rabas Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Beyond that many hospitals/clinics have run out of tests. And the price of upwards of 4500 for a test is discouraging anyone who's showing symptoms to test. What happened to any of Anutins, pryut, or the rest of the governments preparation for a worse case scenario? Testing is free. Testing has always been free if you have symptoms, have been exposed, travelled in high risk areas.
Excel Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, crazykopite said: Wait till next week there will be 1,000s infected all because the government allowed millions of people to travel home for SONGKRAN absolute madness More likely 2000+ and yet there will be still the 5th columnists on this forum supporting this government, or what pretence of a government there is. Edited April 11, 2021 by Excel
Popular Post Phaser Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 No real vaccine program with quality vaccines so the country remains at risk and vulnerable.....great planning 4
MrJ2U Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: There won’t to any Tourists coming to Thailand to spend and pay for even 7 days in quarantine. And then return to most countries for a 14 day quarantine because nobody is vaccinated in Thailand or even tested. 1
John Drake Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Government health officials are saying the current virus strain circulating in Thailand right now is showing a somewhat different set of typical symptoms, as follows: https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157943124077050 Great. I have these symptoms most of the time anyway. 2
rabas Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, cyril sneer said: I feel sleepy Can you close your eyes and smell the difference between lemon and orange? 1
crazykopite Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, sandyf said: Exactly, and time people learned to live with the reality. At what point in time do you place a bet, as soon as you see the names or after seeing some form. The UK with it's financial strength place bets on 7 runners as soon as the names were available, added another bet on Moderna once some form was established. Good chance of a result if you back most of the field. The thing that many do not want to acknowledge is that Thailand does not have the same financial resources as the major economies. They had to be a bit more considerate and multiple selections were not a prudent option. Back in October when they made the selection, available form at the time indicated that AZ was a fairly sound each way bet and that continues to be the case. There is nothing to suggest that the agreement to manufacture AZ vaccine will not happen as scheduled. What has upset the apple cart is supply problems with the initial deliveries that had been purchased from AZ and the possible adverse effect on platlet count. In an attempt to offset the delays Thailand has looked to the Chinese vaccine in the interim period. Whether that was the best option available nobody will ever know, as the situation with other vaccine in terms of approval, pricing and delivery schedule will always be an unknown. Of course the experts on this forum will always see it as being wrong. Very true they would rather spend the money on high speed trains and second hand submarines all supplied at a very expensive cost by the Chinese Regime whilst people are hungry ,committing suicide on a daily bases due to being unemployed and having huge debts
Popular Post MrJ2U Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, rabas said: Testing is free. Testing has always been free if you have symptoms, have been exposed, travelled in high risk areas. Free if you can get a doctor to ok a test they likely don't have. They also must contact Bangkok for an ok. Its harder than getting a refund from Thai Airways! Edited April 11, 2021 by onthedarkside personal comments removed 1 3
Popular Post Walter Travolta Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) I like to make my judgements on what I see too and over the past year I have seen over reactions everywhere I look. Not just over reactions, but totally contradictory messages in dealing with it, and some ridiculous and conflicting decisions based on nothing. 1) 10pm curfews - ridiculous 2) Allowed in restaurants and markets but not bars - contradictory and ridiculous 3) Over reactions to a small outbreak of cases (in the grand scheme) 4) A killer disease so bad that we are only advised to wear a mask and hand gel 5) Locking down the world and killing economies and jobs all for a virus that has around a 1% death rate - ridiculous 6) Always a spike when there is a holiday due with the possibility of people finally enjoying themselves - dubious at best Edited April 11, 2021 by onthedarkside quote of hidden post removed 7 1 2 2
Bkk Brian Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, tgw said: the news says "new strains", saying the South African was one of them I suggest you copy and paste the exact quote where it says AZ is ineffective against new strains. Because all you're doing here is spreading false accusations, is there a reason for this? I've read the article you linked to, in no part does it mention that. Put up or admit its false.................. 1
onthedarkside Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 An anti-Chinese rant post and several trolling posts have been removed. Please try to stay on topic here, which is: Thailand reports daily record 967 new coronavirus infections
