16 hours ago, siftasam said:

I'll TRY (hard!) not to bore you BUT I had a terrible time even in my 20s and 30s with ED. It was disastrous to  a couple of otherwise very good relationships that I had, including my first marriage. So cripplingly embarrassing.

 

I did not solve it 100% until I was 48! Different strokes for different folks (and I am not advertising!) but my sex life improved incredibly when I started taking VigRX (touted as the world's number one male supplement). Thankfully, it also began acting quite soon after starting 'treatment'.

 

I have never taken any other supplement. I am now 75 years old and I (at least!) am happy with my performance. I take VigRXPlus every day.  After so long, I need only take one tablet a day now. It's been worth every cent. BUT I cannot import it directly. Does anyone know if it's available here?

 

In 2 months time, I fear I will be forced to try something else. I've  ordered a bottle of Nature's Truth Korean Ginseng and one of Giffarine ARG-N-ORN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At £50 a box + £20 shipping, I think not.

 

1 hour ago, Mister Fixit said:

Jeez, why do defeatist posts like this annoy me so much?   This sounds someone who has let life slipped him by.  Like a sheep on its back not knowing how to right itself.  

Show some initiative,  grow a pair, whatever.  At the very least investigate why your body has changed so you can take remedial action.  

What a waste of a post.   ????

no its still working but i ditched sex early 40's anyway.

sex is for young people, the thought of old folks doing it is nothing short of repulsive

3 minutes ago, scammed said:

no its still working but i ditched sex early 40's anyway.

sex is for young people, the thought of old folks doing it is nothing short of repulsive

Read the Bible. Moses was still getting it on, IIRC the phrase is "His natural force was unabated".

There is absolutely nothing wrong with older people having sex. Your attitude to it is astounding.

Moringa powder and juice every morning has had astonishing results for me. So much so in fact that the wife has had to bring her sister onboard to help share the load so to speak. Have started to decrease the powder amount by half now as I overheard wifey asking her sister if they should bring their mother in as well. Scared she might hurt me...

I wrote about this very subject in March here 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1209506-sidegra-kamagra-viagra-and-cialis/

 

and again here in an update

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1216990-sidegra-kamagra-viagra-and-cialis-update/

 

so it may be useful for others to read as there was some good information in there (and some not so good)

 

I went to the endocrinology clinic at Phramongkutklao, but they weren't really much good.  They tested my testosterone levels which I knew would be low as I had not had my testosterone injection  for 4 weeks instead of 3.

They have referred me to the Andropause clinic which is more specialised so I go there next week.

 

In the meantime, I have taken matters into my own hands.  In the above threads, people said one injection every 3 weeks probably wasn't enough so last month I have changed the interval and started having them every 2 weeks instead.  After 3 shots closer together,  I have felt a difference - more alert, easier to get aroused.  

 

Now, I hope this isn't too specific (please bear with me, admin) but someone mentioned on this thread and on mine above about getting aroused more and maybe trying another girl.

 

I think this has been part of my problem in that my wife will be 52 next month, is well into the menopause and never had a high libido before.  She is always willing to partake, but not initiate.

She's always been into plain vanilla sex and is not very inventive, so I have to be.  She'll always comply (within limits) to what I suggest we start doing, but until last month she would never play with herself.

 

Last month I suggested that it would be helpful for me if she did and so she started, breasts at first and then later, her twinkle.  That helped a LOT, and she has become a lot less inhibited once she got over her initial embarrassment.  

 

I also increased my Kamagra to one tablet taken about 7.30 pm, followed by one gel about 9 pm.  I know it's a high dose and I know all the possible problems, but so far it's worked quite well.  And we try to have sex once weekly because that's what seems to be about the best interval for us.  

 

We have had 4 bonks in the last 4 weeks, and one was spectacular, just like old times.  The others took longer, and in fits and starts but always ended well - perhaps needing stimulation from other parts of the body ...

