Hospitalization Is still compulsory for all COVID-19 patients

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By Subhabhong Rarueysong

   

BANGKOK (NNT) - The Public Health Ministry has insisted that hospitalization was still compulsory for all Covid-19 patients but mild and asymptomatic or green cases could be sent to field hospitals and "hospitels."

 

Department of Medical Services (DMS) Director-General Dr Somsak Akksilp said fears over the current situation related more to long waits for hospital beds rather than a shortage of beds and coordinated efforts were already being made to address the issue.

 

He said all hospitals under the ministry’s supervision were being instructed to set aside ICU beds as more severe cases were anticipated this week. The DMS is working closely with medical schools in the management of ICU beds. The ministry has a total of 9,317 beds, an increase from 6,000-7,000 beds. About 3,000 beds are still available.

 

Dr Somsak said work is also under way to increase the number of Covid-19 patient transport vehicles across the country to 100, noting that the limited capacity to transport infected patients had also contributed to long waits over the past week.

 

-- © Copyright NNT 2021-04-20

 

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[Pilotman]

and there you have it.  Nobody will get voluntarily tested if the result means that they end up away from home in a field hospital, even if they show no symptoms. 

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, webfact said:

He said all hospitals under the ministry’s supervision were being instructed to set aside ICU beds as more severe cases were anticipated this week

4 dead in todays count. Two 78 year old's, an 86 year old Indian woman and a 30 year old male who was obese but traveled in the Thonglor circle.

 

Many more on ventilators, but I missed the number when it was posted and discussed.  Lots of this briefing is discussing the massive increase in India as well.

[anchadian]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

4 dead in todays count. Two 78 year old's, an 86 year old Indian woman and a 30 year old male who was obese but traveled in the Thonglor circle.

 

Many more on ventilators, but I missed the number when it was posted and discussed.  Lots of this briefing is discussing the massive increase in India as well.

55 people on ventilators

[Dmitry2222]

Is is very strange approach. Сan lead to a shortage of beds for critically ill patients, as was the case in Italy.
What is the reason to hospitalize asymptomatic patients? Home quarantine is sufficient in this case.

[smedly]

It is now believed the the primary transmission of CV19 is air bourn (look it up)

 

This means that these sites - Hospitals - Field Hospitals/Hotels etc are all infection hot spots, now while some might argue - what difference does that make since everyone at these locations are already tested and confirmed to have CV19, here is the problem, with all the various dangerous variants now roaming around the world these hot spots could expose already infected people to other variants of CV19

 

As I have said before - this strategy is flawed, people who are not ill should be in self quarantine in their own homes and have no interaction with others and not leave their residence

[smedly]

6 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

and there you have it.  Nobody will get voluntarily tested if the result means that they end up away from home in a field hospital, even if they show no symptoms. 

 

It has been reported that they are not testing people that have no symptoms because they do not have the capacity to test everyone - another flawed strategy

[smedly]

8 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

4 dead in todays count. Two 78 year old's, an 86 year old Indian woman and a 30 year old male who was obese but traveled in the Thonglor circle.

 

Many more on ventilators, but I missed the number when it was posted and discussed.  Lots of this briefing is discussing the massive increase in India as well.

 

Todays count, seems they are reluctant to release it 

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Is is very strange approach. Сan lead to a shortage of beds for critically ill patients, as was the case in Italy.
What is the reason to hospitalize asymptomatic patients? Home quarantine is sufficient in this case.

That is your view and the view of a few others, but not the view of this government who is no reaping the rewards of overflowing hospitals because of their inability to make a tough decision and allowed this to occur.

[smedly]

so no data released as of yet today on numbers 

 

I wonder why

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, smedly said:

so no data released as of yet today on numbers 

 

I wonder why

It is released there is a post now running for todays numbers and stats.

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Surelynot]

16 minutes ago, smedly said:

As I have said before - this strategy is flawed, people who are not ill should be in self quarantine in their own homes and have no interaction with others and not leave their residence

Definitely......the fly in the ointment is people will not do this....or not do it effectively.

[holy cow cm]

Forcing you to go to hospital is no better than communism and no freedom of choice. Makes no sense if the symptoms are not severe. I 99% know I already had it back in 2020 February and it was not that bad for me. Very weird as the symptoms of never stopping 24 hour runny nose, no taste, sweats, no energy and some aches, but nothing that should have resulted in a forced hospital detainment.

[holy cow cm]

And what would the cost be for foreigners to have a mandatory stay in their hospital system? Certainly not the same as a Thai

[kotsak]

53 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

Is is very strange approach. Сan lead to a shortage of beds for critically ill patients, as was the case in Italy.
What is the reason to hospitalize asymptomatic patients? Home quarantine is sufficient in this case.

 

Home quarantine doesn't bring in any dough though.. ????

