Expats getting a Covid-19 vaccine in Pattaya for dummies with emphasis on expats outside the Thai system

[Sweaty sock]

Thank you for your enquiry of 06/07/2021 07:25 .

 

We appreciate that you are looking for clarity regarding vaccination programmes. 



The British Embassy in Bangkok is not providing vaccines for British Nationals resident in Thailand. British nationals should aim to be vaccinated in the country where they live and the Thai government has confirmed that vaccinations will be provided for everybody who is resident in Thailand, including foreigners. 



We are closely monitoring the Thai government’s plans to roll out the vaccine, including registration processes. As information becomes available about the national vaccination programme we will share this on our travel advice pages. 

 

You can also register with the Embassy to receive detailed information about the vaccination programme by sending a message to [email protected] 



You can also sign up for email alerts for updates to our Travel Advice using the link in the summary section. Information about vaccines is available to read in the coronavirus section.



Information about vaccines used in other national programmes, including regulatory status, should be available from local authorities.  British nationals may locate English-speaking doctors in Thailand and, where available, can find information provided by local authorities on the roll-out/availability of a COVID-19 vaccine.  We provide this information  through our Living in Guides. The World Health Organisation recognises a number of Stringent Regulatory Authorities, which may also be a useful source of additional information.



We hope you find this reply useful.

 

[WaveHunter]

5 minutes ago, Sweaty sock said:

Thank you for your enquiry of 06/07/2021 07:25 .

 

We appreciate that you are looking for clarity regarding vaccination programmes. 



The British Embassy in Bangkok is not providing vaccines for British Nationals resident in Thailand. British nationals should aim to be vaccinated in the country where they live and the Thai government has confirmed that vaccinations will be provided for everybody who is resident in Thailand, including foreigners. 



We are closely monitoring the Thai government’s plans to roll out the vaccine, including registration processes. As information becomes available about the national vaccination programme we will share this on our travel advice pages. 

 

You can also register with the Embassy to receive detailed information about the vaccination programme by sending a message to [email protected] 



You can also sign up for email alerts for updates to our Travel Advice using the link in the summary section. Information about vaccines is available to read in the coronavirus section.



Information about vaccines used in other national programmes, including regulatory status, should be available from local authorities.  British nationals may locate English-speaking doctors in Thailand and, where available, can find information provided by local authorities on the roll-out/availability of a COVID-19 vaccine.  We provide this information  through our Living in Guides. The World Health Organisation recognises a number of Stringent Regulatory Authorities, which may also be a useful source of additional information.



We hope you find this reply useful.

 

Boilerplate Embassy-Speak that when translated means "You're on your own", but thanks anyways LOL.

Edited July 6, 2021 by WaveHunter

[scubascuba3]

Did anyone follow up on that Embassy post where they gave contact email for those vulnerable expats to arrange vaccination? Sheryl posted it plus posted on another thread

[Caldera]

19 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So they are inviting hundreds of thousands of expats from all over Thailand, many aged and with serious diseases to travel to Bangkok, the national epicenter of Covid-19 infection to "pre" register for potential future vaccine dates, meaning two more round trips to Bangkok  totaling three with no real promise of a vaccine in the first place and a great chance the brand will be Sinovac which offers almost no protection after the first dose?

 

You're glad to report about thus?

 

Seriously?

 

What a nonsensical interpretation. For the registration, you don't need to travel to Bangkok. Do you actually plan to fail again? Or will you approach it with a little more sense of urgency and seriousness this time?

[MJKT2014]

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

I've no idea how they'll do it in practice, but there's not much point in opening for registration if nobody has the link to the form to be filled in is there?

Did you go to the web site? It clearly says "the link of Google Form will be published on 12th-16th July 2021."

[Jingthing]

33 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

What a nonsensical interpretation. For the registration, you don't need to travel to Bangkok. Do you actually plan to fail again? Or will you approach it with a little more sense of urgency and seriousness this time?

Baiting post ignored.

If you're only here to heckle, harass  and insult participants here, kindly do not continue to infect this serious topic.

Edited July 6, 2021 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, WaveHunter said:

We'll probably find out within 3 hours of registration opening (when they shut it down and state that registration is full).  If you don't register in that 3 hour window on that first day, you'll probably be out of luck is my guess.

3 hours or 3 minutes, eh?

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Guderian said:

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Are you saying that your understanding is that there will access to their Google form for their registration BEFORE the opening time of the registration? 

 

I've no idea how they'll do it in practice, but there's not much point in opening for registration if nobody has the link to the form to be filled in is there? This is Thailand, though, so who knows, lol?