 

But there's another issue - vaginal dryness.  We start well and then things seem to feel 'different' and I realised a while back that the juices weren't flowing freely.  That softens me, and although we do oral sex and use a moisturising gel, that tends to get dry and sticky around the outside which makes things worse.  It's called Clinigel but I need to find a better one soon - one with more 'slip'.
Any suggestions from personal experience?

 

I actually think that I am lucky to have her, despite her being not too adventurous, because she is patient, compliant and doesn't complain and will do whatever it takes.  And I always ensure she has a happy ending by one means or another ...  

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Read the Bible. Moses was still getting it on, IIRC the phrase is "His natural force was unabated".

There is absolutely nothing wrong with older people having sex. Your attitude to it is astounding.

" There may be snow on the roof but there's still fire in the furnace "

https://www.health.harvard.edu/promotions/harvard-health-publications/sexuality-in-midlife-sep2019-test?utm_source=delivra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PA20210606-Sexuality&utm_id=2981254&dlv-emuid=67e316ff-f46c-4805-8347-e18cba0b20c3&dlv-mlid=2981254

Yes, VigRXPlus is pricey - but, if you want to chance your 'arm' (so to speak!), order 'in bulk' - 6 boxes (6 months supply) is about 330 dollars, 230 pounds or just over 10, 000 baht.

 

12 months supply is 590 dollars, 417 pounds, 18, 500 baht. (prices from US website).   All plus shipping.

 

BUT don't blame me if it doesn't work!                        (although if at first you don't succeed, have fun trying again!)

 

As we know, so much depends upon one's individual constitution, general health and body 'tolerance'.

On 6/5/2021 at 1:51 PM, Dazinoz said:

With a name like HurrySeaman I am wary of your post.

 

Oh, its Harry, sorry.????

Yes, Harry Seaman, a bearded sailor.  Came up with the nom de plum while sitting at the computer on my 37' sailboat/home, which at the time was docked and connected to the internet via a telephone line.

4 hours ago, GoFaster said:

Moringa powder and juice every morning has had astonishing results for me. So much so in fact that the wife has had to bring her sister onboard to help share the load so to speak. Have started to decrease the powder amount by half now as I overheard wifey asking her sister if they should bring their mother in as well. Scared she might hurt me...

 

Moringa in Thai is 'maroom'.

 

I asked my wife who studied and does Thai herbal medicine, and she just happened to be talking on the phone to her sister who has a PhD in biochemistry and works for a company which specialises in herbal cosmetic and other products.

I spoke to the sister and she asked me if the powder you use comes from the leaf or the seeds, because apparently they are quite different.  Also how much you take and how - capsules, powder in water, what?  

When you say juice, is it just the powder mixed with water or is it a manufactured product sold in a bottle?  If so, what name and where can you  get it?

 

I'm not a big believer in all the 'natural/herbal/organic' industry's claims, but I'd be prepared to try something for a week or so to check it out. 

28 minutes ago, HarrySeaman said:

Yes, Harry Seaman, a bearded sailor.  Came up with the nom de plum while sitting at the computer on my 37' sailboat/home, which at the time was docked and connected to the internet via a telephone line.

So no connection to Captain Pugwash then ?

On 6/6/2021 at 7:00 AM, elgenon said:

I would appreciate it if you care to elaborate on this statement. Either on the thread or in PM.

Can't think of much to add to what I said.  The one thing I have never tried is testosterone replacement, which isn't compatible with my heart problem.  Friends who have tried it report that it helps some but it isn't a magic cure.

 

The reductions of libido and ability are part and parcel of surviving longer than the average male.  Of course when those things happen varies from individual to individual.

 

I don' have the active sex life I had 20 years ago, but living in Thailand I can have a friendly younger lady visit me and provide an enjoyable and thoroughly satisfying experience whenever I ask.  That's a damn site better sex life than that of men my age back in the USA.

 

I always tell my younger friends, "Getting old comes with problems and isn't always fun but you can make it a lot better than the alternative.  It just takes the right attitude toward life and a little work".

