Thailand reports daily record of 16,533 new coronavirus cases

[ThailandRyan]

21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

House Speaker Chuan Leekpai said he has asked Foreign Minister Don Paramatwinai to flex some friendly muscle and ask for vaccine donation from the US which has 50 million doses left over. Don says MOFA is working on it and nothing has come out of it yet.

 

https://twitter.com/Thai_Talk/status/1420241740036939781

https://www.matichon.co.th/politics/news_2853388

 

Begging from the trough of those who have stolen the Valor of Thailand.  Nice.

[beano2274]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You obviously know the answer, but just don't want to acknowledge it.. But I'll answer anyway...

 

1. the new Delta variant is much more contagious than the original and UK versions of the virus.

 

2. While the typical drugstore and cloth type face masks worn by most Thais help reduce virus spread, they're not nearly as effective as the better / more effective N95 class masks that most Thais don't have and probably can't either source or afford.

 

In Germany there was a time when only medical masks were allowed to be worn, no cloth ones, this I believe helped keep the infection rates down

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

34 minutes ago, bestie said:

Well, that's people with money and purchasing power who will die.

well, it is people with no money and no purchasing power who die from the lockdowns most, and those poor people do not interest much the rich and the FACE SAVING people

[robblok]

All those foreigners suffering so badly under the lockdowns should just go back to their home countries if they cannot follow the rules in Thailand. 

 

Why subject yourself to it when you hate it and don't want it when there is a way to avoid it.

 

I guess being in Thailand in lockdown still beats their home country why else would they stay.

[pkrv]

29 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

House Speaker Chuan Leekpai said he has asked Foreign Minister Don Paramatwinai to flex some friendly muscle and ask for vaccine donation from the US which has 50 million doses left over. Don says MOFA is working on it and nothing has come out of it yet.

 

https://twitter.com/Thai_Talk/status/1420241740036939781

https://www.matichon.co.th/politics/news_2853388

 

Now going cap in hand for free donations? But will any such donated vaccines be freely distrubuted, or would this just be another opportunity for skimming and profit?

[anchadian]

WEDNESDAY: 16,533 new cases and 178,270 patients in care. 67,084 are in hospitals & 111,186 are in field hospitals. 4,325 patients are in a serious condition & 995 are on ventilators. Since the pandemic started, 543,361 people have been infected & 4,397 died #Thailand #COVID19

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1420252443477123072

[Dogmatix]

When was it that some dopey official warned that cases could reach 10,000 a day within 3 months if the public didn't do its bit?  Now we are knocking on the 20,000 door with only reported cases and a stunningly low level of testing. I would argue that the public has been doing its bit but with hands tied behind the back. 

 

In reality we must be at least at the 50,000-60,000 mark and deaths must be hugely understated too, since they don't normally bother to test corpses. 

[Dogmatix]

10 minutes ago, beano2274 said:

In Germany there was a time when only medical masks were allowed to be worn, no cloth ones, this I believe helped keep the infection rates down

The cloth masks, like the ones with stars and stripes designs worn by brain dead American politicians, are fairly useless.

[anchadian]

New clusters in #Thailand:

 

Pathum Thani (factory) +8

Chonburi (construction camps and factory) +142

Kanchanaburi (Saen Tor Sub-District Community) +428

Suphanburi (chicken processing plant) +59

Ratchaburi (factory and a resort in Suan Pheung) +49

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1420253949949480961

 

[khunpa]

Since the big leader has announced this will only be like this a few more weeks, I am no longer worried.

 

He will fix this, just as he fixed the air pollution in Chiang Mai.

 

Don’t worry guys… He has it under control!

[rabas]

6 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

The cloth masks, like the ones with stars and stripes designs worn by brain dead American politicians, are fairly useless.

There's a potentially fake news statement. The quality of a mask in not affected by what is printed on it.

[anchadian]

Phetchabun identified a sugar factory There are more than 90 employees infected. The province ordered the immediate closure of the village lockdown.

 

On July 28, the people of Si Thep District were in a state of panic. after report More than 90 employees at Thai Rung Rueng Industrial Plant, Village No. 9, Si Thep Subdistrict, Si Thep District, has been infected with more than 90 cases, while there is a list of 6 villages in high -risk monitoring areas in Si Thep District, and more than 100 people have contaminated. Identified as a patient living with a factory worker Therefore, it was designated as a high -risk monitoring area. 

 

https://newsfounded.com/thailandeng/phetchabun-ordered-closure-of-sugar-factories-lockdown-villages-more-than-90-employees-were-infected/

[Dogmatix]

2 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

my conclusions after 15 months of observing and studying the corona situation are two:

 

1. lockdowns do not work, because you cannot lock the whole country forever, lockdowns are

only good for helping the system to gain time and to organise.

 

2. vaccines do work, but not in reducing infections. vaccines are good for preventing hard symptoms.

 

3. thailand should look at mexico and do as mexico did. open all country NOW and accept 20-40 thousands covid deaths a year, until full vaccinations.

otherwise, the death toll from broken ecobomy will be much higher.

The current daily death rate is already nearly 50,000 on an annualised basis.  So Thailand is already accepting a higher death toll than Mexico without openig up.  How many would die, if it opened up like Mexico?

[wensiensheng]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Been holding off replying to these pictures from various posters. 

Indeed that is possibly the situation in the morning.  Not sure how many are walk ins. It seems gov or whoever indicated that walk in would stop at some point and that led to big numbers Tuesday. 

My experience yesterday was nothing like that with time slot 4pm + for 60+ yr old farang.

