Thailand to be connected to China by rail - developments in trade this year - High Speed train finished 2028

[Henryford]

17 hours ago, robert888d said:

China lends vast sums of money to countries for huge development projects. Later on many countries are unable to repay the loans and then China can get anything it wants out of them. China will eventually take over Thailand but the Thais will have no one to blame but themselves. The Chinese are very intelligent  and clever to say  the least.

No doubt China will discover an old map which proves that Thailand is part of China.

[tonray]

Government Failure Contingency Plans

 

Plan A: Submarine Escape Route 

Status: Cancelled

 

Plan B: Escape Overland by Rail to China

Status: On Schedule

[Phulublub]

18 hours ago, BestB said:

 last time i checked it was the West that came to rescue each and every time with no strings attached.

Those foreign wallies just don't appreciate the huge benefits colonialisation brought to them and their countries do they?  Ungrateful Barstewards!

 

PH

[Phulublub]

16 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

No its because western companies and countries are not in the business of handing out brown envelopes to despots and corrupt officials.

When they got caught doing it the penalties are severe. 

Er....they do!!

 

PH

[djayz]

52 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Yes delivery times will be cut down.  The Fake goods can now come straight to us without going through Burma first.

There will always be counterfeits. 

[elgenon]

22 hours ago, ramrod711 said:

Fortunaetly for me, I haven't wasted too much time learning Thai. I can  just start learning Chinese so I'll be ready for the influx. 

Both languages are tonal, so learning one helps learning the other. Go for it!

[humbug]

19 hours ago, BestB said:

Do not know how wise it is of Thailand to keep cozying up with China when there is brewing trouble between China and the world. US, UK and AU just signed a new pack to counter China.

 

Go with China, Thailand can forget about Western help and last time i checked it was the West that came to rescue each and every time with no strings attached.

You right it's not wise

 

China corrupts the leaders/regime of a country first, then gets the countries to sign up to Belt and road, which becomes law under the Chinese constitution from 2017, it means Thailand, because of this gangster regime will have to abide by some of the same laws

 

The other issue is the 20 year national strategy which is fake, its a chinese/thai national strategy to implement laws under the chinese constitution, every other belt and road country has the same, either 20 year or 25 years, most of the details are secret, just like all the agreements with china

 

China also needs Thailand a lot more than people think, it has large amounts of food it can export, China cannot grow enough food locally for its population, thats a huge security concern for their regime, and it has 20% of the worlds population but only 7% of water to use, and a lot of that is polluted, its a major reason of invading Tibet

 

the other issue China sees Thailand as a colony going back 150 years, 'map of shame' is a map showng countries China feels belong to them, just totally fake logic by China, but dangerous, and chinese companies and workers will

still come to invest under the eec, and could gain future land rights and citizenship under the thai/chinese 20 year strategy

 

not a coincedence that the recent articles on new visa and land rights were connected to the 20 year strategy by government officials, no way the chinese will have the same overpriced requirements that we all read for all the other foreigners

 

 

a lot to consider as a foreigner here now, trains doesn't motivate me to live in a country, much more concerned with the constant collaboration of all society with china, they hate competing cultures like the west, we become competitors to their  twisted colonizing

 

[mahtin]

As one poster earlier very helpfully pointed out, we are less than 3rd class citizens here, so don't expect to see an upstart farang on this train.

[robertson468]

20 hours ago, robert888d said:

China lends vast sums of money to countries for huge development projects. Later on many countries are unable to repay the loans and then China can get anything it wants out of them. China will eventually take over Thailand but the Thais will have no one to blame but themselves. The Chinese are very intelligent  and clever to say  the least.

And sadly the Thai Government's priority is self interest and have little comprehension of World Politics or business.  I see very little evidence of developing Free Trade Agreements with other Countries and a classical example of their very poor administrative skills is the Visa System, which requires mounds of paperwork, which has to be repeated year on year.  I have been here 16 years and estimate the paperwork I have submitted to Immigration would equate to a small tree forest!  Yet they keep claiming they are the hub for IT, on top of which their online 90 day reporting system keeps going down and for weeks at a time.  But for all that, I do love Thailand and the people in general.

[realfunster]

17 hours ago, DefaultName said:

The Romans built a lot of roads across Europe.  Whatever benefits they had for the countries they were built in, their ultimate purpose was to facilitate fast troop movements.  They worked and the Roman Empire lasted a long time by anyone's standards.

 

Just saying.

That’s all well and good but what have the Romans ever done for us ?

[Phulublub]

1 minute ago, realfunster said:

That’s all well and good but what have the Romans ever done for us ?

For thsoe who may be confused by the above....

 

 

[Ginner]

On 9/18/2021 at 10:26 AM, djayz said:

I think you'll find that the average Somchai didn't have insider knowledge about this once in a lifetime opportunity to get rich quickly. If the truth be known, a very small, exclusive group of people just happened, by sheer coincidence, to buy that land before the project was announced.

 

Hasn't this government ( dictatorship) done exactly what Thaksin was accused of doing with the new airport. the reason for the coup??????? 

[spidermike007]

18 hours ago, gearbox said:

If that ever happens there will be zero hansum men to witness it. Would be purged to extinction by the cost of living.

There are some things in life you do not have to spend any time fretting, worrying, or concerning yourself over. Forward progress in Thailand, under this regime, is one of them. 

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Just about everything is way, way over their heads. Including the building of functioning websites, as we have seen over and over again. It's a 1990s society (and I'm being generous there) with a few tall glass buildings.

I loved the 90's in LOS. I wish it had never changed.

[petermach]

It is a pity that Thailand who resisted to all invaders is opening the country to the expansionary purposes of the China . Thailand should look what happen in Lao , Cambodia , Sri lanka and others african countries under the thumb of China .  When the worm will be in the fruit it will be too late.

