Thailand reports 2,636 COVID-19 cases, 25 new deaths

[anchadian]

‘On-site’ COVID-19 inoculation program replaces ‘walk-in’

 

The Thai government has replaced its “walk-in” COVID-19 inoculation program with “on-site”, to avoid misunderstandings that vaccines can be administered right away on the same day.

 

On-site inoculation is another option members of the public can access COVID-19 vaccination, in addition to Mor Prom online registration.

 

The walk-in program was rejected by Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha out of concern that this option may cause problems at the vaccination sites, as people may rush to get vaccinated, resulting in congestion and a high risk of disease transmission.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/on-site-covid-19-inoculation-program-replaces-walk-in/

 

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Like my GF's ex, they will continue to spread the virus.  Some people are afraid of loosing their homes, cars and not being able to take care of their families.  His wife just was released and arrived home to find he has a fever as well as his mother and father.  They were told to self isolate at their house until symptoms appeared then were supposed to call the hospital to arrange for transport. However, he is still out making food deliveries, he is a prime example of why they will never get a handle on this because there is no safety net for folks like him.  His wife works for a bank, they covered her salary while she was in the hospital for the past 3 weeks, and she was told to stay isolated from the other family members.  Kind of hard to do in a 2 bedroom house where 6 people live.  Thankfully we have the daughter here with us.

I'm sure this is typical for many many Thai's working here, they are now advised to stay at home even if they think they've been infected and only seek a test if they show symptoms. Many just can't afford to do that as in the case you cite, others also are just unable to isolate at all because of living conditions. It keeps positive case tests lower for those that don't develop symptoms and those like your GF's ex who do show symptoms just can't afford to take the time off work so don't bother unless it gets to serious that they have no choice.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/on-site-covid-19-inoculation-program-replaces-walk-in/

 

 

 

"Under the on-site program, people can register themselves at designated vaccination sites. They will receive the jab on the day of their registration, if there are sufficient doses available. If not, health officials will make appointments for them to receive jabs later. This will do away with making people wait at the sites, not knowing whether they will get vaccinated on that day, as would be the case with the walk-in approach."

 

 

It's a bit fuzzy to me just how different this new scheme is supposed to be vs the prior walk-in plan. If I understood the walk-in plan correctly, there always was going to be a daily limit per site for walk-in doses, and any people showing up beyond that, were supposed to get a queue ticket to come back the next day.

 

And so now instead, they're saying they're going to give beyond quota folks instead a future appointment date, though they don't seem to be necessarily saying the next day...  How exactly that changes the "waiting" on-site dynamic is escaping me.

 

Kinda like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

Proves to me you have no clue.

 

IF the number of people go up then the infection rate goes up by the same amount of tests. So as long as they keep testing the same amount of people you can compare numbers.

This just shows that the infection rate/spread is about the same

Not sure what your trying to say. Incerease testing by 10% and numbers of infected will increase by 10% or around that mark. Then I agree.

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

"Under the on-site program, people can register themselves at designated vaccination sites. They will receive the jab on the day of their registration, if there are sufficient doses available. If not, health officials will make appointments for them to receive jabs later. This will do away with making people wait at the sites, not knowing whether they will get vaccinated on that day, as would be the case with the walk-in approach."

 

 

It's a bit fuzzy to me just how different this new scheme is supposed to be vs the prior walk-in plan. If I understood the walk-in plan correctly, there always was going to be a daily limit per site for walk-in doses, and any people showing up beyond that, were supposed to get a queue ticket to come back the next day.

 

And so now instead, they're saying they're going to give beyond quota folks instead a future appointment date, though they don't seem to be necessarily saying the next day...  How exactly that changes the "waiting" on-site dynamic is escaping me.

 

Kinda like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

Politics with the opposing factions I think.

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

Of the 2,636 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 1,385 were found via tests at medical facilities

- 522 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 671 via proactive tests at prisons

- 58 in quarantine facilities

- 25 fatalities

#WhatsHappeningInThailand #โควิด19

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1395253686104776709

 

522 at known clusters? This has to be a very low % of all those in the now 30+ clusters. Still they're imprisoning the foreign workers so I guess that's good enough. Remember folks this is Thailand. If your not Thai then your down the rung. These **********look down on people from Issan. What do you think they think about anyone else other than Thai.