 

Google Forms is an online marketing, data collection or reporting platform that is customer configurable. Many companies use them for planning sessions, online surveys, customer feedback and the like. The Contractor I am supervising uses the Microsoft Form platform (similar product, different company) for employees and sub-contractors to submit their health screening data ahead of international travel. Malaysia's Covid ASQ uses them for 'persons under observation' to submit their daily health reports during quarantine. Hotels use them to launch online restaurant menus. Based on the instructions on their website, "The registration will be in Google Form Format and the link of Google Form will be published on 12th-16th July 2021." I would think that either a QR code and/or a URL link will be posted on their home page on the 12th. Click the link to open in your browser or scan the QR code to open on your smartphone.

 

There's no point in putting the link up earlier as it won't  be linked to anything until 12th through 16th. Since the form will probably be a simple name, dob, ID and contact information job, it doesn't need to be checked before it goes live, just have all your personal info handy, including your phone as it will probably use a OTP via SMS for verification.

 

Good luck!

 

PS: While I had their home page open, their Admin help chat launched and asked if it could help. I asked about the AZ shots and they confirmed the criteria and that the link to the Google Form will be posted on their page on 12th.

Edited July 6, 2021 by NanLaew

[Caldera]

39 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Baiting post ignored.

If you're only here to heckle, harass  and insult participants here, kindly do not continue to infect this serious topic.

 

How is pointing out that you do not need to travel to Bangkok to register for a vaccination appointment any of that?

 

You misinterpreted the published information, which needed correction. If you or anyone else fails to register, just because you were mistakenly assuming that you need to register in person, that would be truly unfortunate.

 

You're welcome.

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

How is pointing out that you do not need to travel to Bangkok to register for a vaccination appointment any of that?

 

You misinterpreted the published information, which needed correction. If you or anyone else fails to register, just because you were mistakenly assuming that you need to register in person, that would be truly unfortunate.

 

You're welcome.

Previously acknowledged if you bothered to read the thread instead of going for my jugular.

You viciously personally attacked me.

Don't even try to play innocent.

You have shown a pattern of doing that.

 

Yes as we have been discussing in detail already Phyathai 2 is offering online registration but the other one on Sukhumwit requires direct contact with the hospital.  Perhaps we can get more details about that if possible. 

 

Edited July 6, 2021 by Jingthing

[thaitero]

As for google forms you can prepare yourself by being logged in to your google account. If you do not have one, you can create one with google. This sort of advice is given with Pattaya sinopharm online registration to Thais which use google forms also...

 

Do not know if really necessary but i am sure some more specialist here can tell more,,,

Edited July 6, 2021 by thaitero

[Jingthing]

I am posting today's CCSA announcement for three reasons. 

 

 

First for its characterization of the history of the functionality of the thailandintervac site which is laughable and adds fuel to fire of needing to take their announcements with a bucket of salt.

 

Secondly and of course welcome is reference to what we've been recently talking about here, the opening of a limited number of doses for high risk expats at two Bangkok hospitals. 

 

Thirdly, there is something in this about generally addressing high risk people in the rest of Thailand in August but very obvious in its omission is specific mention of high risk EXPATS in the rest of Thailand. 

 

So they are not even promosing that at all.

Edited July 6, 2021 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, thaitero said:

As for google forms you can prepare yourself by being logged in to your google account. If you do not have on, you can create one with google. This sort of advice is given with Pattaya sinopharm online registration to Thais which use google forms also...

 

Do not know if really necessary but i am sure some more specialist here can tell more,,,

Thanks.

I am curious to know if it necessary or not.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

2 hours ago, thaitero said:

As for google forms you can prepare yourself by being logged in to your google account. If you do not have on, you can create one with google. This sort of advice is given with Pattaya sinopharm online registration to Thais which use google forms also...

 

Do not know if really necessary but i am sure some more specialist here can tell more,,,

Thanks.

I am curious to know if it necessary or not.

 

If using a PC/Computer or iPhone, Google account log in (or creation) may be required.

If using an android smartphone, you are already logged into Google.

[Eibot]

On 7/3/2021 at 11:09 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Where, what center and how do you know what date to turn up or what time? Thats not been mentioned anywhere, the website is still working and taking bookings. No walk ins allowed when I went

Every centre. Go at the end of the day. Make sure they are doing first shots of AZ though. They open a batch and it needs to be finished. TIT mate. 

 

[Bkk Brian]

6 hours ago, Eibot said:

Every centre. Go at the end of the day. Make sure they are doing first shots of AZ though. They open a batch and it needs to be finished. TIT mate. 