[starky]

25 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Forcing you to go to hospital is no better than communism and no freedom of choice. Makes no sense if the symptoms are not severe. I 99% know I already had it back in 2020 February and it was not that bad for me. Very weird as the symptoms of never stopping 24 hour runny nose, no taste, sweats, no energy and some aches, but nothing that should have resulted in a forced hospital detainment.

Why don't you go have the blood test see if you have had it or not? Instead of maybe 99% talking <deleted>

[starky]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

It is now believed the the primary transmission of CV19 is air bourn (look it up)

 

This means that these sites - Hospitals - Field Hospitals/Hotels etc are all infection hot spots, now while some might argue - what difference does that make since everyone at these locations are already tested and confirmed to have CV19, here is the problem, with all the various dangerous variants now roaming around the world these hot spots could expose already infected people to other variants of CV19

 

As I have said before - this strategy is flawed, people who are not ill should be in self quarantine in their own homes and have no interaction with others and not leave their residence

So stay in their own homes in Thailand and have no interaction with others? You been to many rural places in Thailand . <deleted>

Edited April 20, 2021 by metisdead
Profane acronym removed.

[ourmanflint]

This is a huge waste of scarce services. Let people quarantine at home, give them ankle monitors if they can't be trusted to stay home. Hospitals should only be used for people in danger of dying.

[holy cow cm]

22 minutes ago, starky said:

Why don't you go have the blood test see if you have had it or not? Instead of maybe 99% talking <deleted>

Calm down! Eventually will have the blood test because I know we will all have to get the vaccine anyway if we want a semi normal life. They think immunity last 6-8 months up to a possible several years. Yes I am definitely sure I have had it as the symptoms all stacked up at the right time. So how about a 99.99%!

[86Tiger]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

That is your view and the view of a few others, but not the view of this government who is no reaping the rewards of overflowing hospitals because of their inability to make a tough decision and allowed this to occur.

 

 

I would offer it is the view of most the entire world, if a person is not sick enough to warrant he need not be in hospital.

 

Thailand knows better.

[starky]

3 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Calm down! Eventually will have the blood test because I know we will all have to get the vaccine anyway if we want a semi normal life. They think immunity last 6-8 months up to a possible several years. Yes I am definitely sure I have had it as the symptoms all stacked up at the right time. So how about a 99.99%!

Well I was on a rig last year everyone dropped as was fairly ill everyone onboard including the doc were 99.9% sure covid had gone through the joint. Guess what happened when the bloods came back?

 All im saying is don't say you've had it unless you know especially with that degree of certainty lol. I've had 2 serology tests know so I'm 100% sure might be worth looking into. 

  

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Pilotman said:

and there you have it.  Nobody will get voluntarily tested if the result means that they end up away from home in a field hospital, even if they show no symptoms. 

Unintended consequences. Its like they really haven't thought this through.

[rabas]

7 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Calm down! Eventually will have the blood test because I know we will all have to get the vaccine anyway if we want a semi normal life. They think immunity last 6-8 months up to a possible several years. Yes I am definitely sure I have had it as the symptoms all stacked up at the right time. So how about a 99.99%!

Lack of smell was mostly associated with later strains not the early D614 strain in Thailand.  Anosmia was very rare until found in new strains in Germany. ref  Other than that, considering how few covid cases there were in February 2020, and how common flus and colds are, 99.99% seems on the high side.

 

If I thought I may have had it, I would break down doors to get a test so I knew what my status was. 

[garzhe]

All tests give a percentage of false positive results, some as much as 15% I believe. That would mean that there must be a substantial number in hospitals who have tested false positive, not sick and surrounded by other infected patients in government hospitals and field hospitals.

[Surelynot]

2 minutes ago, garzhe said:

All tests give a percentage of false positive results, some as much as 15% I believe. That would mean that there must be a substantial number in hospitals who have tested false positive, not sick and surrounded by other infected patients in government hospitals and field hospitals.

Good point!!!!!

[rabas]

2 hours ago, Pilotman said:

and there you have it.  Nobody will get voluntarily tested if the result means that they end up away from home in a field hospital, even if they show no symptoms. 

And yet they are lining up in droves.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, rabas said:

And yet they are lining up in droves.

For some....those field hospitals are quite an attractive option.

[rabas]

5 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

For some....those field hospitals are quite an attractive option.

Get away from the family for a while. More space.

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by rabas

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, rabas said:

 

Get away from the family for a while. More space.

 

Free wi-fi, free food, clean (I hope), no wife.....can't be all bad.

[Pilotman]

9 minutes ago, rabas said:

And yet they are lining up in droves.

Really? Nobody in my extended Thai family is lining up anywhere for tests. They mostly spend their lives avoiding government officials and agents of the government.  I suspect that goes for the vast majority of the population.