is there a risk of (western-style) child support?

[BananaBandit]

Try and forgive me if this post is overly-paranoid. 

 

Here goes..

 

If I (a U.S. national living in Thailand and hoping never to return to my homeland) were to have a baby with my Thai wife, does that potentially put me at risk of having to pay U.S.-caliber child support?

 

I believe the going rate for Thai child support is like 100 baht per day or something.  Fine by me. Glad to help out.  So, if that's the worst that could happen, then I couldn't care less.

 

But I do NOT want to face the risk (in the event the marriage dissolves) of having to go back to the U.S. and get a real job to pay a serious monthly sum to support my kid in Thailand. 

 

Also, what about the prospect that the marriage dissolves, and then she (if feeling highly vindictive) uses the kid (who, I believe, would technically be an American citizen) as some sort of anchor-baby to get into the U.S., thereby forcing me to return to that place and work to support it (and her)?  Does this type of mess happen?

[Pravda]

She can certainly hire a lawyer in us and skin you alive. The question is of she will bother. Most Thai women don't seem to have knowledge or patience.

[worgeordie]

Risk..... surely if you fathered a child you would want to support

it, and with more than 100 Baht a day, it's your flesh and blood,

regards Worgeordie

[Stocky]

I don't think you ought to be having kids with an attitude like that. If can't afford them, don't make them.

[RichardColeman]

17 minutes ago, BananaBandit said:

But I do NOT want to face the risk (in the event the marriage dissolves) of having to go back to the U.S. and get a real job to pay a serious monthly sum to support my kid in Thailand. 

I seriously doubt that would ever happen. If you have children in the UK, your legal liability to pay child support ends when you start living in Thailand and can show long term visa. Morally is different. I would guess the same happens if you live in UK and father a child in Thailand. The same would apply to the USA I suppose as Thailand not in the Hague convention.

[WEBBYB808]

Are you a dog or something? What do you think?  Raising a child and giving them a quality of life isn't easy or cheap.  If you aren't going to protect the potential  offspring,  then you shouldn't  make one.  You want to pay as little  as possible,  and not what's needed.   That makes you a terrible  father already before the fact, and should consider if you are even ready to be a father.  You just want to be a biological father, and not a father.  Do the child a favor, as you are clearly  thinking about your pocket,  and the pleasure  of making a baby, and not what's  right for the child, you clearly  arent ready to be a real father.

 

You would actually have to apply to make the child a US citizen,  as it wouldn't  be born in the US, and it's not automatically considered a citizen because  the father, donated the DNA.

 

  I can't believe you even asked something like this.  You want to make a child, but only do what the law and others require  you to do.  So pathetic!  You aren't father material and should not do the world, or the poor child a disservice by fornicating and being a donor only.  If the lady is smart she will see you coming a mile away, and make you be fully responsible.   Do you even realise how selfish, and sub par your question  makes you sound.  Imagine if your parents  only gave you the bare minimum growing up, not because they were poor, but because they were selfish.  Imagine they had eaten fresh meals, bought themselves nice clothes, slept in sanitary conditions,  and they took care and spoiled  themselves,  but they bought you used clothes, cheap shoes, and fed you subpar foods daily.  Thats not love.. that would them doing for you what is required.   Imagine how your life would have turned out? How you would feel being treated so bare?  Thats not love.  If you arent going to unconditionally love the child you should've  make one.  You sound immature enough just saying you only want what the local country  wants for the child, as its so substandard,  minimal,  and disgusting.  You feel this best for the child is 100thb a day!  Even what the American government requires  as child support  in the USA isnt always enough  to provide a life for a child.  You should grow up, stop thinking about your wallet,  and see a child is about love not money.  I am glad that there are actually upstanding  men in this world that already know this.  Your question  is so shocking!

[BritManToo]

27 minutes ago, BananaBandit said:

were to have a baby with my Thai wife, does that potentially put me at risk of having to pay U.S.-caliber child support?

Only if you gave your Thai wife access to the USA.

[dddave]

Want to know Thailand's child support system?  Just picture Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, Bangla Rd, Walking Street, ect during normal times.

[tomazbodner]

With attitude like that, make sure you never peel banana when in use. Potential offspring deserves better.

[topt]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

If you have children in the UK, your legal liability to pay child support ends when you start living in Thailand and can show long term visa.

Just curious but do you have a link for that as it surprised me - in a positive way 

[Toscano]

If you are over 50 years of age , have a retirement visa , if you are pressed to marry a Thai woman the regular Thai village marriage will suffice , no need for an Amphur registered wedding or registering a wife at the US embassy or making her a US citizen . In the event of the relationship failing you can pack your bags and leave with no ties , don't buy a house in her name unless you can afford to give it away . If you are worried about the woman getting pregnant have a vasectomy . While you live in Thailand your are only subject to Thai law on child support .

[dallen52]

Something about Thais and why they don't pursue their wayward husbands for support.

My partner raised 2 for many years before I came along.

Didn't want to know about hitting the butterfly up for his required by law contributions.

[LukKrueng]

5 hours ago, Stocky said:

I don't think you ought to be having kids with an attitude like that. If can't afford them, don't make them.

With his attitude I think he shouldn't be allowed to have sex at all...