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Not sure what your trying to say. Incerease testing by 10% and numbers of infected will increase by 10% or around that mark. Then I agree.

That is about what im saying but not 10% but lower. Some area's in BKK are 7% so that would be more realistic. 

 

If you test enough then you get a rate from it xxxx tests means xxx infected. Once you spread testing out good and keep doing it the same then that rate is important as it shows what would happen if you test everyone. If you do a good sample and you get a rate of 8% then it stands to reason that about 8% of the whole population has it

 

Again this depends how you set the testing up and how good your sample size is. But basically im saying you want to know the number of infected per 100 tests. If those tests are spread out evenly over the country (so more in BKK less in Chan Rai) then overal your percentage should be the accurate. 

 

You can then say how many in your population would be infected.

 

So right now what im saying is that given the fact that they probably have been testing the same number of people and in a similar methodology the fact that we keep seeing around 2000 outside prison shows that the rate of infection is the same. Its not getting worse its not getting better. So double the testing we should see double the numbers (ok might not be totally accurate could not be super far off either).

 

So if we start more testing we get more numbers but that does not mean its worse then the day before (unless the percentage positives goes up too)

[anchadian]

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395298405723742210

 

UPDATE: The Department of Corrections has just released the latest case numbers for their prisons. Today they are reporting 999 new cases. There are now 13,524 inmates infected in 11 prisons. This is 4.34% of the prison population. There are also 32 officials infected #Thailand

 

[dinsdale]

35 minutes ago, robblok said:

That is about what im saying but not 10% but lower. Some area's in BKK are 7% so that would be more realistic. 

 

If you test enough then you get a rate from it xxxx tests means xxx infected. Once you spread testing out good and keep doing it the same then that rate is important as it shows what would happen if you test everyone. If you do a good sample and you get a rate of 8% then it stands to reason that about 8% of the whole population has it

 

Again this depends how you set the testing up and how good your sample size is. But basically im saying you want to know the number of infected per 100 tests. If those tests are spread out evenly over the country (so more in BKK less in Chan Rai) then overal your percentage should be the accurate. 

 

You can then say how many in your population would be infected.

 

So right now what im saying is that given the fact that they probably have been testing the same number of people and in a similar methodology the fact that we keep seeing around 2000 outside prison shows that the rate of infection is the same. Its not getting worse its not getting better. So double the testing we should see double the numbers (ok might not be totally accurate could not be super far off either).

 

So if we start more testing we get more numbers but that does not mean its worse then the day before (unless the percentage positives goes up too)

To simpify if I may. More testing will find more postives. Less testing misses more positives. I'm still not sure if this is what your saying. I can't really tell you why numbers hover around 2k-2.5k but it's not getting better. Is it worse? Hard to tell without a massive increase in mass testing not just in BKK but nationally. We need to think that one asympotamic person can cause the death of one or more at risk people. What's happening in countries that now seem to be controlling this virus is mass testing continues. 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand on Thursday (May 20) reported 2,636 new COVID-19 cases and 25 more deaths over the past 24 hours.

While the vaccine programme is dragging on and on and on... 

[Bkk Brian]

Heart breaking for the parents of this baby:

 

Doctor expresses regret for not being able to admit a 2-month old COVID-19 patient

 

A senior doctor has expressed deep sorrow for her difficult decision not to admit a two-month-old baby, suffering from a complex heart defect, or TOF (Tetralogy of Fallot), and infected with COVID-19, last Saturday.

The baby later died at another hospital.

Associate Professor Dr. Wanatpreeya Phongsamart, chief of the Contagious Division at Siriraj Hospital, said in her Facebook post yesterday (Wednesday) that “we honestly do not want to deny treatment.”

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/doctor-expresses-regret-for-not-being-able-to-admit-a-2-month-old-covid-19-patient/

[2 is 1]

The pure fact is! Numbers not act in pantemic situation like they act in Thailand! Not possible that some province have one day over 20 infected people and day after zero! Yes if nobody walk in to test station that is true number! But we all know what really going on( yeah some of us dont)! They not follow and cant follow where infected people have been contact to! Only follow few cluster in BKK! Maybe there is growing bigger problem in other part in coundry!