 

Rubbish

[WaveHunter]

19 hours ago, VaccineHunter said:

I think you cannot take these annoucements at face value whatsoever - they are purely aspirational.. whereas the "Interva" registration in Bangkok will start at the 12th and has been proven to yield vaccination outcomes for foreigners... 

Contrary to what some embassy officials or US government spokesmen say, there is NO valid reason for expats to be denied US vaccines while here in Thailand. 

 

There is actually a precedent for this that occured in the early 1980's when the US provided Hepatitis vaccines to US expats here in Thailand during that outbreak.  The vaccinations were actually done on the grounds of US Embassies in Bangkok and Chiang Mai.  THAT IS A FACT.  The present situation with the Covid Delta variants is FAR MORE SERIOUS. 

 

With the US having the largest stockpile of Covid vaccines right now (estimated to be 1 BILLION doses by the end of this year), they should have been the first country to do this.  Instead France was the first.  If, for no other reason than "saving face", the US should step up to the plate and do the right thing...RIGHT NOW!

 

Will they?  With any other past Administration, I think it would already have happened.  With the present Administration, considering their track record so far for doing what's right for its' citizens, well, I'm not holding my breath.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Contrary to what some embassy officials or US government spokesmen say, there is NO valid reason for expats to be denied US vaccines while here in Thailand. 

 

There is actually a precedent for this that occured in the early 1980's when the US provided Hepatitis vaccines to US expats here in Thailand during that outbreak.  The vaccinations were actually done on the grounds of US Embassies in Bangkok and Chiang Mai.  THAT IS A FACT.  The present situation with the Covid Delta variants is FAR MORE SERIOUS. 

 

With the US having the largest stockpile of Covid vaccines right now (estimated to be 1 BILLION doses by the end of this year), they should have been the first country to do this.  Instead France was the first.  If, for no other reason than "saving face", the US should step up to the plate and do the right thing...RIGHT NOW!

 

Will they?  With any other past Administration, I think it would already have happened.  With the present Administration, considering their track record so far for doing what's right for its' citizens, well, I'm not holding my breath.

You have no idea what previous U.S. administrations would have done. Kindly desist from trying to interject partisan U.S. politics into this topic.

[WaveHunter]

18 hours ago, Caldera said:

 

What a nonsensical interpretation. For the registration, you don't need to travel to Bangkok. Do you actually plan to fail again? Or will you approach it with a little more sense of urgency and seriousness this time?

You comment to the poster is overly harsh and the tone of your comment is rude and unwarranted!

 

I think the poster simply misinterpreted what "pre-registration" meant, which is entirely understandable, considering how convoluted the InterVac message was, and the fact that it did not make it clear that "pre registration" would be done ONLINE, not in-person.

 

It's just another example of extremely poor communications by the Ministry of Health to foreigners which has occured over and over, and over again in the past few weeks.  So, if you are going to be critical of anyone it should be the Ministry of Health, not the poster!

[WaveHunter]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You have no idea what previous U.S. administrations would have done. Kindly desist from trying to interject partisan U.S. politics into this topic.

There is nothing partisan in my remark!  STOP intentionally misrepresenting what I said!

 

A previous Administration took PROMPT action in delivering vaccines to expats here in Thailand during the Hepatitis outbreak in the early 1980's. 

 

The present administration has been completely silent on the topic except to say that their hands are tied, with boilerplate statements through the Embassy that the US can not help expats in this way due to a long standing policy of not providing such a  service to expats in the past ...which is simply not true!

 

That is in no way a partisan remark, it is simply a FACT!

Edited July 7, 2021 by WaveHunter

[Jingthing]

21 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

There is nothing partisan in my remark!  STOP intentionally misrepresenting what I said!

 

A previous Administration took PROMPT action in delivering vaccines to expats here in Thailand during the Hepatitis outbreak in the early 1980's. 

 

The present administration has been completely silent on the topic except to say that their hands are tied, with boilerplate statements through the Embassy that the US can not help expats in this way due to a long standing policy of not providing such a  service to expats in the past ...which is simply not true!

 

That is in no way a partisan remark, it is simply a FACT!

 

That was one administration in the past in the 1980s.

 

Sorry I'm just not buying your narrative that you're not trying to make this into a partisan divide issue.

 

Let me make this clear.

 

I agree with you 100 percent that right now the buck stops with Biden and I also strongly disagree with his administration's nothing response.