4 hours ago, Mister Fixit said:

But there's another issue - vaginal dryness.  We start well and then things seem to feel 'different' and I realised a while back that the juices weren't flowing freely.  That softens me, and although we do oral sex and use a moisturising gel, that tends to get dry and sticky around the outside which makes things worse.  It's called Clinigel but I need to find a better one soon - one with more 'slip'.
Any suggestions from personal experience?

 well there's always yo olde tried'n'true Virgin Coconut Oil trick  as used by ancestors... 

44 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

One of these may help.

but don't order the Thai one.

 

Falang on top Thai one below. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

 

The doctor suggested to use one of these for 10 minutes a day.

Anyone use them?

1 hour ago, tifino said:

 well there's always yo olde tried'n'true Virgin Coconut Oil trick  as used by ancestors... 

Never tried that - we have about half a litre in the kitchen.  Way-hay!  ????

 

Does it leave any stickiness or mess?

20 minutes ago, Mister Fixit said:

Never tried that - we have about half a litre in the kitchen.  Way-hay!  ????

 

Does it leave any stickiness or mess?

Well that's not the problem, its the ants who love the sweetness of it the problem????

6 minutes ago, Excel said:

Well that's not the problem, its the ants who love the sweetness of it the problem????

No ants in our bed - might be other bugs though!  

And I take a tablespoon every day and it isn't sweet to me.  

The test is very different.  See Dr. Pansak at VitaLife at Bumrungrad.  he will explain everything.  You will have more energy and hornier than you've ever been

3 hours ago, Mister Fixit said:

 

Moringa in Thai is 'maroom'.

 

I asked my wife who studied and does Thai herbal medicine, and she just happened to be talking on the phone to her sister who has a PhD in biochemistry and works for a company which specialises in herbal cosmetic and other products.

I spoke to the sister and she asked me if the powder you use comes from the leaf or the seeds, because apparently they are quite different.  Also how much you take and how - capsules, powder in water, what?  

When you say juice, is it just the powder mixed with water or is it a manufactured product sold in a bottle?  If so, what name and where can you  get it?

 

I'm not a big believer in all the 'natural/herbal/organic' industry's claims, but I'd be prepared to try something for a week or so to check it out. 

Moringa is also called the Tree of Life and there are some very passionate people preaching its virtues on YouTube. I have 4 trees in my back yard and the rate these things grow at is incredible. I make my own powder by drying the leaves and then grind  with a spice grinder. I add 1 tablespoon to my muesli every morning and make fresh juice by adding water to fresh leaves and blending then straining. Makes a very dark green fresh almost grassy tasting concentrate which I then add about 150 ml to 350 ml of kombucha  that I make. I also use the juice as a fertilizer on my pepper plants. I do eat the seeds when available but they have a tendency to make you a bit loose if you eat a whole pod or "Drumstick" as they are sometimes called. The local Thai people come looking for the seed pods every now and then and I get the impression they treat them almost like a medicine. Probably need to use it for more than a week to see any long term benefits.

1 hour ago, Makoshark said:

The test is very different.  See Dr. Pansak at VitaLife at Bumrungrad.  he will explain everything.  You will have more energy and hornier than you've ever been

So I would guess then if Dr Pansak is a believer in his own medicinal recommendations he will be running around Bumrungrad banging all available nurses ????????

7 minutes ago, GoFaster said:

Moringa is also called the Tree of Life and there are some very passionate people preaching its virtues on YouTube. I have 4 trees in my back yard and the rate these things grow at is incredible. I make my own powder by drying the leaves and then grind  with a spice grinder. I add 1 tablespoon to my muesli every morning and make fresh juice by adding water to fresh leaves and blending then straining. Makes a very dark green fresh almost grassy tasting concentrate which I then add about 150 ml to 350 ml of kombucha  that I make. I also use the juice as a fertilizer on my pepper plants. I do eat the seeds when available but they have a tendency to make you a bit loose if you eat a whole pod or "Drumstick" as they are sometimes called. The local Thai people come looking for the seed pods every now and then and I get the impression they treat them almost like a medicine. Probably need to use it for more than a week to see any long term benefits.

Thanks.  Don't have any trees, but I see the leaf powder on Lazada at 90 baht for 100 grams and other pack sizes.  500 grams is 400 baht and a kilo is 690.

