Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Caldera said: What more does he want to see tightened? Everything is already closed! That’s not quite accurate though. Factories are open. Markets are open. A lot of offices are open. Hence, some mega clusters being announced in factories and markets. I am not saying that they should be closed, simply saying that they are currently open. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, LazySlipper said: Sorry only other alternative is wipe out the population for the almighty dollar. I do not stand by this. Sweden did not wipe out their population and they never locked down and had no face mask regulations. Life is back to normal there now. 5 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, LazySlipper said: Sorry only other alternative is wipe out the population for the almighty dollar. I do not stand by this. I thought the world was still breeding more than were dying? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Gold Star said: I think this new law will cut our comment section in half... Looks like fascism to me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fusion58 Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: They don't take advice from foreigners. Yep. "The Thai way is not only the best way: it's the only way." "Now, maybe if we can lure more rich farangs, we can right this ship..." 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Meat Pie 47 Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Does anyone believe that this government will do as asked, I sure dont. Thailand has an government? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, 2long said: If you're calling other people stupid, please don't write 'them selfs'. Quite right too, nany state suggests attending an elf and safety course pre goblin parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frantick Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Does anyone believe that this government will do as asked, I sure dont. In this case, I hope not. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Gold Star said: I think this new law will cut our comment section in half... There are basically two ways to circumvent it! The lawyer's way: use interrogative form. "Could it be that this government may be innefective?" "Is it really the case that this government doesn't do much?" Trump's way: somebody else said it. "I've been told that this government is ineffective!" "People say that this government doesn't do much!" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kinnock Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 Does anyone care what the WHO says? Their slow and weak response at the start of the pandemic was pathetic, and they've been on the back ever since. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ourmanflint Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 hours ago, pissedoff2am said: Or we could just do what Sweden did (nothing) and get back to life. https://fee.org/articles/daily-covid-deaths-in-sweden-hit-zero-as-other-nations-brace-for-more-lockdowns/amp You do realise Sweden hasn't had to deal with the delta variant yet, just wait until it does then come back 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kinnock Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 hours ago, ourmanflint said: You do realise Sweden hasn't had to deal with the delta variant yet, just wait until it does then come back The Delta variant is already dominant in Sweden. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/covid-19-rise-swedish-cities-delta-outbreaks-dominate-2021-07-23/ 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, 2long said: If you're calling other people stupid, please don't write 'them selfs'. Not everyone posting here is a native English speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 9 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said: Sweden did not wipe out their population and they never locked down and had no face mask regulations. Life is back to normal there now. Sweden's government is recommending wearing face masks on public transport during the rush hour, reversing its earlier Covid guidance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: Sweden's government is recommending wearing face masks on public transport during the rush hour, reversing its earlier Covid guidance. A recommendation is not a regulation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, sucit said: It’s amazing the best run societies on earth all run on the fact that businesses and people have freedom to make their own decisions. And the system runs very efficiently. Yet, during covid, all the sudden, the people can’t decide how to best go about things. Amazing! And all the sudden, government is the most efficient entity on earth. What on earth has government ever run well or efficiently? Letting people free to protect themselves is the only sane answer. You mean like in Brazil, where there are virtually no government restrictions. How did that work out? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, pissedoff2am said: Or we could just do what Sweden did (nothing) and get back to life. https://fee.org/articles/daily-covid-deaths-in-sweden-hit-zero-as-other-nations-brace-for-more-lockdowns/amp Here's a graph comparing Sweden's mortality performance to its 3 Scandinavian neighbors. Each of its numbers has about half the population that Sweden has. Adjusted accordingly, Sweden's performance still doesn't exactly look brilliant. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/sweden Edited July 25, 2021 by placeholder 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Gold Star said: I think this new law will cut our comment section in half... Many on Thaivisa will need to change their underpants after reading this ....... ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Kinnock said: Does anyone care what the WHO says? Their slow and weak response at the start of the pandemic was pathetic, and they've been on the back ever since. and their pathetic attempt at a proper investigation into China's Wuhan lab virus leak theory. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, steven100 said: Many on Thaivisa will need to change their underpants after reading this ....... ???? More attempts at "silencing critics", or will that be the next Phrase on the list and listed as Defamation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 12 hours ago, pissedoff2am said: Never mind that lockdowns have not been proven to lead to better outcomes Italy would disagree with you...after the most severe lockdown in the West, the country is pretty much normalized now. My friend is traveling there this month...everything open, no masks in sight. People working and getting on with life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, pissedoff2am said: YOU can stay locked down permanently, stay home, stay safe, never leave your house again, the rest of us will get back to living....living, which includes dyeing. What's the process of coloring fibers, yarns, or fabrics got to do with covid? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Sweden's government is recommending wearing face masks on public transport during the rush hour, reversing its earlier Covid guidance. Yes only recommended, it was not the law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyIdea Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 12 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: They don't take advice from foreigners. China recommended early that measures implemented in the west were not adequate and western leaders didn't listen either. They're all the same, politicians 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post atpeace Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 10 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said: Sweden did not wipe out their population and they never locked down and had no face mask regulations. Life is back to normal there now. Firstly, not in favor of strict lockdowns but Sweden was far from a success. A sparsely populated county compared to Thailand, roughly 1,500 people died per 1 mil. Population adjusted equals about 100,000 Thais. Roughly 100,000 more Thais would need to perish to equal Sweden success. Common sense - wear masks, stay away from groups and figure out this vaccine screwup. Definitely don't try to emulate Sweden. 7 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sucit Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 42 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You mean like in Brazil, where there are virtually no government restrictions. How did that work out? In the end, About the same as it woulda worked out with govt regulations,as far as covid number are concerned. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sucit Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, atpeace said: Firstly, not in favor of strict lockdowns but Sweden was far from a success. A sparsely populated county compared to Thailand, roughly 1,500 people died per 1 mil. Population adjusted equals about 100,000 Thais. Roughly 100,000 more Thais would need to perish to equal Sweden success. Common sense - wear masks, stay away from groups and figure out this vaccine screwup. Definitely don't try to emulate Sweden. Extremely short sighted and even obtuse not to mention or think about current and projected deaths caused by lockdowns. what is clearly going to happen over time is Swedish deaths are going to be lower relative to other countries. In the end it is going to be close to a wash. Yet, Sweden didn’t lockdown. Make any sense? I would assume not. Edited July 25, 2021 by sucit 3 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeyIdea Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said: Sweden did not wipe out their population and they never locked down and had no face mask regulations. Life is back to normal there now. Read Swedish newspapers from March, April, May, Jule last year, if you can, and you will get a different picture. Read Swedish social media from nurses and doctors during the same time period, if you can, and you will get a totally different picture. Check the numbers for November to February... Last time I read a post from you, you compared Belgium, a country with a population density of 383 per km2 with Sweden which has 25..., Belgium which has many more multi generation households with Sweden, which has among the fewest multi generation households in the world. Disregarding demographics, you came to the conclusion that Sweden had done so well. Hmmm, please compare apples with apples and you get the true picture. May I suggest that you write a post comparing Sweden with Norway, Denmark and Finland, countries with the same demographics. Edited July 25, 2021 by MikeyIdea 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, sucit said: Extremely short sighted and even obtuse not to mention or think about current and projected deaths caused by lockdowns. what is clearly going to happen over time is Swedish deaths are going to be lower relative to other countries. In the end it is going to be close to a wash. Yet, Sweden didn’t lockdown. Make any sense? I would assume not. Here again is the graph I posted on the previous page. Explain this away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pissedoff2am Posted July 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, atpeace said: Firstly, not in favor of strict lockdowns but Sweden was far from a success. A sparsely populated county compared to Thailand, roughly 1,500 people died per 1 mil. Population adjusted equals about 100,000 Thais. Roughly 100,000 more Thais would need to perish to equal Sweden success. Common sense - wear masks, stay away from groups and figure out this vaccine screwup. Definitely don't try to emulate Sweden. How many Thai's lives will be destroyed by these lockdowns? How many suicides, ruined business, lost schooling, social issues. There is a HEAVY price for this that you are dismissing. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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