 

But readers aren't stupid. It's obvious that you're implying that the last guy would have helped us and again you can't possibly know that. Again: NO US PARTISAN POLITICS here please. 

 

Edited July 7, 2021 by Jingthing

[Caldera]

44 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

You comment to the poster is overly harsh and the tone of your comment is rude and unwarranted!

 

I think the poster simply misinterpreted what "pre-registration" meant, which is entirely understandable, considering how convoluted the InterVac message was, and the fact that it did not make it clear that "pre registration" would be done ONLINE, not in-person.

 

It's just another example of extremely poor communications by the Ministry of Health to foreigners which has occured over and over, and over again in the past few weeks.  So, if you are going to be critical of anyone it should be the Ministry of Health, not the poster!

 

Point taken, and I definitely agree with your last paragraph. I think all of us can agree that this could have been handled much better by the incompetent authorities.

 

Nevertheless, in my opinion those expats who take a constructive approach and try hard to avail themselves of all options tend to have better outcomes than those who spend more time lamenting the situation. The poster I replied to doesn't seem to get that, which is unfortunate. As you said though, I could have been more polite when trying to get that across.

 

From my personal experience, being one of those who managed to get an appointment at Phyathai 2 Hospital via Thailand Intervac, my recommendation to those who didn't is as I wrote in reply to that poster: Use the upcoming registration that the hospital will provide next week. Chances are you'll secure an appointment this time around.

 

Best of luck to all of those who will try. Stay safe.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

Point taken, and I definitely agree with your last paragraph. I think all of us can agree that this could have been handled much better by the incompetent authorities.

 

Nevertheless, in my opinion those expats who take a constructive approach and try hard to avail themselves of all options tend to have better outcomes than those who spend more time lamenting the situation. The poster I replied to doesn't seem to get that, which is unfortunate. As you said though, I could have been more polite when trying to get that across.

 

From my personal experience, being one of those who managed to get an appointment at Phyathai 2 Hospital via Thailand Intervac, my recommendation to those who didn't is as I wrote in reply to that poster: Use the upcoming registration that the hospital will provide next week. Chances are you'll secure an appointment this time around.

 

Best of luck to all of those who will try. Stay safe.

The topic isn't me.

The topic is access to vaccines for expats in Pattaya. 

You weren't impolite.

You were VICIOUS and it wasn't the first time either. 

I'm not here to be your punching bag.

 

 

[VaccineHunter]

14 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

Point taken, and I definitely agree with your last paragraph. I think all of us can agree that this could have been handled much better by the incompetent authorities.

 

Nevertheless, in my opinion those expats who take a constructive approach and try hard to avail themselves of all options tend to have better outcomes than those who spend more time lamenting the situation. The poster I replied to doesn't seem to get that, which is unfortunate. As you said though, I could have been more polite when trying to get that across.

 

From my personal experience, being one of those who managed to get an appointment at Phyathai 2 Hospital via Thailand Intervac, my recommendation to those who didn't is as I wrote in reply to that poster: Use the upcoming registration that the hospital will provide next week. Chances are you'll secure an appointment this time around.

 

Best of luck to all of those who will try. Stay safe.

Fully agree with your statement - this is the time to be extremely proactive and leave no stone unturned to get vaccinated. You and me are proof that with a positive attitude and tenacity and conviction it can be done. We all knew that when we moved to Thailand that we are moving to a third-world country with its specific set of challenges. Navigating these and using this forum is the way to go. Has anybody already contacted Samitivej?

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

 

That was one administration in the past in the 1980s.

 

Sorry I'm just not buying your narrative that you're not trying to make this into a partisan divide issue.

 

Let me make this clear.

 

I agree with you 100 percent that right now the buck stops with Biden and I also strongly disagree with his administration's nothing response.

 

But readers aren't stupid. It's obvious that you're implying that the last guy would have helped us and again you can't possibly know that. Again: NO US PARTISAN POLITICS here please. 

 

With all due respect...GIVE IT A REST!  I said nothing about the "last guy"; nor am I saying anything about the "present guy".  I am saying that the present administration is letting us down PERIOD!  

 

You are the one trying to twist my words to make this sound partisan, not me.  I could give a rat's ass whether the current administration is republican or democrat!  I am talking about an administration that to date has shown a flagrant disregard for the rights of US citizens abroad PERIOD!

Edited July 7, 2021 by WaveHunter

[WaveHunter]

58 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

Point taken, and I definitely agree with your last paragraph. I think all of us can agree that this could have been handled much better by the incompetent authorities.

