crazykopite Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, law ling said: I was spooked by the the bad news here yesterday, so I went to Pattaya City Hospital and asked for a covid vaccine. Many people were there getting their vaccines - and I suddenly thought I had a chance! But the nurse (without making any further enquiry about my situation) told me the vaccine is "for Thais only." Health care here: based on race not need. I live on Koh Phangan i will be leaving home in 20 minutes to have what i hope is my 1st AZ vaccine i registered last week with my pink D card and yellow housebook it seems that all the vaccines have been diverted to those places that are designated sandbox areas if this is true its very unfair my housekeeper had hers on Monday turned up at 7am and her ticket was 938 she managed to get it at 1 pm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, anchadian said: [Breaking] The government has announced new lockdown measures. - work from home - no unnecessary travelling except to buy food and healthcare, - asked not to leave the house between 10 pm and 4 am, - shopping malls closed but supermarkets and markets open https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1413349259294822403 14 days will do nothing. Right now there are people infected who don't know it and are infecting others. 14 days will not break the cycle. There are just to many infected people. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Effective when? Read the twitter post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, dinsdale said: Read the twitter post Thanks I have now; I was reacting to your post. To confirm, it is effective from tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Rising Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: BREAKING! New semi lockdown in Metro Bangkok proposed to start Saturday, lasting 14 days first. Leaving home only for necessary travel & "curfew" imposed 10pm to 4am. Prayut will forego 3 months of salary to help govt. https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1413349272133672963 Prayut should forego - period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, Phoenix Rising said: Prayut should forego - period. completely agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: The lower the number of infections, the less likely a new variant will evolve. Any predicting a new variant in a small infected population is likely going to be wrong. Except in Vietnam, oh and maybe others to come, such as mixing variants in Thailand's quarantines that could well lead to newer variants but there you go, you can revert back to your ":doom monger" label again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Surelynot Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 Looks like covid is coming home 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: BREAKING! New semi lockdown in Metro Bangkok proposed to start Saturday, lasting 14 days first. Leaving home only for necessary travel & "curfew" imposed 10pm to 4am. Prayut will forego 3 months of salary to help govt. https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1413349272133672963 But... but... can I still go to my silly sandbox? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: BREAKING! New semi lockdown in Metro Bangkok proposed to start Saturday, lasting 14 days first. Leaving home only for necessary travel & "curfew" imposed 10pm to 4am. Prayut will forego 3 months of salary to help govt. https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1413349272133672963 does that mena the government now has to pay out to companies ? or is it every man for himself. I live in BKK not so happy about a curfew though. Not for me but for the GF no more evenings alone for me 55555 I dont go out much anyway. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, Blumpie said: But... but... can I still go to my silly sandbox? ???? I doubt it unless they deem that necessary for the economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, smedly said: This thread is hectic, I almost hit the like button for one of my own posts lol Better than nearly hitting the confused button like I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Based on today’s higher numbers, clearly new cases are being identified via contact tracing. oh, wait, you are thinking that I am defending the current process, when I am just explain how it’s being done. You know better than that. And you know that hospital walk-in case numbers are predictive of near term overall numbers. My dear boy you have genuinely lost the plot. Go take a break and reflect on the totality of it all. The button has now been reactivated and I will no longer mind even your posts others have quoted. Enjoy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Except in Vietnam, oh and maybe others to come, such as mixing variants in Thailand's quarantines that could well lead to newer variants but there you go, you can revert back to your ":doom monger" label again If you depend on low probability events, then it's okay to be a Doom and Gloomer. In May, the data showed new case levels that were more or less flat, and declining at times,. The Doom and Gloomers claimed that disaster was coming, but, until the Delta variant arrived en masse in June, the government had a chance to tamp down the third wave. Ironically, at some point back then, I posted that the Doom and Gloomers were predicting that cases would rise to 10,000 a day, and I was blasted for that. So I guess these numbers are a surprise even for the Doom and Gloomers. Edited July 9, 2021 by Danderman123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: BREAKING! New semi lockdown in Metro Bangkok proposed to start Saturday, lasting 14 days first. Leaving home only for necessary travel & "curfew" imposed 10pm to 4am. Prayut will forego 3 months of salary to help govt. https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1413349272133672963 Get the Chinese in to control the dirty Bangkokians, its the only way to protect the rest of the nation. No one in and no one out. Its too late to protect the other provinces that the Bangkokians have already infected but hopefully it will stop them from escaping and infecting more innocent people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, dinsdale said: 14 days will do nothing. Right now there are people infected who don't know it and are infecting others. 14 days will not break the cycle. There are just to many infected people. Thin end of the wedge. 3 weeks in the UK became several months. