Romance scam advice

[40yearoldnumpty]

Please don’t judge me too harshly. I know now I have been a fool.

 

I met my Thai wife in 2015. I had just been through a messy breakup with my fiancee in the UK and was feeling very lonely and depressed. I decided to visit my brother in Thailand to perk myself up a little. I had few preconceptions, and have to admit to being a little naive regarding Thai women. I knew a little about how things work in Thailand, and i’ll admit to looking forward to relieving my tensions with the ‘working girls’ I knew existed and Thailand was famous for. After visiting a bar with my brother I was introduced to ‘bar girls’ and ended up going back to my hotel with one of them. I’ll be honest the experience left me feeling a little cold, and I woke up the next morning with no small amount of regret.

 

However I proceeded to enjoy Thailand and my brother and I embarked on a trip to the south and stayed in some beautiful locations. On returning to Bangkok my brother and I went out and had fun playing pool. In one of the bars I bumped into my future wife, who was out with friends and not working in the bar.

 

She was younger than me (I was 40 at the time, and she was 13 years younger) and stunning (to me) in looks and personality. We had an enjoyable evening together and I left her and her friends to go back to my hotel alone. The next day she messaged me and we chatted on video phone, I asked her what she did for a living and if she was free at the moment for something to eat. She told me she worked as a massage girl currently, but had had jobs in a variety of different roles such as retail and factory work. When I pressed her about her massage work she laughed and said ‘not that kind of massage girl’, she worked in a hotel and it was a ‘respectable professional job’. Anyway things progressed and for the remainder of my holiday we spent time together and got along well. I left Thailand, and despite her being upset I was leaving, I never expected to see or hear from her again.

 

It was nearly a month after arriving home that I had an unexpected call from her, and from this point forward our relationship developed over time and video calls until I decided to go back to Thailand for a holiday together. We had a fantastic time together and I slowly realised I had strong feelings for her compounded by my having to leave her again and return to the UK.

 

There were no red flags that I noticed, and everything seemed genuine and above board. She introduced me to family members and friends, and revealed to me she had two children from a previous relationship. We continued to build a relationship, and apart from me paying for meals and days out while we were together there was never requests for money or other support.

 

My brother warned me to be careful, but I completely trusted her and dismissed the warnings to be careful. Then came the news she was pregnant and I was the father. I was shellshocked, we had been careful, however on a couple of occasions the contraception we were using failed. Her pregnancy perfectly chimed with my visit, and the conception calculator proved the likelihood she was telling the truth and the baby was mine.

 

I promised her I would stand by her, and my trust was such that I never doubted she was telling the truth, even though by this stage alarm bells had started ringing and I had read the horror stories on online Thai ‘expat’ forums. I questioned her and was reassured by her answers and everything still seemed genuine and I foolishly decided to go ahead with the pregnancy and hope of building a life together with the person I had fallen in love with.

 

I’ll admit to being head over heels in love, and happier than I had been in a long time. Perhaps this clouded my judgement and I had no reason to believe we couldn’t be happy together in the future. I had started to investigate a UK visa for her, and when she suggested we get married (for her security and going through with the pregnancy) I agreed feeling it would be helpful in the visa application, and also allaying her fears I would leave her holding the baby. Her fear about me leaving her went some way to convince me further she was genuine. She often talked about being poorly treated by previous (Thai) boyfriends.

 

Anyway, it was at this point she stopped working and I agreed to send her money to support her through her pregnancy. She moved back to her parents village and our relationship grew stronger through her pregnancy. She would call me every day and I had no reason to believe we weren’t in a strong loving relationship. Her due date arrived and I travelled back to Thailand to be with her for the birth. This was uncomplicated and by the end we had a beautiful baby girl together. At this point it is pertinent to say that my wife is a dark skinned Thai from Isaan. Our baby took after me, white British. It became the focal point in discussions about our baby, how white she was, how the baby did not look like my wife’s daughter, my wife and her family were overly excited about the colour of our daughters skin.

