5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Transparency... Not!

 

Details of vaccine procurement cannot be made public because contracts say so – DPM Wissanu

 

Thailand’s Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam explained today (Tuesday) that details of all vaccine procurement contracts, signed between the country’s Ministry of Public Health and vaccine producers, either for government inoculation programs or on behalf of private companies, cannot be made public because the contracts say so.

 

Talking to the media this morning at Government House, before the cabinet is due to consider the Public Health Ministry’s contract to procure the Pfizer vaccine, the deputy prime minister said that only contracts which need funding from the government need to be approved by the cabinet.

 

He insisted that COVID-19 vaccines are a sensitive issue, unlike other products, because the producers or the vendors, have the bargaining power.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/details-of-vaccine-procurement-cannot-be-made-public-because-contracts-say-so-says-dpm-wissanu/

 

So in essence a Non-Disclosure agreement keeps them from being seen

From the total 5,420 cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 4,070 were found via tests at medical facilities

- 1,305 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 37 via proactive in prisons

- 8 imported cases

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1412283903675494404

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Screenshot from government televised news briefing

 

So there we have it, 4,070 hospital walk ins, the ones that actually managed to get a test and ended up testing positive.

 

Then only 1,305 positive cases through active testing throughout the whole of Thailand.

 

Disgraceful stats.

Vaccinations from Monday, reported today, just pass 280,000 total doses given -- while Thailand needs to be giving more than 500,000 doses per day to meet its goal of vaccinating 70% of the population by year's end.

 

 

Screen capture from televised government news briefing

 

Cumulative vaccination stats:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/posts/358795112405486

 

 

Medics urgently need mRNA jabs, say doctors

 

The “Mor Mai Thon” (Doctors Won’t Tolerate) group is demanding that the government procure mRNA vaccines for frontline medics after the leaked minutes of a meeting about the distribution of donated Pfizer vaccines created an uproar on social media on Sunday.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002889

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The Intervac website has been updated with the promise of vaccines becoming available for foreigners age 60 and above and those with chronic medical conditions:

 

 

https://www.thailandintervac.com/

 

This time, the latest version appears to abandon having foreign nationals make appointments online at the government website, and instead appears to be directing foreigners to contact and book appointments directly thru the two hospitals.

 

 

 

Do you know in advance whether you will get AZ or Sinovac?  Is Sinovac worth having?

 

Our province reported less than a dozen cases yesterday. My brother in law, who's in the police, laughed at me last night when I said Covid wasn't so bad here. He (and presumably his colleagues) views any numbers as fiction. They've apparently had almost as many cases to date among the BiB as have been reported for the whole province.

 

I'd posit that the daily figures are at best an extremely rough guide to what's really going on. A  very large pinch of salt....

The number of people in ICU and on VENTILATORS:

 

26 June: 1,662/470

27 June: 1,725/489

28 June: 1,806/510

29 June: 1,846/527

30 June: 1,911/556

1 July: 1,971/566

2 July: 2,002/579

3 July: 2,045/589

4 July: 2,147/616

5 July: 2,199/603

6 July: 2,350/643 <— Today

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1412285684203749376

 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

So there we have it, 4,070 hospital walk ins, the ones that actually managed to get a test and ended up testing positive.

 

Then only 1,305 positive cases through active testing throughout the whole of Thailand.

 

Disgraceful stats.

It does show you how overwhelmed the system is becoming and how scared they must be if they test and find thousands of more cases.  Where do they put them as everything is filling up fast.  Then to add insult to injury how many may die at home because they never were tested, were sick and needed treatment.  As you say it is disgraceful and this current administration has failed their people miserably, but still insists that everything will be ok, and pushes to open up the country by mid October.  Not seeing how that can work.   Get your house in order first, put the vaccines in play, stop messing around and lying and move forward.  What is it so damned hard for these people to see it, as it is right in front of their faces, yet they stare blindly at it and blinking like its not true.

Just now, retsdon said:

I'd posit that the daily figures are at best an extremely rough guide to what's really going on. A  very large pinch of salt....

 

I'd wager that's a pretty accurate description of the general situation.

 

1 minute ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Do you know in advance whether you will get AZ or Sinovac?  Is Sinovac worth having?

 

AZ if you can......Sinovac better than nothing.....you can always get something else later Moderna/Pfizer

1 minute ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Do you know in advance whether you will get AZ or Sinovac?  Is Sinovac worth having?

 

I signed up for the AZ vaccine the first go around and obtained it just 2 weeks ago on the 24th.  My personal belief is that the AZ vaccine is far above the Sinovac vaccine, but that is my opinion after looking at the studies and stories of late.

Today there are 57 deaths in #Thailand

 

35 males & 22 females

Median age is 62 (25-91 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (33), Samut Prakan (4), plus 6 provinces with 2 each and 8 provinces with 1 each

7 with no underlying conditions

11 infected by family members

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1412286851168178176

 

Just now, anchadian said:

Today there are 57 deaths in #Thailand

 

35 males & 22 females

Median age is 62 (25-91 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (33), Samut Prakan (4), plus 6 provinces with 2 each and 8 provinces with 1 each

7 with no underlying conditions

11 infected by family members

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1412286851168178176

 

Another youngster at 25, so all of those folks who state its an old persons sickness and the average age of those dying is in the 80's needs to pound sand, as they are far off of the truth, as one can see todays median average of those that died is 62.