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Booze Ban? One govenor does it fair chance the lot will. I very much hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 34 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Do you think the government can stop it's course ? No vaccines, no lockdowns = the very high human costs your stating, NATURAL herd immunity is the only path at the moment, can't stop that, unless they obtain more vaccines and put lockdowns in place, which we know isn't going to happen, the latter, maybe, as for vaccines, well they are far away at them moment because these clowns have no idea what they are doing, more interested in having parties I heard, and spreading the virus. You are right of course. Without policy intervention through lockdowns or vaccines, the only option left is natural immunity. it’s the least attractive option but appears to be the path the country is on. I personally think they will get part way through and then realize the enormity of the disaster unfolding and try to switch course. It will be too late and then it will be all about the international community rallying round to help with vaccines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, Danderman123 said: If you depend on low probability events, then it's okay to be a Doom and Gloomer. In May, the data showed new case levels that were more or less flat, and declining at times,. The Doom and Gloomers claimed that disaster was coming, but, until the Delta variant arrived en masse in June, the government had a chance to tamp down the third wave. Ok back to attacking you as requested 5555 How was it a low probability that the Delta variant would arrive given that the Alpha variant arrived too. What made you think Delta would not do the same ? Its likely that any new highly contagious train will arrive in all the countries Thailand included. They might have sealed off the air borders but the land borders are too long to effectively stop people crossing borders. So any variant that is bad will come here eventually. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said: An uprising against the present bunch is the most democratic thing that could happen in Thailand. An Issan revolt could be pay back after so long being deprived and ridiculed by the corrupt and deprived leaders of Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: If you depend on low probability events, then it's okay to be a Doom and Gloomer. In May, the data showed new case levels that were more or less flat, and declining at times,. The Doom and Gloomers claimed that disaster was coming, but, until the Delta variant arrived en masse in June, the government had a chance to tamp down the third wave. Yes another low probability event then was the Alpha variant first discovered in the UK Kent when the covid numbers were flat below 3,000 a day. Doom mongers, bang on the money! From 1st April to now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 A post containing a chart has been removed. This is because the post did not contain a link to the source of the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, robblok said: Ok back to attacking you as requested 5555 How was it a low probability that the Delta variant would arrive given that the Alpha variant arrived too. What made you think Delta would not do the same ? Its likely that any new highly contagious train will arrive in all the countries Thailand included. They might have sealed off the air borders but the land borders are too long to effectively stop people crossing borders. So any variant that is bad will come here eventually. We are not talking about arrival of a variant. Bkk Brian claimed that the Doom and Gloomers were concerned about the imminent evolution of a new variant in Thailand, due to reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes another low probability event then was the Alpha variant first discovered in the UK Kent when the covid numbers were flat below 3,000 a day. Doom mongers, bang on the money! From 1st April to now. Please read a book about the mechanics of evolution of viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, Danderman123 said: Please read a book about the mechanics of evolution of viruses. no thanks, I read your posts thats enough 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Will never happen. Opinion: Thailand’s proposed October reopening needs clarity In mid-June, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha made a speech on national television broadcasting the government’s goal to reopen Thailand within 120 days. Reopening, needless to say, is a highly desirable goal. Take the Phuket Sandbox, which launched to great fanfare and is being heralded as a small but significant first step in Thailand’s reopening to the outside world. As journalist Matt Hunt wrote, despite deep skepticism elsewhere, Phuket’s residents and business owners are optimistic and happy to contribute to make it work. It represents a lifeline after over a year of darkness: an opportunity to bring back income and jobs. https://www.thaienquirer.com/29628/opinion-thailands-proposed-october-reopening-needs-clarity/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: We are not talking about arrival of a variant. Bkk Brian claimed that the Doom and Gloomers were concerned about the imminent evolution of a new variant in Thailand, due to reasons. No idea how likely it is. But what i said was spot on so the doom sayers (as you call them) were right before saying that it would get much higher and you did not take that into account at all. While other variants did arrive. I have no clue if a new variant will evolve in Thailand or elsewhere but there will probably be a new variant in the future and it if its a bad one it will reach every corner of this planet (figure of speech). Just like the other variants did. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 [Update] The government's lockdown measures will affect the following provinces, according to local media. Bangkok, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1413355728874532866 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, tomazbodner said: Seems Thailand is now No.3 in the World! Anutin, you deserve a medal! Actually, this is not correct. Worldometers has a problem where it shows only the last report which can even be zero. To see a more accurate view, you need to select 'yesterday' or 'weekly'. Thailand is now 17th. If, comparing new cases/1M population. Thailand would be even higher. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1? Edited July 9, 2021 by rabas 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, robblok said: No idea how likely it is. But what i said was spot on so the doom sayers (as you call them) were right before saying that it would get much higher and you did not take that into account at all. While other variants did arrive. I have no clue if a new variant will evolve in Thailand or elsewhere but there will probably be a new variant in the future and it if its a bad one it will reach every corner of this planet (figure of speech). Just like the other variants did. Again, before the Delta variant arrived, the Doom and Gloomers were looking at flat levels of new cases, and claiming that things were going to get real bad. I asked what they meant by that, and they declined to give specifics. Brian refused to make predictions, but said that 2,000 cases a day would lead to much suffering. I happened to remember a poster claiming that 10,000 cases were coming, but was challenged if any Doom and Gloomers ever said that. Once the Delta variant arrived, everything changed, and the Doom and Gloomers are taking credit for predicting it was coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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