[spidermike007]

16 hours ago, RafPinto said:

And don't forget the world leading mouthwash innovation.

Forgot about that. Mondahmin. Didn't the inventors win a Nobel peace prize for that? It literally changed hygiene habits overnight. 

[Bangkok Barry]

19 hours ago, natway09 said:

Which means in theory a train could go from Singapore to London

(have to rejig it though on the way)

A colleague did exactly that, when he was reassigned back to London. He did the trip with wife and two kids and blogged about it. Brave man.

[sanuk711]

On 9/18/2021 at 11:55 AM, Caldera said:

Perfect for the PLA to move troops,  in case the Southern Provinces formerly known as SEA should dare to disobey Beijing at some point in the future

Yes without the new High speed train ...there's no way China could take over Thailand, even though their country borders Laos........

They only legalized Kratom last month, have you guys managed to get hold of it already...................................

 

**Note to England , do you realize how vulnerable you are now you have built the Chanel tunnel.........

[tonray]

1 minute ago, sanuk711 said:

**Note to England , do you realize how vulnerable you are now you have built the Chanel tunnel.........

Yeah the French might slip in thousands of wheels of Camembert and crisps and invade while the troops are gorging themselves

[kickstart]

With China cracking down on most things , things are not so happy ,are we going to see China going under ,unlikely  I know ,but if so, not a lot of investment anywhere.

[shdmn]

Yet another TV thread devolving into mindless anti-China rhetoric.  Who could have predicted.

Edited September 19, 2021 by shdmn

[chalawaan]

On 9/18/2021 at 2:50 PM, Rookiescot said:

Tip of the iceberg mate.

When Evergrande goes down it will start to take some of the huge Chinese banks with it.

Some of those banks have huge investments in things like loans and government bonds here in Thailand. They will start offloading those. Value of them will plummet. 

Thai central bank will be forced to start buying them up but will eventually run out of money.

Thailand starts printing Baht like its going out of fashion. Currency collapses.

China still wants its money back but will now accept goods and services rather than money.

Deep water naval port on the west coast? No problem.

We want a military airport there. No problem.

We want control of your water and electricity suppliers. Take them.

Still got some hardwood trees in those national parks. They are yours.

Hell China will probably take the few remaining wild tigers as well.

Thailand will become a Chinese colony.

Us westerners will be invited to leave at that point.

 

China is already doing these things in some african countries. They got themselves up to their necks in debt to China building railways and roads they didnt need but powerful people got rich from the brown envelopes involved.

Evergrande has half the market cap of Lehman Bros. The CCP have far more regulatory grunt than the Wall St watchdogs. 

Xi can't afford the only legit public protests [over money] to set China ablaze. They'll do what it takes. There will be damage, but no collapse, unless some Western banks go Tetons up across the border. 

This place almost certainly won't be occupied, it's a mugs game the west never seem to learn from the Roman epoch.

More recently, how many times have we been handed our butts in Afghanistan alone? Kalaland will be owned by China in other respects. Salim blood is Chinese blood from way back.

 

 

Edited September 19, 2021 by chalawaan

[chalawaan]

24 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Yet another TV thread devolving into mindless anti-China rhetoric.  Who could have predicted.

No Friend of the CCP myself but the more tabloid-y comments are from the western version of the Chinese seafood buffet mongrels. They deserve each other. 

Edited September 19, 2021 by chalawaan

[chalawaan]

On 9/18/2021 at 6:45 PM, gearbox said:

If that ever happens there will be zero hansum men to witness it. Would be purged to extinction by the cost of living.

yup. Singapore comes to mind. Perfect, but pricey as platinum.

[chalawaan]

4 hours ago, sanuk711 said:

Yes without the new High speed train ...there's no way China could take over Thailand, even though their country borders Laos........

They only legalized Kratom last month, have you guys managed to get hold of it already...................................

 

**Note to England , do you realize how vulnerable you are now you have built the Chanel tunnel.........

Clearly no one in your family was a military engineer. They don't muck about when destruction needs doing. And take it from me, Kratom is milder than that coffee your emoji is sipping.

Edited September 19, 2021 by chalawaan

[chalawaan]

On 9/18/2021 at 12:56 PM, fvw53 said:

Suppose one train carries 2000 passengers

How hours will be needed to pass the Lao passport and customs and then the Chinese border....all the time reduction of high speed may be lost

I prefer an airplane

One clears immigration before and after the trip, not at transit borders. Transit stations are sealed, so no jumping the border, and getting hundreds of transits on and off a train takes five minutes with allocated boarding, it takes at least that long to open a plane door once the jets are at shut down, airbridge has docked, and the first pax stumble off. Also less security theater than scareports and the train arrives smack in downtown, doesn't get stuck in holding patterns, or diverted by weather, violent drunks or unwell passengers.

Edited September 19, 2021 by chalawaan

[UbonEagle]

think in light of recent events like the us/uk/aus nuke sub agreement that china will be desperately looking around for "allies" to back them up...not necessarily in a war context but strategic financial and geographic. lets hope thailand dont sell themselves a bum deal here, they are better aligning with their asean brothers n sisters 

[relax33]

On 9/18/2021 at 8:03 PM, JustAnotherHun said:

I hope, it will be the Chinese who do the routine maintenance of the trains and the rails. If it's done by Thais we will see horrible accidents.

They will sub contract it to a company called "Mao Pen Rai" for maintenance n repairs ...

[BobinBKK]

On 9/18/2021 at 4:19 PM, ramrod711 said:

Does it involve the use of a single finger?

Two actually... One on each hand, and it's NOT two thumbs up either ????