Sergeant’s vaccine brag prompts renewed demands for Pfizer clarity

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By Pear Maneechote

 

Thai netizens reacted with fury Monday after a soldier shared pictures of a receipt for a Pfizer vaccine online, accusing the government of favouring the military over healthcare workers in allocating the limited stocks of the jab.

 

The soldier was quick to explain that he is a military nurse working on the front lines alongside medical workers against the pandemic but the outrage persisted, demonstrating public sensitivity to even suspected preferential treatment of the military.

 

Noppadon Maneechan, an army sergeant in Loei province, boasted about the shot on social media late Sunday saying: “Dear Moderna, I cannot wait for you any longer. Today, I have chosen to turn to Pfizer instead.” 

 

Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/31022/sergeants-vaccine-brag-prompts-renewed-demands-for-pfizer-clarity/

 

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[gk10012001]

Well, in the USA they are about to mandate that all military people get a COVID vaccine.  I don't know if there are any overall quantity or availability issues.  In most countries the military is viewed as somewhat important and essential to the needs of the country.  In Thailand, well, the view is somewhat different being a military led coup government

[AwwYesNice1]

2 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

Well, in the USA they are about to mandate that all military people get a COVID vaccine.  I don't know if there are any overall quantity or availability issues. 

You can walk into any chain store and get the best of the best covid vaccine absolutely free.

No availability issues at all, just many anti vaxxer idiots fueling the fires still in USA and the infection numbers dwarf what the Thai government reports.

 

 

 

[Scrotobike]

Well there go the 150,000....

[TooBigToFit]

59 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

Well, in the USA they are about to mandate that all military people get a COVID vaccine.  I don't know if there are any overall quantity or availability issues.  In most countries the military is viewed as somewhat important and essential to the needs of the country.  In Thailand, well, the view is somewhat different being a military led coup government

It's hardly because the military 'led a coup'. They've led continuous coups. It the case of the last one they appointed the senate which allowed them to appoint Prayut as prime minister. Plus there was and  has been endless spending during the coup periods and during the present government where spending is basically done without accountability. That's just the beginning of it, so it's been much more than just a coup. With all spending, the people fear exploitation by those in power and with the current situation there's no reason for healthy military people or people connected to them to get access to this. The people want logic and accountability in the work of the government.

[herfiehandbag]

And the cat inevitably leaps from tha bag!

[Gandtee]

1 hour ago, gk10012001 said:

Well, in the USA they are about to mandate that all military people get a COVID vaccine.  I don't know if there are any overall quantity or availability issues.  In most countries the military is viewed as somewhat important and essential to the needs of the country.  In Thailand, well, the view is somewhat different being a military led coup government

The last sentence is a slight understatement.????

[steve187]

did they not allocate 600,000 something doses of the donated 1.5million from the USA, to front line medical staff, if the man is a front line nurse then he received one of the 600,000. 

Medpark is using some of the 150,000 doses allocated to non Thais.

[harada]

Former sergeant? ????

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, AwwYesNice1 said:

You can walk into any chain store and get the best of the best covid vaccine absolutely free.

No availability issues at all, just many anti vaxxer idiots fueling the fires still in USA and the infection numbers dwarf what the Thai government reports.

 

 

 

Shame we don't see this in Thailand... it could have been so much better.

[petedk]

1 hour ago, steve187 said:

did they not allocate 600,000 something doses of the donated 1.5million from the USA, to front line medical staff, if the man is a front line nurse then he received one of the 600,000. 

Medpark is using some of the 150,000 doses allocated to non Thais.

Medpark has sent out new information regarding Pfizer.

 

So far only 60+ w/without underlying disease  - pfizer

18-59 with underlying disease - pfizer

18+ over 12 weeks pregnant - pfizer

Proof in form of medical certificate required.

 

18 - 59 WAIT for further announcement.

 

[herfiehandbag]

3 hours ago, AwwYesNice1 said:

You can walk into any chain store and get the best of the best covid vaccine absolutely free.

No availability issues at all, just many anti vaxxer idiots fueling the fires still in USA and the infection numbers dwarf what the Thai government reports.

 

 

 

I looked at this picture and smiled at the thought of 7/11 doing this. Then I thought a bit more.

 

7/11 has, probably, the greatest "reach" in the country. It has refrigeration, an effective (refrigerated) logistics chain, and a predominantly young and it seems to me helpful workforce. They know the numbers in the areas they serve. They are pretty clean.

 

So: set up a corner of the store, table and a couple of chairs. Patient/customer comes for vaccination, staff member, who has received a couple of days basic training at the local hospital (remember all the girls at secondary school get red cross cadets every week) takes blood pressure, asks mandatory questions, gives jab and sits customer/ patient to rest for 15 minutes. At the end of the day paperwork is taken to the local hospital for processing. 7/11 is paid a fee per vaccination.  Supervised by the local hospital.