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Heart breaking for the parents of this baby:

 

Doctor expresses regret for not being able to admit a 2-month old COVID-19 patient

 

A senior doctor has expressed deep sorrow for her difficult decision not to admit a two-month-old baby, suffering from a complex heart defect, or TOF (Tetralogy of Fallot), and infected with COVID-19, last Saturday.

The baby later died at another hospital.

Associate Professor Dr. Wanatpreeya Phongsamart, chief of the Contagious Division at Siriraj Hospital, said in her Facebook post yesterday (Wednesday) that “we honestly do not want to deny treatment.”

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/doctor-expresses-regret-for-not-being-able-to-admit-a-2-month-old-covid-19-patient/

From the net.

Tetralogy of Fallot (ToF) is the most common type of cyanotic congenital heart disease. Since the first surgical repair in 1954, treatment has continuously improved. The treatment strategies currently used in the treatment of ToF result in excellent long-term survival (30 year survival ranges from 68.5% to 90.5%).

 

Ok a serious heart condition but still survivable. Covid and, I would imagine no ICU bed available. This little two month old died of COVID-19 because of the governments mishandling of this situation since the Thong Lor outbreak. Anyone like to argue the point on this one.

 

Coming soon this govt will be held responsible for their complete ineptitude. 

 

I have to add to this tragedy. Apart from the family, the doctor and the nursing staff must be gutted. Not much is being said about how the medics are going with this pandemic here and I think it's because it will expose just how bad things are in BKK. China did the same.

Edited May 20, 2021 by dinsdale

[anchadian]

Screening focuses on construction-worker camps amid Covid cluster surge

 

Construction-worker camps in Bangkok were being closely monitored for possible clusters, the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) said on Thursday.

 

“There are now a lot of clusters at construction-worker camps,” said Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin, CCSA’a spokesman.

 

Taweesin said there are 409 construction worker camps in all 50 districts of Bangkok.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27752/screening-focuses-on-construction-worker-camps-amid-covid-cluster-surge/

[anchadian]

Pheu Thai asked AstraZeneca to clarify how many doses can be extracted from its vaccine bottle after Anutin asked agencies to try to get 12 doses out of the recommended 10 doses instead. He said it would save money. #วัคซีนโควิด #วัคซีนโควิด19 https://khaosod.co.th/politics/news_6409446 (Thai language)

 

https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1395320035300626435

 

Edited May 20, 2021 by anchadian

[ThailandRyan]

15 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Pheu Thai asked AstraZeneca to clarify how many doses can be extracted from its vaccine bottle after Anutin asked agencies to try to get 12 doses out of the recommended 10 doses instead. He said it would save money. #วัคซีนโควิด #วัคซีนโควิด19 https://khaosod.co.th/politics/news_6409446 (Thai language)

 

https://twitter.com/erich_parpart/status/1395320035300626435

 

Anutin trying to scrimp and save or is he trying to get the most money out of a bottle. This just sickens me.  Some have extracted an extra dose but it's not recommended. 

 

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/vaccine/Pages/az-refrigerator-to-administration.aspx

 

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/breaking-news/gps-may-get-extra-dose-from-oxford-vaccine-vials/

Edited May 20, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Rampant Rabbit]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

The news comes as Thailand aims to vaccinate 70% of people by September. 

2025

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

2025

Possibly correct in your view.

[Rampant Rabbit]

7 hours ago, anchadian said:

Third wave of pandemic could be death sentence for Thai hotels

 

Two years ago, the seaside in front of Seksith Pimolnat guesthouse on Phuket’s Patong Beach was packed. Holiday makers from Siberia, China, and the various corners of the European Union crowded together in a cacophonous revelry.

 

Today, Patong is deserted. Another casualty of the coronavirus pandemic.

 

“Many of my friends have had to close their hotels and move back home or find a different job,” Seksith told Thai Enquirer. “For them, whatever plans there are to reopen is too late. They are finished.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27726/third-wave-of-pandemic-could-be-death-sentence-for-thai-hotels/

 

 

Wonder  how  many are for sale at realistic prices?

[ThailandRyan]

4 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Wonder  how  many are for sale at realistic prices?

Chinese fire sale coming to a tourist location near you......