 

We applied for a UK visitors visa, and my wife and child travelled to the UK to meet my family. She was excited to come and enjoyed her 6 month visit. She returned to Thailand with my daughter, and we applied for a second visitor visa, and she came to stay for a year the second time. She got along with my family, was outgoing and confident and seemed to really enjoy staying in the UK. However it was after she left to go home that things seemed to change. She became less interested in calling me, appeared different and slightly cold on some occasions. I questioned her about this apparent change in our relationship, to which she got angry and accused me of not trusting her.

 

There were a few red flags by this point, but I was fully committed to my wife and child, and was working hard to maintain good relations, often overlooking transgressions or doubt as I was so focussed on completing the spouse visa and various hoop jumping required to get them both to the UK to be with me. Then the COVID pandemic hit and things started to move very slowly. Her booked English language exam (part of UK visa requirement) kept getting postponed or cancelled. I had to keep paying for new apartments for my wife and daughter to stay in, ignoring the obviously (now) spurious reasons for needing to move so often. I was simply trying to remain positive and keep the ball moving in making sure the visa application could continue as soon as was possible.

 

The current situation is dire, it has been a month now and I have not heard from her. She had just been sent her monthly support when on the following day she didn’t answer her phone. She hasn’t read my messages, or called me back. I am obviously tearing my hair out at this loss of communication and completely clueless about what might have happened. So I called her aunt to ask if she has heard anything and this is where the truth came out.

 

She was arguing with her aunt (who she calls her ’sister’) and her aunt was angry with her when I got in touch. All family loyalty was out the window and she sent me screenshots of the messages between my wife and her. It’s fair to say my world collapsed at these revelations. It seems she is in a relationship with another girl (tomboy), and she was annoyed at being reprimanded by her aunt when her aunt had benefitted so much from the financial support I had been giving my wife, though the kicker was how she referred to me in this message, apparently I was her ‘prey’, or ‘pussy victim’.

 

To learn that someone you trusted for 5 years has been playing you all along is pretty hard to swallow. She hoodwinked me and my family so convincingly that I am unable to tell them the truth as yet, such is my shame at bringing this nightmare into our lives. My mum, dad and brothers adore my daughter and she is the most amazing beautiful little girl you could ask for. The revelation that it has all been a scam will be heartbreaking for my family so i’m currently carrying this news alone for now while I consider my options.

 

I had questioned my wife in the past about how much money she demanded each month, but each time I was reassured that it was for necessities, and i’ll admit to ignoring my reservations about her explanations to keep the peace, and besides I was able to afford it even if it did seem slightly excessive. Now I know from the screenshots that her aunt sent me that my wife is addicted to drugs. She was arguing in the messages that she had supported her crippled father, and drunk mother, and two (other) children, plus the rest of her family while also ‘riding a drug addiction’, and how this amount on her plate is reason enough to be angry about being reprimanded by her aunt for neglecting to maintain contact with me (the ‘victim’), and source of the family’s enhanced income. Needless to say her aunt had told me to file for divorce, and come to collect your daughter as soon as possible.

 

I foolishly paid the aunt money to travel from Isaan to Bangkok so she could collect my daughter and bring her to the family farm in Isaan, and subsequently haven’t now heard from the aunt since. I have found the Facebook account my wife uses, she has multiple accounts and I was not able to see her ‘real’ account until I had done some detective work online. This confirms the lies and double life my wife has been leading throughout our relationship. For some reason (probably an increasing drug habit) the mask she was wearing and her duplicity has slipped, maybe it’s guilt? or pressure from her girlfriend? and she is unable to continue the charade anymore, hence my rejection.

 

I miss my daughter, and the reason for this lengthy post is to ask for help. What can I do? What options do I have? I have the evidence for all of the above. I have a record of every transaction forwarded to her. I have the grounds for divorce, but I worry for my daughter and if I will ever see her again. I have a horrible sinking feeling that there is nothing I can do about this situation. Is there any legal advice for this sort of thing that I can access, any recommendations would be gratefully received.