There have been a lot of attacks against doctors in India by relatives upset that patients couldn't beds and/or have died. Most occurred a few weeks ago at the peak of the current delta wave there.  Now delta is already over 50% in Bkk, let's hope that doesn't happen here but the pictures of patients slumped outside Ramathibodi Hospital are a worrying sign of what might be in store. Here is one of the reports.

 

https://www.ndtv.com/video/news/news/on-camera-doctors-attacked-after-covid-patient-dies-at-delhi-hospital-584197

 

The 3rd wave had led to 265,790 cases and 2,239 deaths since April 1 with a mortality rate of 0.84%.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1412284241677754377

 

Out of 5,375 local cases (outside of prison) most in

 

Bangkok - 1,492

Samut Sakhon - 398

Samut Prakan - 318

Chonburi - 266

Pattani - 262

Nonthaburi - 242

Pathum Thani - 208

Nakhon Pathom - 206

Yala - 135

Songkhla - 132

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1412288926627221504

 

13 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The number of people in ICU and on VENTILATORS:

 

26 June: 1,662/470

27 June: 1,725/489

28 June: 1,806/510

29 June: 1,846/527

30 June: 1,911/556

1 July: 1,971/566

2 July: 2,002/579

3 July: 2,045/589

4 July: 2,147/616

5 July: 2,199/603

6 July: 2,350/643 <— Today

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1412285684203749376

 

My gosh. Just look at that increase in 11 days. The future looks pretty bleak for likely daily death counts.

 

 

 

Screenshots from televised government news briefing

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (July 6, 2021) About 4.59 percent of the population is fully vaccinated. 8,022,029 (+217,375) people have received the first dose, while 3,036,361 (+63,267) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #ฉีดวัคซีน #COVID19 #Thailand #KE

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1412290560400838660

 

Today's televised government news briefing acknowledges announced plans to reactivate efforts to resume registering foreign nationals for COVID vaccinations in Bangkok.

 

The upcoming round of vaccination opportunities is supposed to focus on those age 60 and above and with chronic medical conditions.

 

No mention of any specific efforts to register / vaccinate vulnerable foreign nationals in areas outside of Bangkok.

 

 

Screenshot of government news briefing

 

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I'm not kidding; unfortunately, I can't see the current rates declining dramatically for a long time, and vaccinating the population will take even longer.  So should schools remain closed for 3 months, 6 months, a year?   When would you open schools?

 

Let's turn it right back around and ask you:  How many people are you willing to see killed from COVID in order to open schools again.  10,000 -- 20,000 -- 50,000?

 

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

 

Screenshots from televised government news briefing

How long will they stick to the goals stated in that second screen shot I wonder?
 

Even as we speak healthy young people in Samui are probably getting their shots, and plenty of other groups are clamoring to be part of the opening up to tourism and therefore need their shots.

 

if they don’t get Bangkok done in two weeks, that will delay the vicinity area, and in turn delay provinces.

 

I applaud their intent, but political interference in terms of vaccine allocation, plus low supplies to begin with, mean they are up against it.

Breakdown from MoPH today on virus variant breakdown in Thailand nationally, for Bangkok, and for other provinces as a group:

 

 

Screenshot of government news briefing

 

Also a graphic for Bangkok province showing the areas in yellow where the Delta variant is prevalent:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158124699602050

Don Mueang airport’s cargo terminal to open as new COVID-19 field hospital July 12

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/don-mueang-airports-cargo-terminal-to-open-as-new-covid-19-field-hospital-july-12/

Yesterday, the US had fewer new cases than Thailand. 

Day by day new COVID case tallies for Thailand (first line) and Bangkok province (second line) for the past week:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/358841842400813/?type=3

 

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I'm not kidding; unfortunately, I can't see the current rates declining dramatically for a long time, and vaccinating the population will take even longer.  So should schools remain closed for 3 months, 6 months, a year?   When would you open schools?

You are making the same mistake that the government has made. You are measuring opening in terms of time, not Covid data. We are fighting Covid, not time per se.

 

if the government doesn’t do a better job of containing the virus and deploying vaccinations, it will be a very long time before the Covid data indicates schools can open. 
 

if the government does a very good job on those two things, it will be a shorter period of time.

 

Fauci had it right, the virus sets the time line.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Macrohistory said:

 

Let's turn it right back around and ask you:  How many people are you willing to see killed from COVID in order to open schools again.  10,000 -- 20,000 -- 50,000?

 

 

 I would prefer not see anyone killed by Covid, but unfortunately we're in the midst of a deadly global pandemic.  I don't accept that opening up schools would have any worse consequences than opening up other businesses, but with schools being closed children's education is suffering.  As was the case in the UK, I believe schools need to be one the first types of place to be allowed to re-open.  The question is "when".