 

It would work?

 

Of course the supply of vaccines may be the problem, but give that to the private sector to sort out as well...

 

 

[hgma]

too smart

[Deli]

3 hours ago, AwwYesNice1 said:

You can walk into any chain store and get the best of the best covid vaccine absolutely free.

No availability issues at all, just many anti vaxxer idiots fueling the fires still in USA and the infection numbers dwarf what the Thai government reports.

 

 

 

Advatages when living in a 1st world country with a real constitution and freedom of speech

[John Drake]

39 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I looked at this picture and smiled at the thought of 7/11 doing this. Then I thought a bit more.

 

7/11 has, probably, the greatest "reach" in the country. It has refrigeration, an effective (refrigerated) logistics chain, and a predominantly young and it seems to me helpful workforce. They know the numbers in the areas they serve. They are pretty clean.

 

So: set up a corner of the store, table and a couple of chairs. Patient/customer comes for vaccination, staff member, who has received a couple of days basic training at the local hospital (remember all the girls at secondary school get red cross cadets every week) takes blood pressure, asks mandatory questions, gives jab and sits customer/ patient to rest for 15 minutes. At the end of the day paperwork is taken to the local hospital for processing. 7/11 is paid a fee per vaccination.  Supervised by the local hospital.

 

It would work?

 

Of course the supply of vaccines may be the problem, but give that to the private sector to sort out as well...

 

 

The only problem is that 7 Eleven's owner is invested into a competing vaccine.

[grandpa]

1 hour ago, petedk said:

Medpark is using some of the 150,000 doses allocated to non Thais.

What is Medpark?  I registered along with 40,000 other non-Thais 10 days ago and was told to wait for an e-mail appointment!  So far nothing!  I live in Khon Kaen and am 70+ with 3 of the 7 underlying medical conditions.  Why are Medpark issuing Pfizer to those under 60 when there are those over 60 with medical conditions yet to be vaccinated?

 

Edited August 10, 2021 by grandpa

[petedk]

1 minute ago, grandpa said:

What is Medpark?  I registered along with 40,000 other non-Thais 10 days ago and was told to wait for an e-mail appointment!  So far nothing!  I live in Khon Kaen and am 70+ with 3 of the 7 underling medical conditions.  Why are Medpark issuing Pfizer to those under 60 when there are those over 60 with medical conditions yet to be vaccinated?

 

Medpark is a new private hospital in Bangkok. I think they are trying to build a database with names of foreigners living in Thailand.

 

If you notice, they are not issuing Pfizer to under 60 without underlying conditions. I believe that at first they said anyone could get Pfizer, but I am not sure. I am also in the 60+ with underlying conditions. I have already had an AstraZeneca and go for my 2 shot next week.

 

I cannot remember how many different places I registered with, only to get contradicting emails. 

[Srikcir]

If the soldier's need as a medical care provider was so urgent, why didn't he get (required?) SinoVac that's been available in large quantities most of this year? Or the government's seemingly favorite backup the locally made AstraZeneca that PM Prayut first took? Like many Thai citizens who seem overall to have few other choices.

[Bluespunk]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The soldier was quick to explain that he is a military nurse working on the front lines alongside medical workers against the pandemic but the outrage persisted

because being a netizen means never admitting you reacted without knowing all the facts.

 

“I am currently performing my duty as a military nurse at the Khai Si Song Rak Hospital, which makes me more at risk of contact with Covid-19 patients,” he wrote on Monday.

 

“I had initially asked to reserve the Moderna vaccine in October, but seeing as that will take too long, I have chosen to receive the Pfizer vaccines instead which has been prioritized to frontline medical workers such as myself.”

Edited August 10, 2021 by Bluespunk

[Rimmer]

A troll/slur has been removed

[khunPer]

He is a frontline medical worker, and half of the US-donated Pfizer vaccines will be used as boosters for frontline medical workers, who got two jabs of Sinovac that gives less protection against the Covid-variants. It makes good sense to keep the frontline medical workers Covid-free, they are very needed for the society.

[pmarlin]

can't believe people are upset over this. He's a solider who happens to be a medic. He  deserves   it and qualifies as a medical worker. But he should of keep it to himself.

[cardinalblue]

Sure hope the non Thai Citizens who signed up don’t have their allotment go elsewhere…

 

was told that these folks will be contacted and given a date either yesterday or today….so far no communication 

 

we shall see…

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

7/11 has, probably, the greatest "reach" in the country. It has refrigeration, an effective (refrigerated) logistics chain, and a predominantly young and it seems to me helpful workforce. They know the numbers in the areas they serve. They are pretty clean.