 

To many people reading this I expect there will be little sympathy, and I expect to be rightly considered a complete fool, trust me I feel sick to my stomach with my decisions and choices, so any barbs directed my way regarding the above, I already know what an idiot i’ve been in the pursuit of love and happiness. But when someone sets out to defraud you so convincingly it’s hard to imagine (for me anyway) that another human being could have the confidence to carry through with such a cruel scam.

[MarkyM3]

Sorry to hear of your predicament and I hope it's a genuine post! Plenty have fallen for it. No doubt you will get the usual ThaiVisa keyboard warriors piling on, not from me. 

 

I would request a DNA test, quite honestly, given your wife has lied so much elsewhere. Though that is a hard thing to do, given your daughter is the only positive thing to emerge from this mess. I had a Thai girlfriend pull the pregnancy card on me, she even sent me photos of "my" baby when I was back in the UK. I asked for a DNA test (at my expense) and it was never forthcoming. She turned out to be a total bunny boiler and stalked me on Facebook etc. - she was a barmaid, not a bargirl though. 

 

I would also recommend perhaps hiring a private detective to try to find out what else is going on. 

 

I wish you luck. 

[RichardColeman]

My first Thai wife used me solely to get to the UK. She destroyed our business by taking out loans she could never pay back, fake pregnancy - that miraculously disappeared when my friend visited her, saying not on the contraceptive pill and I found them in her shoes even though saying she was trying for a kid, a consistent liar...............................etc.

 

I divorced her after 2.5 years.

 

I also agree, DNA test. Some women are just bad apples.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CharlieH]

Ok, heres my penneth.

 

Yes you were an idiot, and clearly on the rebound.

You are not the first and certainly not the last. Some of the above raises flags for me like, whats the point of screenshots of texts or facebook etc as they would be in Thai and I assume you dont read Thai, so that seems off to me.

 

Anyway lets go through some realities.

Thailand aint the west. A divorce is not "filed" you can both walk in to the amphur sign and its done ! It aint that difficult.

 

However, for that to happen you need the mother and her co operation and judging by the above you'll need to pay to get that.

 

Detach your emotions, what do you want first ? What is your ultimate goal ? Get that established and then seek how to achieve it.

You are going to get hit hard for cash if you allow it. The child will be just fine, Thai families are strong bank on that. She left the other 2 and the Lukreung will be taken care of too.

 

The only time , you need to start doing DNA etc and thinking courts etc is id she cant be found  or wont play ball. But first you must decide and be sure want you want to do.

[northsouthdevide]

Here's my 2 bobs worth. 

You have to put her in the local family court where her I'd card adress is, 

And apply for paternal rights, pending a dna test. 

After said test, you can seek advice according to the result. 

If negative, with all your evidence, you have a good case. 

She will get 2 years prison, or be forced to negotiate a settlement. 

If you're the father, you may have to consider if you want to negotiate full custody. 

[Tanomazu]

2 hours ago, 40yearoldnumpty said:

She was arguing with her aunt (who she calls her ’sister’) and her aunt was angry with her when I got in touch. All family loyalty was out the window and she sent me screenshots of the messages between my wife and her.

Ummmm, these text  conversations were in English then? Or you can read Thai?

[TC17]

Thank you for sharing your story.  So sorry for your loss.  You mentioned that you missed or ignored the warning signs.  Could you please list them now in hindsight?   Maybe it will help some of us recognize we are in a similar boat, before it us too late. ????  Kap Kon Krap

[Gottfrid]

5 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

she was a barmaid, not a bargirl though

Seems like you think that is a big difference. She went with you, didn´t she?

[40yearoldnumpty]

19 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

Sorry to hear of your predicament and I hope it's a genuine post! Plenty have fallen for it. No doubt you will get the usual ThaiVisa keyboard warriors piling on, not from me. 

