Extension based on Thai spouse and 40,000 foreign income per month. But wait! Or is it 40,000 and then show 400K in the bank too?

[Guitar God]

I'm doing my first renewal with extension based on marriage to a Thai and at least 40,000 THB foreign income. (All the previous ones were business or retirement)
 Can immigration demand 400K in a Thai bank if you're already proving well over 40K a month in foreign income? They way I read it it's- keep 400K in the bank OR show 40K in foreign income. OF if you don't have the 40K each month, or the 400K in the bank then it's a combination, maybe 20K income and 200K in a TH bank (don't quote me on the combo method ratios).

I have never heard showing them over 40K every month and they being asked "can you put 400,000 in the bank for two months too?

Last year it seemed to drag on and get more personal and more intrusive. They'd give me a task list showing every document I needed. I would fulfill the request to the "T" and then they'd want some thing they never mentioned before, or tell me they don't really need the bank letter that cost me 100-200 baht and at least an hour of my time to hunt down.
I bring back the docs from the new request and they'd ask for something new again. I went back a half dozen times at least.
They said I was the only one in the province who had two sources of income (which I find hard to believe) and that's why it's so complicated, for them.

Last year upon successful renewal, the 2nd level boss at immigration promised me that it would be a breeze next renewal (now) because they figured out what they needed and gave me a list. They said bring in all these docs in 2021, make sure they always have foreign transfers of more than 40K and it will just be stamp, stamp, stamp, sign, sign, sign, pay and you're done.

I brought them the TH bank statement for the previous 12 months showing well over 40K in foreign transfers each and every months, just like the asked. I brought in the pension forms and foreign bank statements showing not only the money flowing from my U.S. bank to my TH bank. and showing the source of income (  passive rental income).

She was going thorough and checking everything off, "yes, yes, good, yes"... I had it all; two copies of 70 page stacks of paper, She verified I had more than enough income every single month and then said to bring my wife with next week so they can interrogate her again, plus update my bank book, bring two copies of every page of it, and new photos. "No problem!" I said "Is that it, is there anything else I need to bring or copy?".

Then she asks "could you transfer 400K into your account and leave it there two months"? I said  "No". "I read your rules, I did this exact same thing last year and it says 40K P/M OR 400,000 on deposit" not "AND".

So what's the problem here? Did they want me to do both in case some boss is moody so they're be a backup plan ? Did they assume it was just  a simple matter of pulling 400K off the farang  money tree and leave it in a bank her instead?

She asked me the way I'd ask "do you have a light?" "can I borrow a paperclip", do you have change for a 20? Just off the cuff. I asked why and she said "well if my boss,  bla, bla, mumble, mumble and by that time I was done decoding data and didn't ask for clarificion. I'll see what they say on Tuesday.

Has anyone heard of this particular bureaucracy and  inconsistencies? 
 

[Chris.B]

It's THB 40,000 a month or THB 400,000 in a Thai bank. No ambiguity there.

 

[Guitar God]

It seems to be whatever they want at the  Ubon office.

[Lite Beer]

400,000 bank deposit OR 40,000 monthly income.

The rule is very clear.

[sandyf]

9 hours ago, Guitar God said:

Then she asks "could you transfer 400K into your account and leave it there two months"? I said  "No". "I read your rules, I did this exact same thing last year and it says 40K P/M OR 400,000 on deposit" not "AND".

So what's the problem here? Did they want me to do both in case some boss is moody so they're be a backup plan ? Did they assume it was just  a simple matter of pulling 400K off the farang  money tree and leave it in a bank her instead?

What she was asking was could you do the 400K deposit method rather than provide all the supporting docs for the income.

They don't like the income method, it is a bit tedious to go through and some have difficulty getting their head around it.

[Sophon]

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OF if you don't have the 40K each month, or the 400K in the bank then it's a combination, maybe 20K income and 200K in a TH bank (don't quote me on the combo method ratios).

You can't use combination of income and bank deposit for a marriage extension.

[Lite Beer]

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OF if you don't have the 40K each month, or the 400K in the bank then it's a combination, maybe 20K income and 200K in a TH bank (don't quote me on the combo method ratios).

Cannot use combination.

Has to be bank balance OR monthly income.

[ubonjoe]

7 hours ago, Guitar God said:

It seems to be whatever they want at the  Ubon office.

I did my 3rd extension (14 in total) using 40k baht going into the bank in August at immigration here in Ubon.

All they looked at during the first document check was my bank statement showing a year of transfers (13 months) from abroad. She just did a checkmark on each one.

No mention of 400k baht in the bank.