 

Nevertheless, in my opinion those expats who take a constructive approach and try hard to avail themselves of all options tend to have better outcomes than those who spend more time lamenting the situation. The poster I replied to doesn't seem to get that, which is unfortunate. As you said though, I could have been more polite when trying to get that across.

 

From my personal experience, being one of those who managed to get an appointment at Phyathai 2 Hospital via Thailand Intervac, my recommendation to those who didn't is as I wrote in reply to that poster: Use the upcoming registration that the hospital will provide next week. Chances are you'll secure an appointment this time around.

 

Best of luck to all of those who will try. Stay safe.

Look I respect your opinion but I simply disagree very strongly.  Many of us have diligently tried to become registered.  Few have succeeded.  Those that have been able to did not try any harder; they were just luckier.

 

Registration should not be by the luck of the draw.  MorProm failed to give most expats an even chance to register, the same was true with InterVac or InterVac/expat. 

 

The CCSA clearly stated that you can only seek vaccinations from the Province where you reside, even though most hospitals in Bangkok were turning a blind eye to this mandate. Nobody really knew this...until it was too late to take advantage.

 

So, for all intents and purposes, ALL of the registrations schemes to date (both public and private) have been poorly conceived and resulted in most expats NOT being able to register, and only a lucky few being able to...simply by blind luck and nothing more.

 

Do I feel ill will towards those expats who were lucky enough to succeed?  No! 

 

Do I think that those of us who have diligently tried to register countless times but have met insurmountable obstacles every single time is unacceptable?  Absolutely!

 

No expat should have to go through 5+ iterations of the various registration scheme only to being frustrated each and every time, and then have a fellow expat who registered purely by blind luck reprimand them for not being diligent enough.

 

I don't mean this to be harsh or directed at you personally, but many on this forum seem to think that all expats have been given ample opportunity to register, and it's simply their own fault that they  did not succeed.  That is just not so!

Edited July 7, 2021 by WaveHunter

[ivor bigun]

I read all that is posted here and thank goodness i got a pink card ,registered on mor phrom 6 weeks ago and got an Astra Zenica jab 4 weeks ago just down the road in Sri Racha , just hoping that they cut the 16 week wait down to 12 as has been promised.

so to all those who say the pink card is of no use  rubbish.

as for the Thailandintervac ,registered was accepted and still waiting for an appointment ,and will be this time next year.

[In Full Agreement]

On 7/6/2021 at 1:03 PM, dabhand said:

The Phyathai website is updated with a message about the registration process.

 

 

 

 

 dabhand I extend my sincere thanks to you  for posting this information for the benefit of others.     That was an act of kindness..

 

Unfortunately for me, even with the wife using the QR code at 1:00 PM when the site opened for registration,  it was already full.    AT 1:05 we got the message registration is full.

 

I tried to call the hospital at 1:20 but it was only busy.    Trying to log in to the QR code again only produced a crashed site.

 

I wonder how many doses of vaccine the hospital had?

 

 Again, many thanks.

[WaveHunter]

8 minutes ago, In Full Agreement said:

 

 

 dabhand I extend my sincere thanks to you  for posting this information for the benefit of others.     That was an act of kindness..

 

Unfortunately for me, even with the wife using the QR code at 1:00 PM when the site opened for registration,  it was already full.    AT 1:05 we got the message registration is full.

 

I tried to call the hospital at 1:20 but it was only busy.    Trying to log in to the QR code again only produced a crashed site.

 

I wonder how many doses of vaccine the hospital had?

 

 Again, many thanks.

You seem to have missed the latest news (if you are talking about registration for public rollout).  Phyathai will be offering online registration beginning 12 July at 9am.

 

The registration will be in Google Form Format and the link of Google Form will be published on their website 12th-16th July 2021.

 

The period for pre-registration is between 12 and 16 July from 09.00-12.00 hours only. Most likely they will shut down well before 16 July, so do it as soon as they publish the form!  Use this opportunity ASAP or lose it, as they say

 

The vaccination period will be 19-30 July 2021 (except weekends), and the vaccine provided will be Astrazeneca. 

[WaveHunter]

Just a side note for anyone anticipating COVID vaccination with the next 4 weeks.  Do not get a Flu vaccination in the meantime.  A nurse I spoke with the other day said that you should allow at least 2-4 weeks after influenza vaccination, before receiving a Covid vaccination.


Just posting this since it would be a shame if after all the frustrations we have gone through to hopefully be registered through Phyathai upcoming registration scheme, you had to forfeit it for having gotten a Flu shot too recently.
 

Edited July 7, 2021 by WaveHunter