 

I would request a DNA test, quite honestly, given your wife has lied so much elsewhere. Though that is a hard thing to do, given your daughter is the only positive thing to emerge from this mess. I had a Thai girlfriend pull the pregnancy card on me, she even sent me photos of "my" baby when I was back in the UK. I asked for a DNA test (at my expense) and it was never forthcoming. She turned out to be a total bunny boiler and stalked me on Facebook etc. - she was a barmaid, not a bargirl though. 

 

I would also recommend perhaps hiring a private detective to try to find out what else is going on. 

 

I wish you luck. 

It is a genuine post i’m afraid, I wish it wasn’t! 

 

There is so much I haven’t included about the past 5 years, namely our experiences together and the things said between my wife and I during this time, her charming way with me and my family really is the hardest thing to deal with when I look back. I have trouble reconciling her actions and personality during the five years I have known her with the current situation and what I know now, the lengths she went to in convincing myself and my family she was genuine… I really can’t put into words how betrayed and foolish I feel for being led on in such a way. She is either an incredible actress, or there were genuine feelings for a time (despite the ongoing adultery), although that is probably me kidding myself a little due to how i’m feeling right now. 

 

I know it is common for Thai’s to have a ‘little wife/husband’, and perhaps this kind of behaviour is considered acceptable? Maybe she had feelings for me (which is why I was so convinced) but the ‘other’ relationship subsequently developed in my absence, due to COVID we haven’t been together for nearly 2 years. The drug issue maybe a new development, I don’t know. For context, in my youth and formative years I used recreational drugs myself, (behind me now for many years), I grew up in the 1990’s and was a regular raver, so I would easily recognise the signs of drug use. We talked about it sometimes, she had friends who used ICE and she would often put them down for this. In the time we spent together there was no behaviour that made me suspect she was using drugs, although it would explain where some of the money was going.

 

I am considering the DNA test for sure now, although the thought is disconcerting. I have watched my daughter grow up from birth, and she has spent a year and a half living with me in the UK. There are many reasons to believe she is mine that I would never have doubted without knowing what I do now.

[40yearoldnumpty]

18 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Ok, heres my penneth.

 

Yes you were an idiot, and clearly on the rebound.

You are not the first and certainly not the last. Some of the above raises flags for me like, whats the point of screenshots of texts or facebook etc as they would be in Thai and I assume you dont read Thai, so that seems off to me.

 

Anyway lets go through some realities.

Thailand aint the west. A divorce is not "filed" you can both walk in to the amphur sign and its done ! It aint that difficult.

 

However, for that to happen you need the mother and her co operation and judging by the above you'll need to pay to get that.

 

Detach your emotions, what do you want first ? What is your ultimate goal ? Get that established and then seek how to achieve it.

You are going to get hit hard for cash if you allow it. The child will be just fine, Thai families are strong bank on that. She left the other 2 and the Lukreung will be taken care of too.

 

The only time , you need to start doing DNA etc and thinking courts etc is id she cant be found  or wont play ball. But first you must decide and be sure want you want to do.

Thanks for your reply, I agree some of the decisions I made were were due to my previous breakup and impatience to move on with my life.

 

The screenshots of messages were in Thai between my wife and her aunt, I used translation software which I concede is far from perfect but still gives you the gist of what is being said. However what I translated was confirmed by ongoing conversations with her aunt, who speaks good English but writes in Thai.

 

There is strong family loyalty which is understandable, however her aunt is close to her in age and they often fall out and argue with each other, more like sisters really.

 

Currently she is missing in action and has effectively disappeared, cutting off communication with me, and the dialogue I have with her aunt seems to have gone cold. But I still hold out hope she is my best chance at maintaining contact. 

 

Ultimately my number one priority is my daughter. I can’t give up on her.

[40yearoldnumpty]

18 hours ago, northsouthdevide said:

Here's my 2 bobs worth. 

You have to put her in the local family court where her I'd card adress is, 

And apply for paternal rights, pending a dna test. 

After said test, you can seek advice according to the result. 

If negative, with all your evidence, you have a good case. 

She will get 2 years prison, or be forced to negotiate a settlement. 