 

Might be worth getting 500 grams and seeing what happens.

As someone has already said, get your prostate checked out before going further.

 

There is a treatment that as you will see - gets to the 'root' of the problem and is used when Viagra etc. have failed.

 

Muse:

 

https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/9526/smpc

 

I don't know if Muse is available in Thailand - can't see why not but as with any medication, check with a doctor before using it.  I can't comment on its efficacy, I was told about it following treatment for prostate cancer, fortunately 'things' returned to normal for me.

11 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Read the Bible. Moses was still getting it on, IIRC the phrase is "His natural force was unabated".

There is absolutely nothing wrong with older people having sex. Your attitude to it is astounding.

i am not in minority, you and certain tvf members are

10 hours ago, scammed said:

i am not in minority, you and certain tvf members are

Ah, you mean those who don't agree with your docile passivity and lack of initiative?

The problem with penis pumps is that you need to use them immediately prior to sex, then put some kind of restriction around the base of your penis to keep it hard. So it might work, but the girl will probably be a bit freaked out by it. Frankly, if I get to that situation, I just wouldn't bother.

On 6/7/2021 at 2:37 PM, HarrySeaman said:

The reductions of libido and ability are part and parcel of surviving longer than the average male.  Of course when those things happen varies from individual to individual.

 

I can't help but think that young men who are working can only dream of being retired and not having to work, and old retired men can only dream of being young and having a fully functioning body. Life is very ironic sometimes, you always want what you don't have at that particular time, then when you get it, you want something else.

On 6/7/2021 at 8:34 PM, scammed said:

i am not in minority, you and certain tvf members are

I can only speculate you have been subjected to some kind of trauma, or have had cult brainwashing, to be rejecting what is a perfectly normal, natural and healthy human activity in your early forties. IMO you need professional help.

On 6/5/2021 at 10:04 PM, Sheryl said:

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2050052119300083?via%3Dihub

 

Thanks. it looked like the third and fourth were the same.

On 6/6/2021 at 6:03 PM, Mister Fixit said:

The 4th article is a duplicate link to the third article.

I am aware of that so I thought maybe she accidentally repeated the third instead of listing the fourth. Obviously she would know the number she posted was four. Apparently I was wrong.

On 6/7/2021 at 12:37 AM, HarrySeaman said:

Can't think of much to add to what I said.  The one thing I have never tried is testosterone replacement, which isn't compatible with my heart problem.  Friends who have tried it report that it helps some but it isn't a magic cure.

 

The reductions of libido and ability are part and parcel of surviving longer than the average male.  Of course when those things happen varies from individual to individual.

 

I don' have the active sex life I had 20 years ago, but living in Thailand I can have a friendly younger lady visit me and provide an enjoyable and thoroughly satisfying experience whenever I ask.  That's a damn site better sex life than that of men my age back in the USA.

 

I always tell my younger friends, "Getting old comes with problems and isn't always fun but you can make it a lot better than the alternative.  It just takes the right attitude toward life and a little work".

I was wondering if you would elaborate on what is a "satisfying visit" If you can't get an erection. Curious.

I'm 60 too. Not a user of any age-related maintenance meds, proportionate weight, Cialis does work for me but it is expensive.  Also, I tend not to need it on the regular, just good for times when a little helper may be needed.

 

If you are waking with an erection, then physically, there's not much wrong with "the plumbing", and it's more likely other issues such as, stress, anxiety etc. 

 

I understand Cialis does not help the OP, and that sounds very unusual.

 

Is it possible the OP is being sold fake Cialis from a licensed pharmacy?

 

I know at least two Sukhumvit area pharmacies who pass off fake Cialis as real. 

 

How can you tell?

 

Fake Cialis uses a clear plastic base on the blister pack. Real Cialis has a matt foil blister pack, the medicine is not visible inside the foil seal.

 

The image shows generic Tadalafil (The ingredient in Cialis) from India. This works well for me at a fraction of the price of Cialis.

 

Also never buy on the streets, even if it's genuine Apcalis, it's stored in roasting hot unhygenic places.