26 minutes ago, meechai said:

So how many Flu/Pneumonia deaths a day average is that in 2018 PRE COVID?  122 !!

 

How many are dying now of covid according to Thai stats? 20-50 a day?

 

Geez buy a calculator & use some reason & logic Covid has been in full force in Thailand since 2019 period

 

Agree with you are saying, I was yelling this out ages ago, however with the variants, the spread is multiplied by much more and the deaths will increase to probably around the same as Pneumonia in the next few months I would sadly say with this Delta variant, meaning more spread, more infected, more deaths.

 

Buckle up for the ride and stay safe.

4 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

You do notice that this is a TRIAL just started a few days ago, so no results know yet, though other countries trials have shown that ivermectin does NOT work.

 

Glad that the TV virologists already know the results

Typically, the more rigorous the clinical trial, the less effective Ivermectin is shown to be. It’s really effective when dispensed by a sole practitioner to his preferred patients.

 

I have not yet understood anything in Thai mathematics, they have ceased to count the new Corona-virus patients but where do the 5400 new ones come out today?

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Well the UK was recording 50-70,000 positive cases a day back in January.   What exactly do you want to do with the people testing positive should Thailand get to even 50% of these numbers?   How do the logistics work of even feeding and accommodating this many people if you do not just send them home if they are not sick?   

 

i have no idea, i was just stating its been tried before and i see no reason the result will be different here. my thesis has always been TH is effed once it hits 3K per day. now it doesn't matter what they do, they don't have enough vaccine

 

a short sharp lockdown was needed nationwide 2 months ago, instead songkran was allowed, multiple fronts were opened up and now we are here. effed.

 

 

10 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

 

 

Why.    What harm could the double vaccinated, quadruple tested, GPS tracked tourists coming in possibly do there?  

they will find away to blame them for the impending cluster..........

15 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Aren't asymptomatic or mild cases going to field hospitals. It's critical care and ICU which is overloaded.

I think they go to field hospitals if the hospital hospitals are full as they are an overflow strategy.

13 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Testing was not stopped. It's being limited to available beds, which means the system is now wrong. It was never intended for high numbers. The failure is not having a better system to put in place when numbers rise.

 

 

Are the test numbers counted or not counted? because counting the number of tests based on the available beds that are equal to zero seems to me a tragic comic comedy

 

48 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I feel as though there is a tsunami of delta cases coming and the authorities are building walls of sand on the beach to stop it.

I agree, You might be seeing Delta now

https://www.newsdirectory3.com/covid-19-infected-today-chonburi-hit-the-highest-in-3-months-surpassing-390-cases-check-the-cluster-urgently/

 

Covid-19 infected’ today, Chonburi hit the highest in 3 months, surpassing 390 cases, check the cluster urgently

Posts referencing an unapproved source and replies have been removed.  Also posts discussing various medications not approved for Covid have been removed.  

More than 200 Cambodian workers showed up at Kab Cherng immigration checkpoint in Surin province on Sunday to return to their homeland following the government’s order to shut down construction camps.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002541

Finally a hub

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Seen that for a fact......? Or simply whimsical?

There was an official announcement from the Thai authorities that they were going to deploy the military to seal off the camps.

 

It was reported on various local news outlets, both Thai and English language.

 

Here's just one example.

 

Military, police deployed to seal off nearly 600 construction worker camps

 

And here's the picture accompanying the article.

 

 

18 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said:

 

Are the test numbers counted or not counted? because counting the number of tests based on the available beds that are equal to zero seems to me a tragic comic comedy

 

Don’t forget that a couple thousand beds are vacated each day.

10 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

i have no idea, i was just stating its been tried before and i see no reason the result will be different here. my thesis has always been TH is effed once it hits 3K per day. now it doesn't matter what they do, they don't have enough vaccine

 

a short sharp lockdown was needed nationwide 2 months ago, instead songkran was allowed, multiple fronts were opened up and now we are here. effed.

 

 

 

From what I saw from the UK, no matter how perfect someone's hindsight is, it doesn't offer any solutions to the current predicament.   Based on what happened in other countries it should not be unreasonable to expect that Thailands case numbers will be in the tens of thousands per day within a few weeks or a month or two, but it really depends on how much testing capacity as to whether we actually see that number and whether that even reflects the reality.  

 

I think the time has probably come for people to start asking themselves the difficult questions.   Such as, is this country safe for me if the numbers of cases get that high? Do I even have the option to get out of here?  Is it realistic to expect a vaccine anytime soon if in a vulnerable category?   Lockdowns, no matter how severe, have not really made that much difference in countries where the case numbers are in tens of thousands per day and if Thailand starts appearing on the red list of other countries then it will be increasingly difficult to get a flight out of here.   

51 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Maybe it's time to stop putting healthy people without symptoms in hospital then and try the somewhat radical approach of only admitting people to hospital that are actually sick.   Just a thought.   

Healthy people don't test positive for Covid, they are still carriers and can infect others. Ergo why Thailand does it their way.