First pic below is the worst one I had 'stand up queue'. That was about 30-40 mins. Next sit down queue area was paperwork and then jab. Not too bad.

 

It was the same in Phuket when I had my jab. Outside the gymnasium (vaccination centre) it was a zoo. People sitting in plastic chairs that were literally touching. All under an awning. Inside was individual chairs correctly spaced out. No one seemed to realize the contradiction.

 

I suspect the inside bit is organized by medical staff, the outside bit by provincial government officials. The difference showed.

[retsdon]

Looking at the pics of people queuing for vaccines like a football crowd it's quite obvious that the whole operation is an utter shambles. 

[Dogmatix]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Been holding off replying to these pictures from various posters. 

Indeed that is possibly the situation in the morning.  Not sure how many are walk ins. It seems gov or whoever indicated that walk in would stop at some point and that led to big numbers Tuesday. 

My experience yesterday was nothing like that with time slot 4pm + for 60+ yr old farang.

First pic below is the worst one I had 'stand up queue'. That was about 30-40 mins. Next sit down queue area was paperwork and then jab. Not too bad.

 

I was told that this chaos is partly due to people from Central provinces, which have shortages of vaccines, flocking to Bangkok in the hope of getting shots at Bang Sue as walk-ins. I can't verify how true this is but someone said his relatives from one of the Khao Yai provinces went there as vaccine appointments in the surrounding districts had been cancelled.   

[Neeranam]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Another new high has been reached today while Prayut estimates this will affect the country for only another 2, 3 or 4 weeks............crystal ball in play again, while the Thai population suffers, hospitals now closing to all new patients due to being full and in Bangkok the remainder are overflowing.

As more people are vaccinated daily, of course the trend will reverse, one doesn't need a crystal ball.

 

 

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

I was told that this chaos is partly due to people from Central provinces, which have shortages of vaccines, flocking to Bangkok in the hope of getting shots at Bang Sue as walk-ins. I can't verify how true this is but someone said his relatives from one of the Khao Yai provinces went there as vaccine appointments in the surrounding districts had been cancelled.   

People here don't look over 60. Is the over 60 just for foreigners? 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

As more people are vaccinated daily, of course the trend will reverse, one doesn't need a crystal ball.

 

 

So you agree, in two three or four weeks it will all be over, there's the crystal ball.......................

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

6 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

The current daily death rate is already nearly 50,000 on an annualised basis.  So Thailand is already accepting a higher death toll than Mexico without openig up.  How many would die, if it opened up like Mexico?

that is a good question, and the answer is: not much more.

how do i know it?

from mexico.

you got it. it allready happaned. the virus allready spread.

if it was same numbers like in the beginning, i would not say a thing.

now it is finished.

now the only question is: how many lives will be destroyed from lockdowns ?

[brewsterbudgen]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Interesting to note the two people who have liked your post so far. 

I liked it because I like to see a debate. This daily thread gets rather repetitive at times and some posters seem to think it should only reflect their views. So, I "like" to read some contrary opinions and points.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

As more people are vaccinated daily, of course the trend will reverse, one doesn't need a crystal ball.

 

 

So you agree, in two three or four weeks it will all be over, there's the crystal ball.......................

[anchadian]

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (July 28, 2021) About 5.61% of the population is fully vaccinated. 12,714,312 (+284,387) people have received the first dose, while 3,712,747 (+43,002) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #COVID19 #ล็อกดาวน์ #KE

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1420260139429367815

[wensiensheng]

10 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

 

5 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

that is a good question, and the answer is: not much more.

how do i know it?

from mexico.

you got it. it allready happaned. the virus allready spread.

if it was same numbers like in the beginning, i would not say a thing.

now it is finished.

now the only question is: how many lives will be destroyed from lockdowns ?

I’m sorry, are you saying the virus is finished in Thailand, Mexico, or both?

[retsdon]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

As more people are vaccinated daily, of course the trend will reverse,

No of course about it. Over a matter of weeks the infection rate can easily -  and probably will - outrun the vaccination rate. Particularly if the vaccine centres look like Bang Sue. 

[wensiensheng]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (July 28, 2021) About 5.61% of the population is fully vaccinated. 12,714,312 (+284,387) people have received the first dose, while 3,712,747 (+43,002) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #COVID19 #ล็อกดาวน์ #KE

https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1420260139429367815

Daily average rate of doses required has risen from 470k per day on Jun 7th, to over 600k per day now. That’s some failure.

[Dogmatix]

3 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

that is a good question, and the answer is: not much more.

how do i know it?

from mexico.

you got it. it allready happaned. the virus allready spread.

if it was same numbers like in the beginning, i would not say a thing.

now it is finished.

now the only question is: how many lives will be destroyed from lockdowns ?

BTW I was not disputing the fact that lockdowns kill.  Just pointing out we are already paying the same price in lives pre-opening as Mexico post-opening. 

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

2 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

That’s been queried previously and the op confirmed that each day he writes his own narrative using public

 

I’m sorry, are you saying the virus is finished in Thailand, Mexico, or both?

i am saying the lockdowns are finishing thailand.

i am saying mexico never locked down.

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I liked it because I like to see a debate. This daily thread gets rather repetitive at times and some posters seem to think it should only reflect their views. So, I "like" to read some contrary opinions and points.

I'd rather not debate with people who want to open up with no restrictions and claim we should be like mexico. Ignorance is bliss for them

[Neeranam]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So you agree, in two three or four weeks it will all be over, there's the crystal ball.......................

I don't agree with you that it will all be over but I agree with Prayud, that the new highs will be over.