If you're the father, you may have to consider if you want to negotiate full custody. 

My malevolent side agrees with this course of action, but really I can’t see this happening unless as a last resort. I don’t want to pile more problems onto her if she is going through issues and is struggling with life, needless to say she is still my daughters mother.

 

I am maybe naive but I firmly believe in treating other people how you would want to be treated yourself, and despite how poorly I am being treated in this matter I would forgive all to be allowed access and contact with my little girl again.

 

Maybe the threat of such a course of action would be enough, I don’t know.

[40yearoldnumpty]

13 hours ago, TC17 said:

Thank you for sharing your story.  So sorry for your loss.  You mentioned that you missed or ignored the warning signs.  Could you please list them now in hindsight?   Maybe it will help some of us recognize we are in a similar boat, before it us too late. ????  Kap Kon Krap

The obvious (now) warning signs developed after she last left the UK and the pandemic started. She neglected to call me as often, my calls sometimes went unanswered, messages not read. Seeming to go cold after money had been sent. Her friend (tomboy) always in her company. Wanting money for a specific task, then not doing or postponing that task for later, giving reasons for the delay or lack of action that I found hard to disagree with, yet still didn’t make total sense. ‘This is Thailand’ and ‘don’t worry this is how things are here’, or ‘it’s because of COVID’. 

 

Breaking her telephone over three times (Sometimes showing genuine evidence, but other times I would have no idea if it was the truth or not) and needing a new one or a repair, often following a period of non communication, and the broken phone being the reason. Angrily accusing me of trust issues when I pressed her on why things seemed odd or suspicious. 

 

My little girl needing to see the dentist, and a total lack of urgency from my wife. My daughter showing me scabs on her chest during a call, (which I quickly diagnosed as ringworm), and when I put this to my wife she seemed unworried and said she had had them for over a week and thought it was eczema. I encouraged her to see a doctor quickly and get the medication to resolve it, which she did, but only after I demanded it. 

 

In summary a disconnect had manifested between us that I found hard to understand, but as we were in the middle of the visa application I overlooked many of these red flags in my belief that they would soon be on their way back to me in the UK, and if I didn’t trust her I would make things worse.

[MarkyM3]

13 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Seems like you think that is a big difference. She went with you, didn´t she?

Worked in a regular bar, not in a go-go area. Knew her for a couple of years before we got together and no cash changed hands.

 

Do you think anyone who works in a bar or restaurant in Thailand is on the game?

 

[MarkyM3]

15 minutes ago, 40yearoldnumpty said:

It is a genuine post i’m afraid, I wish it wasn’t! 

 

There is so much I haven’t included about the past 5 years, namely our experiences together and the things said between my wife and I during this time, her charming way with me and my family really is the hardest thing to deal with when I look back. I have trouble reconciling her actions and personality during the five years I have known her with the current situation and what I know now, the lengths she went to in convincing myself and my family she was genuine… I really can’t put into words how betrayed and foolish I feel for being led on in such a way. She is either an incredible actress, or there were genuine feelings for a time (despite the ongoing adultery), although that is probably me kidding myself a little due to how i’m feeling right now. 

 

I know it is common for Thai’s to have a ‘little wife/husband’, and perhaps this kind of behaviour is considered acceptable? Maybe she had feelings for me (which is why I was so convinced) but the ‘other’ relationship subsequently developed in my absence, due to COVID we haven’t been together for nearly 2 years. The drug issue maybe a new development, I don’t know. For context, in my youth and formative years I used recreational drugs myself, (behind me now for many years), I grew up in the 1990’s and was a regular raver, so I would easily recognise the signs of drug use. We talked about it sometimes, she had friends who used ICE and she would often put them down for this. In the time we spent together there was no behaviour that made me suspect she was using drugs, although it would explain where some of the money was going.

 

I am considering the DNA test for sure now, although the thought is disconcerting. I have watched my daughter grow up from birth, and she has spent a year and a half living with me in the UK. There are many reasons to believe she is mine that I would never have doubted without knowing what I do now.