 

So: set up a corner of the store, table and a couple of chairs. Patient/customer comes for vaccination, staff member, who has received a couple of days basic training at the local hospital (remember all the girls at secondary school get red cross cadets every week) takes blood pressure, asks mandatory questions, gives jab and sits customer/ patient to rest for 15 minutes. At the end of the day paperwork is taken to the local hospital for processing. 7/11 is paid a fee per vaccination.  Supervised by the local hospital.

 

It would work?

No, it would not work.  That is so ridiculously not thought through!

 

Where do they get the staff to do that, one person sure couldn't cope with the influx of people for vaccinations.    Where do they get the space to do that?   Who, in their right mind would want to risk a vaccination from a medically untrained 7-11 cashier/shelf stacker taking their BP and giving the jab?   Jesus....   Where in the average 7-11 is there space for the many people to sit and rest post vaccination, unobserved by anyone qualified to do so?   What would happen if someone had an adverse reaction to the vaccine?

[MrJ2U]

11 hours ago, webfact said:

 

 

Noppadon Maneechan, an army sergeant in Loei province, boasted about the shot on social media late Sunday saying: “Dear Moderna, I cannot wait for you any longer. Today, I have chosen to turn to Pfizer instead.”

What a pig.

 

 

Edited August 10, 2021 by MrJ2U

[herfiehandbag]

56 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, it would not work.  That is so ridiculously not thought through!

 

Where do they get the staff to do that, one person sure couldn't cope with the influx of people for vaccinations.    Where do they get the space to do that?   Who, in their right mind would want to risk a vaccination from a medically untrained 7-11 cashier/shelf stacker taking their BP and giving the jab?   Jesus....   Where in the average 7-11 is there space for the many people to sit and rest post vaccination, unobserved by anyone qualified to do so?   What would happen if someone had an adverse reaction to the vaccine?

So how do they do it in the USA?

 

The required training to administer a jab is not to a particularly high level. Provide training.

 

There is already a big network of community health volunteers.

 

If it is made commercially viable then they will find the space.

 

With the numbers of 7/11 outlets available there will not be the massive queues seen at the few vaccination centres.

 

I am throwing an idea up for discussion. I am not suggesting it should be all up and running next week but I am suggesting it as a ( possible) way to maximize the reach of the vaccination programme once you have a sufficient supply of the vaccines.

 

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

15 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

So how do they do it in the USA?

 

The required training to administer a jab is not to a particularly high level. Provide training.

 

There is already a big network of community health volunteers.

 

If it is made commercially viable then they will find the space.

"So how do they do it in the USA? "

No idea, it's irrelevant but 7-11 workers give vaccinations in the US?  Really?

 

"The required training to administer a jab is not to a particularly high level".

Really?  You've has some experience of giving injections?   You'd take one from a 7-11 staffer?   

 

"There is already a big network of community health volunteers".

Where?  But what's that got to do with '7-11 vaccinations'?

 

"If it is made commercially viable then they will find the space.".

How?  Build extensions on the shops or take away the retail space?

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"So how do they do it in the USA? "

No idea, it's irrelevant but 7-11 workers give vaccinations in the US?  Really?

 

"The required training to administer a jab is not to a particularly high level".

Really?  You've has some experience of giving injections?   You'd take one from a 7-11 staffer?   

 

"There is already a big network of community health volunteers".

Where?  But what's that got to do with '7-11 vaccinations'?

 

"If it is made commercially viable then they will find the space.".

How?  Build extensions on the shops or take away the retail space?

 

 

I floated an idea.

 

You clearly don't think it a good one.

 

Fine.

[mark131v]

28 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"So how do they do it in the USA? "

No idea, it's irrelevant but 7-11 workers give vaccinations in the US?  Really?

 

"The required training to administer a jab is not to a particularly high level".

Really?  You've has some experience of giving injections?   You'd take one from a 7-11 staffer?   

 

"There is already a big network of community health volunteers".

Where?  But what's that got to do with '7-11 vaccinations'?

 

"If it is made commercially viable then they will find the space.".

How?  Build extensions on the shops or take away the retail space?

 

 

I would it is not exactly rocket science is it, so long as there is a first aider with an epi-pen and basic first aid training damn right I would

 

What do I know, well I am a paramedic who must have given thousands of vaccinations my initial training, jab it in quick withdraw plunger any blood in it your in the wrong place

 

Like I said it ain't rocket science...

[Liverpool Lou]

11 hours ago, AwwYesNice1 said:

You can walk into any chain store and get the best of the best covid vaccine

Which is that, then?   Why is it the best of the best?