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I do believe that many people voted against Trump, rather than voting for Biden . 

   They didnt necessarily want Biden to win, they just wanted Trump to lose 

Exactly. They were not Biden supporters nor democrats. Thank you.

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Most of your claims above are false and misleading.

Same could be said for yours.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

Does it matter? Nobody is indispensable. Kamala Harris would make a decent president anyway, time for the US to finally get a woman in the job.

 

Yeah, nah, I'm oblivious to that. One thing I do know is that good presidents listen to expert advice and act on that advice, a wisdom which completely evaded Trump.

Harris would be yet another liability. Where she go anyway?

 

Expert advice only works when you are surrounded by experts - Biden seems to have missed that too - the botched departure from Afghanistan is the saddest and clearest example of this.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

You're lying. It defies common sense to believe he used those terms you attribute to him.At best, you are paraphrasing him.

Uh oh!

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

1. she served as a United States senator from California from 2017 to 2021

2. as the attorney general of California from 2011 to 2017

3. Harris graduated from Howard University and the University of California, Hastings College of the Law

 

It's interesting that you challenge her qualifications for leadership but not Trump's who never held an elected position, was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and had a number of his companies go bankrupt, damaging countless people in the process as well as having to pay 25 million to settle claims against his fraudulent university. Not to mention the rampant cronyism which characterized his administration and the large number of his inner circle who have either been indicted or convicted of criminality.

 

Back to Trump again - in a flash! Where is Kamala Harris anyway? 

[nauseus]

11 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Same could be said for yours.

Frequently said but never proven. Next.

[3NUMBAS]

theres talk of him being unfit to complete his  present term of   office let along another term..