[dinsdale]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Complete province by province list of new domestic COVID cases reported on Thursday. Once again, NBT is reporting all prison cases in the Central region, even though they're not all occurring there.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158028149857050

 

I notice Pattani which I thought is a dark red zone now has 3 positives. 

[anchadian]

Samui health officials were able to keep their zero rate for new infections. Unfortunately for Phuket, they are reporting three new infections #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1395346336975708161

 

[Marvin Hagler]

6 hours ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1395259844500680711

 

There are now 23 highly active clusters around Bangkok, most of them worker camps and slum communities, but also markets such as Huai Kwang Market, Pratunam Market, Bobae Market, Klong Thom Center, Klong Toey Market, Silom, Ying Charoen Market, and Bang Kapi Market.

 

At this stage of the game it is impossible that these are isolated clusters...they appear as clusters as they focus testing here.

 

As every other country has experienced, it is at this stage that it is out of control. You can’t control this now with isolated actions. It’s at the stage now where the only thing that will control it is lockdowns or vaccinations.

 

The case numbers do not reflect reality.

[Marvin Hagler]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

It's called "Whack a Mole". 

This idiot is just talking in circles...best to just put on ignore.

[ThailandRyan]

16 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said:

This idiot is just talking in circles...best to just put on ignore.

He used my phrase I placed on my earlier response to a post of his.

[Blumpie]

This endless minutia reminds me of the ending of Django unchained.

What do the numbers matter now?  Everyone will be in full panic mode until vaccines arrive and immunity is reached.  It's going to go up, then down, but the end result is what the result is - hospitals close to being overwhelmed, a very dangerous situation indeed.

Thankfully these people aren't like true buffoons like Brazil.  Look at that place!  If you got cancer there you're done.  Or an infection.  Or whatever.  

On the flip side, who would go to Thailand on a family with their hospitals under so much strain?  None.

[anchadian]

Quarantine camp for COVID-19 infected migrant workers in Bangkok proposed

 

The advisory committee of Thailand’s Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has recommended that the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) set up a special camp for the quarantine of COVID-19 infected foreign migrant workers, to cope with increasing number of cases, CCSA Spokesman Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin said today (Thursday).

 

The advisory panel, led by Clinical Professor Emeritus Dr. Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn, cited the model in Pathum Thani province, where an old market has been converted into a field hospital, barricaded from all sides, to accommodate migrant workers who tested positive for the disease.

 

According to the advisory committee, there are an estimated 1.3 million legal migrant workers in Bangkok and its peripherals, including 580,000 in Bangkok, 230,000 in Samut Sakhon, 160,000 in Samut Prakan, 130,000 in Pathum Thani, 99,000 in Nonthaburi and 93,000 in Nakhon Pathom.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/quarantine-camp-for-covid-19-infected-migrant-workers-in-bangkok-proposed/

[gaz3443]

I see many people walking around the buddha hill ,pratumnak , walking close together many not wearing a mask , im amazed that this is allowed !!!

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, gaz3443 said:

I see many people walking around the buddha hill ,pratumnak , walking close together many not wearing a mask , im amazed that this is allowed !!!

Why yes it is, they have their magic amulets and tattoos.  They are also probably chanting the official Covid-19 chant to make Covid go away that was ordered by the PM.

[Excel]

10 hours ago, anchadian said:

Quarantine camp for COVID-19 infected migrant workers in Bangkok proposed

 

The advisory committee of Thailand’s Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has recommended that the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) set up a special camp for the quarantine of COVID-19 infected foreign migrant workers, to cope with increasing number of cases, CCSA Spokesman Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin said today (Thursday).

 

The advisory panel, led by Clinical Professor Emeritus Dr. Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn, cited the model in Pathum Thani province, where an old market has been converted into a field hospital, barricaded from all sides, to accommodate migrant workers who tested positive for the disease.

 

According to the advisory committee, there are an estimated 1.3 million legal migrant workers in Bangkok and its peripherals, including 580,000 in Bangkok, 230,000 in Samut Sakhon, 160,000 in Samut Prakan, 130,000 in Pathum Thani, 99,000 in Nonthaburi and 93,000 in Nakhon Pathom.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/quarantine-camp-for-covid-19-infected-migrant-workers-in-bangkok-proposed/

Sounds more like it will be concentration camps in all but name. Getting very sinister.