[malthebluff]

Why wouldn't you want to support your child. Anybody with any decency would give everything they have to their child for any chance of a better life 

[Will B Good]

I think a few on here would be happy to chip in for a vasectomy.

[KhaoYai]

5 hours ago, Pravda said:

She can certainly hire a lawyer in us and skin you alive. The question is of she will bother. Most Thai women don't seem to have knowledge or patience.

A US court has jurisdiction in Thailand? I doubt it.  Making orders is one thing - enforcing them is another.

[LukKrueng]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

I think a few on here would be happy to chip in for a vasectomy.

Or castration...

[userabcd]

Better to just not have kids.

[LarrySR]

100bt per day child support? What a jerk. I spend that feeding stray dogs.

It's more like 1,000bt per day to raise a kid.

Edited October 2, 2021 by LarrySR

[Will B Good]

4 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

Or castration...

Ouch.....Indian eunuch style???

[scorecard]

5 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said:

Are you a dog or something? What do you think?  Raising a child and giving them a quality of life isn't easy or cheap.  If you aren't going to protect the potential  offspring,  then you shouldn't  make one.  You want to pay as little  as possible,  and not what's needed.   That makes you a terrible  father already before the fact, and should consider if you are even ready to be a father.  You just want to be a biological father, and not a father.  Do the child a favor, as you are clearly  thinking about your pocket,  and the pleasure  of making a baby, and not what's  right for the child, you clearly  arent ready to be a real father.

 

You would actually have to apply to make the child a US citizen,  as it wouldn't  be born in the US, and it's not automatically considered a citizen because  the father, donated the DNA.

 

  I can't believe you even asked something like this.  You want to make a child, but only do what the law and others require  you to do.  So pathetic!  You aren't father material and should not do the world, or the poor child a disservice by fornicating and being a donor only.  If the lady is smart she will see you coming a mile away, and make you be fully responsible.   Do you even realise how selfish, and sub par your question  makes you sound.  Imagine if your parents  only gave you the bare minimum growing up, not because they were poor, but because they were selfish.  Imagine they had eaten fresh meals, bought themselves nice clothes, slept in sanitary conditions,  and they took care and spoiled  themselves,  but they bought you used clothes, cheap shoes, and fed you subpar foods daily.  Thats not love.. that would them doing for you what is required.   Imagine how your life would have turned out? How you would feel being treated so bare?  Thats not love.  If you arent going to unconditionally love the child you should've  make one.  You sound immature enough just saying you only want what the local country  wants for the child, as its so substandard,  minimal,  and disgusting.  You feel this best for the child is 100thb a day!  Even what the American government requires  as child support  in the USA isnt always enough  to provide a life for a child.  You should grow up, stop thinking about your wallet,  and see a child is about love not money.  I am glad that there are actually upstanding  men in this world that already know this.  Your question  is so shocking!

.... add the comment 'I couldn't care less'.

[Pravda]

6 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

A US court has jurisdiction in Thailand? I doubt it.  Making orders is one thing - enforcing them is another.

They could certainly enforce it by revoking his passport. US citizens have to obey US laws doesn't matter where they are. It seems like everyone knows this except US citizens.

[LukKrueng]

3 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Ouch.....Indian eunuch style???

I don't know the Indian style, but if it hurts - yes, that style

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, LukKrueng said:

I don't know the Indian style, but if it hurts - yes, that style

No anesthetic, strong elastic band, bend over, one swift slice......the whole lot is toast, lying on the floor......death rate from infection is horrendous.

[connda]

5 hours ago, Pravda said:

She can certainly hire a lawyer in us and skin you alive. The question is of she will bother. Most Thai women don't seem to have knowledge or patience.

She can't take it to a US court.  So don't worry about it.
However - do your part to help the kid live a decent life.
Be a Dad, be part of the child's life, give the mother adequate funds to raise the child in a good, middle-class (Thai) environment but paying those funds gives you access to your child.  Unless you don't want access to your child.  Do the right thing and you'll have nothing to worry about.  Don't be a jerk.

Edited October 2, 2021 by connda

[WingFat]

OP...It's been my long lasting belief that there are too many of the wrong people procreating...that's both men and women. You provide the seed, pay for the deed. Don't stick the bill with the rest of us, and that's what happens when you cheapen your unintentional offspring akin to something on Ebay or Alibaba.

[Rampant Rabbit]

5 hours ago, Stocky said:

If can't afford them, don't make them.

That should be  applied worldwide, but isnt unfortunately many think its their right, nature of course in the wild doesnt

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, connda said:

Perhaps if your wife has access to a Thai lawyer with connections she may be able to make life difficult for you. 

I'd like to think so.

[Bluespunk]

5 hours ago, BananaBandit said:

If I (a U.S. national living in Thailand and hoping never to return to my homeland) were to have a baby with my Thai wife, does that potentially put me at risk of having to pay U.S.-caliber child support?

I hope so... and can I add you sound like a real catch, any lady would be lucky to land a peach like you.

Edited October 2, 2021 by Bluespunk

[KhaoYai]

14 minutes ago, Pravda said:

They could certainly enforce it by revoking his passport. US citizens have to obey US laws doesn't matter where they are. It seems like everyone knows this except US citizens.

From what I'm told, only a few US laws apply outside the US - I doubt child support is one of them.