ukrules Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 4 hours ago, HOAX said: Good luck to Thailand if they're going to hospitalize everyone with Covid. Wouldn't surprise me though knowing people here goes to hospital to get drip and antibiotics just for a runny nose. This is what they've been doing so far but it will soon end with say 5 to 10 thousand cases overall, never mind when it reaches that level per day - we will never know anyway as they won't be testing that many. 2
Popular Post Blaxland Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) I was in the US when the Pandemic kicked off and got home to Australia shortly after.Australia has done approx 12.5 mill Covid tests with a population of 25.5 mill or just under 50%. Thailand has reportedly done 3 mill tests with a population of 66 mill or around 5 % of population. Testing is free in Australia and reported here yesterday that THB1500 per test in a Public Hospital or THB3000 in a Private facility. With a workers base wage not much more than THB 300 it would be highly unlikely for them to spend a weeks wage on a test even if they are ill.Actual cases reported would be mostly people who have presented as sick with no allowance for those who are asymptotic but still infected. I can’t but help feel unfortunately the worst is yet to come.Praying I am wrong. Was looking forward to getting back to Thailand but realistically think that will be at least another 12 months. Edited April 11, 2021 by Blaxland 5
DLock Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 57 minutes ago, mick01827 said: Who says they're in hospital? All positive tests must be admitted into hospital. That's why some hospitals in BKK have stopped testing...not because they don't have the test kits, but because if a person tests positive, they must admit them, and they don't have the bed capacity...so they stop testing. In Chiang Mai's case, there are several hospitals that probably also have COVID patients, but sooner or later (probably sooner), if things continue as they are now, bed capacity will be overrun... 1
ukrules Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, bradiston said: Source? Don't worry, it's utter BS.
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 52 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said: Wow sounds serious It certainly can be, if you end up being one of the unfortunate ones... Just ask this guy his opinion: Samut Sakhon governor released from hospital after severe Covid-19 infection "After a severe Covid-19 infection, governor of Samut Sakhon, the epicentre of the recent outbreak in Thailand, was released from the hospital after nearly 3 months of treatment. The virus negatively affected Governor Veerasak Vichitsangsri’s lung function and led to a bacterial infection. During his treatment, he was on a ventilator for 42 days and, at one point, he was not able to speak. Veerasak is also diagnosed with cerebrovascular disease which affects blood flow to the brain. In earlier reports, doctors said that the governor’s brain had been affected by the bacterial infection which was also destroying some of his lung tissue." (more) https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/samut-sakhon-governor-released-from-hospital-after-severe-covid-19-infection 1
Yewbzee Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 This is going to explode after songkran. Total loss of control is just around the corner on this. 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, rabas said: Testing is free. Testing has always been free if you have symptoms, have been exposed, travelled in high risk areas. I wish that was the case but in reality its not, a teacher at an international school in Phuket recently tested positive, he was at school teaching for 2 days before it was discovered. As a result more than 70 students in the age group he taught needed to be tested along with 20 or more teachers, they all had to pay over 2,500 each and this was at a Government hospital, it would have been more at a Private. 3 students have so far been found positive and results await on around 30 more. The children who have tested positive, their parents and siblings now also have to pay for the test. EDIT: just looked at the email they sent me and it was free test for Thai's but for the foreign students, teachers and parents they had to pay, the foreigners are all actually the majority being an international school. Edited April 11, 2021 by Bkk Brian 1 1
geisha Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The strain of Covid-19 found in Thailand among visitors to entertainment venues in Bangkok has the spike pattern that matches perfectly with the Cambodia strain. Chulalongkorn University virology specialist Dr Yong Poovorawan said the latest strain does not match 100% with the British or other strains, but displays a 100% match with the Cambodia strain. The Cambodia strain had been found spreading in Cambodia about 6 weeks before it was detected in Thailand. From this data, it is conclusive that the latest wave at entertainment venues is related to the Cambodia strain of the virus. https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157942846797050 Hi, where do you see the news of a new Cambodian virus which is not the UK or any other varient ? All the variants declared so far have been UK originating from Chinese and Indian arrivals in Feb / March.