Regards the DNA aspect, if you feel you can commit to your daughter irrespective of doubts, then drop it and do what you can to have her with you full time. You clearly love her a great deal. Obviously, were the results to be not you wanted to here, you'd have an even bigger dilemna than you have now.

 

I can't pretend to be an expert on Thai culture but "mia nois" (minor wives) were/are a not uncommon feature for men. At one point, my gf's father had 2 at the same time. Ridiculous really. "Giks"(f__k buddies) also seem to be a feature as well. Also look up "tom and dee", which is relevant to your situation.

 

I think the best thing is to disassociate with her ASAP and consider the DNA thing. Given she already has 2 kids away in the sticks, I honestly doubt she cares a whole lot about your daughter. Sad to say.

 

Good luck. 

[40yearoldnumpty]

43 minutes ago, MarkyM3 said:

Regards the DNA aspect, if you feel you can commit to your daughter irrespective of doubts, then drop it and do what you can to have her with you full time. You clearly love her a great deal. Obviously, were the results to be not you wanted to here, you'd have an even bigger dilemna than you have now.

 

I can't pretend to be an expert on Thai culture but "mia nois" (minor wives) were/are a not uncommon feature for men. At one point, my gf's father had 2 at the same time. Ridiculous really. "Giks"(f__k buddies) also seem to be a feature as well. Also look up "tom and dee", which is relevant to your situation.

 

I think the best thing is to disassociate with her ASAP and consider the DNA thing. Given she already has 2 kids away in the sticks, I honestly doubt she cares a whole lot about your daughter. Sad to say.

 

Good luck. 

Yep, thanks for your reply and advice. I agree with what you say. The 'Tom and Dee' scenario makes a lot of sense to my situation, it seems i've probably been replaced. Hard to accept but that's life I guess.

[CharlieH]

Unhelpful remark and responses removed.

[1FinickyOne]

19 hours ago, Tanomazu said:

Ummmm, these text  conversations were in English then? Or you can read Thai?

I noted that too... my Thai friends might try a few words in English, but text me in Thai... 

 

but I surely don't see things the same as most... my thought was 3some?? have lemons, make lemonade, as they say? Or better, Dylan said, 'It's life and life only.' 

 

Though if the post is true and the budding author is pained, surely he has my sympathies... 

[dddave]

20 hours ago, Tanomazu said:

Ummmm, these text  conversations were in English then? Or you can read Thai?

Google Translate easily translates texts, not with 100% accuracy but sufficient to get the gist of most messages.

[hanuman2543]

Offer her an incentive for agreeing to a mutual divorce at the amphoe and signing over parental rights solely to you. Take your daughter to the UK.

[dddave]

Deep in the Thai-Visa archives (as well as other forums) are quite a few posts about biological fathers fighting for and successfully getting custody or joint-custody of children they had with an estranged Thai spouse or GF.  

These post have over the years made it clear that Thai courts are not entirely one-sided and that a fathers rights are frequently protected.  What has also been clear is that getting sole custody and removing the child from Thailand is highly unlikely unless a private arrangement is made with the mother which usually involves large sums of money.

 

Maybe some other members here will help link some of those archived posts.  The search function on this forum is not very good but most posts can be found through a Google search.  There are proper search terms  that make it more effective.  I forget the best form but maybe somebody else can provide it.

 

I suggest you stop being so hard on yourself and stop looking upon yourself as a victim.  People fall in and out of love all the time.  What may have seemed to your wife to be a dream life in the UK may well have dissipated with the reality of a years day to day there along with the constant cultural issues of dealing with "farang".  She re-invented herself in the past before she met you and she's doing it again.   

 

Do diligent legal research, get professional legal assistance and put yourself in a position to enjoy being a meaningful part of your daughter's life.

[40yearoldnumpty]

10 minutes ago, dddave said:

Deep in the Thai-Visa archives (as well as other forums) are quite a few posts about biological fathers fighting for and successfully getting custody or joint-custody of children they had with an estranged Thai spouse or GF.  