9 minutes ago, anchadian said:

More than 200 Cambodian workers showed up at Kab Cherng immigration checkpoint in Surin province on Sunday to return to their homeland following the government’s order to shut down construction camps.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002541

I am guessing that they were dropped off at the border with Cambodia. No idea under what conditions Cambodia will let them in.

42 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Well the UK was recording 50-70,000 positive cases a day back in January.   What exactly do you want to do with the people testing positive should Thailand get to even 50% of these numbers?   How do the logistics work of even feeding and accommodating this many people if you do not just send them home if they are not sick?   

 

Send them to Phuket and call them tourists.

 

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

Can you provide some numbers to back that up. I don’t recall numbers as high as 5k before, other than on two days when prison cases were dumped. And also don’t recall cases of 4K other than the last week. Prior to that I don’t recall cases of 3k for anything other than a couple of weeks.

 

are you seriously saying that cases haven’t been steadily rising, despite the shortfall in testing? And check out the 7 day rolling average chart. See anything there that says cases arent rapidly rising?

They went from 2.5k to 3k to 4k very fast. Now this one for 5k. Couple of months ago 8k but that was lots of inmates

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

Can you provide some numbers to back that up. I don’t recall numbers as high as 5k before, other than on two days when prison cases were dumped. And also don’t recall cases of 4K other than the last week. Prior to that I don’t recall cases of 3k for anything other than a couple of weeks.

 

are you seriously saying that cases haven’t been steadily rising, despite the shortfall in testing? And check out the 7 day rolling average chart. See anything there that says cases arent rapidly rising?

Exponential increase is orders of magnitude...like doubling and doubling again; again we don't see it. The situation is unfortunate but hardly dire...even a mostly vaccinated UK (similar population) is reporting 15k daily cases so 5k in a mostly unvaccinated population isn't so bad.

Just to throw my thoughts into the melting pot. What is now going to happen after the mass exodus from Bangkok over the weekend thanks to being forewarned about today's sealing up the construction camps and the like?? I have a feeling that the numbers are not going to look good in the next few weeks!!

Just now, worrab said:

Just to throw my thoughts into the melting pot. What is now going to happen after the mass exodus from Bangkok over the weekend thanks to being forewarned about today's sealing up the construction camps and the like?? I have a feeling that the numbers are not going to look good in the next few weeks!!

Except for the migrants scrambling back to their home countries.

Bang, its here, no lockdowns, no effective measures to control it and not enough vaccines. What to do..............open Phuket to tourists!

 

What could be done instead, lockdown now the red zones, its science at its most basic

 

Rolling 7 day average (up to 26th June only) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

53 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

i think they tried this in the UK with full rent, furloughs and 80% income no less. didn't work out too well.

 

how do you think thailand will get on with no rent moratorium or income provisions?

 

 

Thailand cant even afford vaccines. How could they afford that? Free rent and money

Opinion: Thailand can no longer tolerate incompetence even if it means wholesale changes

 

No matter what your political persuasion is, if you’re a patriotic Thai then you want the Prayut Chan-ocha government to succeed in its fight against the Covid-19 pandemic.

 

Too many of our countrymen have died or are dying, suffered or continue to suffer, for us to wish for a government that can come up with a solution that would guide us out of this mess.

 

But after a year and a half of mismanagement, the reality is that this government is not up to the task.

 

More:

https://www.thaienquirer.com/29032/opinion-thailand-can-no-longer-tolerate-incompetence-even-if-it-means-wholesale-changes/

14 minutes ago, James105 said:

Lockdowns, no matter how severe, have not really made that much difference in countries where the case numbers are in tens of thousands per day and if Thailand starts appearing on the red list of other countries then it will be increasingly difficult to get a flight out of here.   

Can you show evidence of that? ie lockdowns have not made much difference?

50 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Agree with you are saying, I was yelling this out ages ago, however with the variants, the spread is multiplied by much more and the deaths will increase to probably around the same as Pneumonia in the next few months I would sadly say with this Delta variant, meaning more spread, more infected, more deaths.

 

Buckle up for the ride and stay safe.

The Delta Variant is not good news for anyone that has had 2 jabs of Sinovac. In several countries it doesn't work

Dan

Is this a Super Artifact, Apostle or Towering Inferno ?

8 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Opinion: Thailand can no longer tolerate incompetence even if it means wholesale changes

 

No matter what your political persuasion is, if you’re a patriotic Thai then you want the Prayut Chan-ocha government to succeed in its fight against the Covid-19 pandemic.

 

Too many of our countrymen have died or are dying, suffered or continue to suffer, for us to wish for a government that can come up with a solution that would guide us out of this mess.

 

But after a year and a half of mismanagement, the reality is that this government is not up to the task.

 

More:

https://www.thaienquirer.com/29032/opinion-thailand-can-no-longer-tolerate-incompetence-even-if-it-means-wholesale-changes/

Scathing.

Just now, Swimfan said:

Dan

Is this a Super Artifact, Apostle or Towering Inferno ?

It is possible that today’s numbers are a result of insufficient lab processing once daily infections surpassed 4,000, ie the real number for the last two days may have been 4,500, not 4,000. If so, there will be a sharp drop tomorrow.