Toscano Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 I have not seen any indication of where the concentration of COVID infection lies , Bangkok , Pattaya , southeastern region ? I live in northeastern Isaan , we have never had any people infected in my village or surrounding rural area . 1
Cake Monster Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: How can you now track and trace when the population has just spread out all over Thailand for Songkran. I don't see this slowing or the holiday ending well in regards to covid. Just saw on the news a child being taken away by ambulance after testing positive This is one of the sadder sides to this UK Variant of Covid, Apparently, it has a higher infection rate among Children and younger people than the " original Virus ". I also think its time to forget the track and trace, and concentrate on more mass testing. But in order to do that there have to be many more than the estimated 300,000-400,000 test kits that are available Nationally. Thats only enough for 150,000 people ( 2 tests each ), and at the pace in which this outbreak is going, that is only enough for about 8-10 days ( allowing for outbreak spread ). No test KIts No Vaccines No proper Hospital Beds The Thai people seem to be thrown under a Bus
ThailandRyan Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Toscano said: I have not seen any indication of where the concentration of COVID infection lies , Bangkok , Pattaya , southeastern region ? I live in northeastern Isaan , we have never had any people infected in my village or surrounding rural area . Standby for a case to arrive with the SongKran travelers, if your lucky your location will not have any visitors nor will it have the virus invade. Stay safe. 1
ukrules Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, rabas said: Testing is free. Testing has always been free if you have symptoms, have been exposed, travelled in high risk areas. Not only is it free but I believe it's compulsory, if you've been exposed then you're getting tested and treated and perhaps quarantined even if you test negative - there is no choice involved. 1 1
rabas Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: I wish that was the case but in reality its not, a teacher at an international school in Phuket recently tested positive, he was at school teaching for 2 days before it was discovered. As a result more than 70 students in the age group he taught needed to be tested along with 20 or more teachers, they all had to pay over 2,500 each and this was at a Government hospital, it would have been more at a Private. 3 students have so far been found positive and results await on around 30 more. The children who have tested positive, their parents and siblings now also have to pay for the test. I don't doubt your experience . I can only go on what I have been told in person by 2 (private) hospitals and is written in the rules. It's possible some hospitals could abuse the rules for profit. It will also depend on who decided the entire school needed testing. 1
Bkk Brian Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rabas said: I don't doubt your experience . I can only go on what I have been told in person by 2 (private) hospitals and is written in the rules. It's possible some hospitals could abuse the rules for profit. It will also depend on who decided the entire school needed testing. It was decided by the local health dept that was called in. The school contacted 6 hospitals in Phuket, 3 Government and 3 Private. The entire school did not need testing only those I mentioned, in one year group. Edited April 11, 2021 by Bkk Brian 1
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, Walter Travolta said: 5) Locking down the world and killing economies and jobs all for a virus that has around a 1% death rate - ridiculous There are varying estimates for death rates related to the coronavirus, depending on the country, population etc. But if Thailand did nothing and just let the virus spread at will, that could mean a very large CV death toll in a country of 70 million people. If Thailand ended up with the same death rate thus far as the U.S.. (now 575,000+ and counting out of 300 million), that would be about 140,000 deaths in Thailand. (0.2% of the population), if I did my math right. 1
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Popular Post anchadian Posted April 11, 2021 Popular Post Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) Thong Lor - the source where it all started. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/manager-of-two-thonglor-pubs-sentenced-to-two-months-in-prison/ Manager of two Thonglor pubs sentenced to two months in prison The manager of two pubs, in Bangkok’s Thonglor area, which were blamed as the source of the current Thonglor COVID-19 cluster, has been sentenced to two months in prison, without suspension. Pol Maj-Gen Sophon Sarapat, commander of the 5th division of Metropolitan Police Bureau, said today (Sunday) that the manager of the Krystal Club and Emerald pub was arraigned before the Bangkok South District Court on Friday, for allegedly violating the Entertainment Venue Act and the Emergency Decree. He said that the two nightspots may face closure for up to five years. Edited April 11, 2021 by onthedarkside post corrected for formatting / article details expanded 4 1
holy cow cm Posted April 11, 2021 Posted April 11, 2021 1 hour ago, rabas said: Testing is free. Testing has always been free if you have symptoms, have been exposed, travelled in high risk areas. For who? Can’t see foreigners not being squeezed. 1
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