These post have over the years made it clear that Thai courts are not entirely one-sided and that a fathers rights are frequently protected.  What has also been clear is that getting sole custody and removing the child from Thailand is highly unlikely unless a private arrangement is made with the mother which usually involves large sums of money.

 

Maybe some other members here will help link some of those archived posts.  The search function on this forum is not very good but most posts can be found through a Google search.  There are proper search terms  that make it more effective.  I forget the best form but maybe somebody else can provide it.

 

I suggest you stop being so hard on yourself and stop looking upon yourself as a victim.  People fall in and out of love all the time.  What may have seemed to your wife to be a dream life in the UK may well have dissipated with the reality of a years day to day there along with the constant cultural issues of dealing with "farang".  She re-invented herself in the past before she met you and she's doing it again.   

 

Do diligent legal research, get professional legal assistance and put yourself in a position to enjoy being a meaningful part of your daughter's life.

Thanks Dave, i'll take a look. My priority is my daughter, and I agree i'm still raw about the betrayal, perhaps 'romance scam' is the wrong title for this post. We had a romance for sure, but maybe it is changing circumstances and a change of heart that she feels unable to communicate to me that is driving this. I worry for her welfare and that of my daughter primarily, and it's the not knowing that is hard to take. I hope contact can resume and we can come to an amicable agreement.

[Tanomazu]

57 minutes ago, dddave said:

Google Translate easily translates texts, not with 100% accuracy but sufficient to get the gist of most messages.

And how will he transcribe it from a screenshot? He said she sent him screenshots. Presumably in Thai.

 

So he typed the Thai text from the screenshot into Google Translate? Okay.

[40yearoldnumpty]

1 minute ago, Tanomazu said:

And how will he transcribe it from a screenshot? He said she sent him screenshots. Presumably in Thai.

 

So he typed the Thai text from the screenshot into Google Translate? Okay.

Nope, the app has a camera button, press that and then import file. The file is scanned and you are given a translation of the text. Alternatively point your camera at the text and it translates it 'live'. Try it. It's clever tech.

[CharlieH]

More unhelpful remarks removed.

 

(I have used "Google Lens" an excellent app for translation on the go. Snap- translate-done)

[chicowoodduck]

Geez, like I have never heard a story like this in my multiple years of calling Thailandp my home? ????????????

 

Just chalk it up to a learning experience along with the millions of others who have been hoodwinked over the past 100 years or so.....????????????

[Scouse123]

11 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

 

 

Given she already has 2 kids away in the sticks, I honestly doubt she cares a whole lot about your daughter. Sad to say.

 

Good luck. 

Bargaining chips is what mixed race kids are to the Thais.

[Scouse123]

8 hours ago, 40yearoldnumpty said:

Nope, the app has a camera button, press that and then import file. The file is scanned and you are given a translation of the text. Alternatively point your camera at the text and it translates it 'live'. Try it. It's clever tech.

What's the name of the app please?

[elcaro]

Literally Google Translate.

Not as in just google translate, but Google Translate ????????

[Scouse123]

The only thing I am seeing through your posts is desperation to get in contact either for your daughter or you also believe there is a chance to resurrect this romance and that she has been led 'astray '

 

I think you know this has been calculated. To meet your family and treat you like this is a cold hearted self centred cow of a woman.It won't help you right now to say you are better off without.

 

Be prepared for the kid to be used as a bargaining chip to extract more money.

 

She will now no longer care as the cat is out of the bag and will be moving in now for the kill shot with you financially. The ignoring of phone calls is a common occurrence till the money is gone, they then eventually stop making excuses and it all comes down to cold hard cash.

 

There are plenty of these type of tomboy relationships up where I live and they are definitely not a classy bunch of people with drunkenness and regular fighting and drugs involved.

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On 9/17/2021 at 2:06 AM, Tanomazu said:

Ummmm, these text  conversations were in English then? Or you can read Thai?

There are such things as translators, you know? You can even translate from documents and photos with Google Lens.