What is it with loud exhausts ? (and tail tidy's)

[toofarnorth]

4 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Here ya' go. heaven sent for non-riding whingers.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-noise-motorcycles/paris-suburb-pioneers-noise-radar-to-fine-roaring-motorcycles-idUSKCN1VK1AA

 

 

Great French name that ..................Fanny Meitlick.

[toofarnorth]

On 10/12/2021 at 4:10 PM, Kwasaki said:

I was bought by a cockney father so saying that lemon squeezer is a Richard the Third. ????

 

It would be shorten to that lemon is a Richard. 

Remember that story about a chap wanting to get into show business. He gave his name as Richard von Lesbian , they said no chance with that name , CHANGE IT !   He did to Dick van Dyke .

[Kwasaki]

19 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

I thought the Rocket Goldie was the dog's testicals.  My Bro. wasn't satisfied with the 5 gal. alloy tank it had other bits .  The compression was raised to 11-1 , only ran on 5 star petrol. A slipper piston , lightened and polished flywheel , ......................pity he missed a gear , said it went to 11,000 rpm just before the conrod appeared through the bottom of the crankcase .  Can't remember how it all ended up but then the middle '60s was an odd time. Oh my Norton was loaded up for the IoM TT races in '67.  Agostini's chain broke , what a sound from that machine , my chain didn't IoM no prob. Sorry , just remembering being 20 years old.

Did you race IOM I only rode mad Sunday on my Blade. 

Met a good few riders, three sadly are in the pits in the sky. 

[toofarnorth]

9 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Did you race IOM I only rode mad Sunday on my Blade. 

Met a good few riders, three sadly are in the pits in the sky. 

No chance of racing anything anywhere on a 30bhp Norton. Tent was used for sleeping , how I got to the IoM without loosing stuff I don't know . The 59 club rented a hall so when racing day was over spent time there but as 54 years ago my Thorkus is lacking.  I sold the Norton for 25 quid I do remember , the following year 1968 I bought a Morgan ....................

[Bassosa]

5 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Here ya' go. heaven sent for non-riding whingers.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-noise-motorcycles/paris-suburb-pioneers-noise-radar-to-fine-roaring-motorcycles-idUSKCN1VK1AA

 

 

Oh that's a beautiful thing....

[guzzi850m2]

I have aftermarket exhaust on my big bike, a full system, quite expensive. Not much (if any) gained power wise but save 4-5kg. 

 

Lovely sound when opening it up but not so loud at lower rpms. I never tried removing the baffle, hmm.

 

Our scooters are always running original exhaust, I also hate extremely noisy scooters, what's the point? 

 

Electrical bikes? They don't hear you coming, it's risky. Where do you charge it? Maybe okay for a small scooter type for running errands but for trips? No! 

I am also not sure the batteries will last because of the tropical heat?

[transam]

4 minutes ago, guzzi850m2 said:

I have aftermarket exhaust on my big bike, a full system, quite expensive. Not much (if any) gained power wise but save 4-5kg. 

 

Lovely sound when opening it up but not so loud at lower rpms. I never tried removing the baffle, hmm.

 

Our scooters are always running original exhaust, I also hate extremely noisy scooters, what's the point? 

 

Electrical bikes? They don't hear you coming, it's risky. Where do you charge it? Maybe okay for a small scooter type for running errands but for trips? No! 

I am also not sure the batteries will last because of the tropical heat?

The point is, being young.....????

[khastan]

21 hours ago, toofarnorth said:

I thought the Rocket Goldie was the dog's testicals.  My Bro. wasn't satisfied with the 5 gal. alloy tank it had other bits .  The compression was raised to 11-1 , only ran on 5 star petrol. A slipper piston , lightened and polished flywheel , ......................pity he missed a gear , said it went to 11,000 rpm just before the conrod appeared through the bottom of the crankcase .  Can't remember how it all ended up but then the middle '60s was an odd time. Oh my Norton was loaded up for the IoM TT races in '67.  Agostini's chain broke , what a sound from that machine , my chain didn't IoM no prob. Sorry , just remembering being 20 years old.

Agreeed it was and mine had the 11.1 compression also and a bigger carb.. Which made kick starting it a problem. The mistake of advancing it to much risked breaking your leg. I learnt the best way to start the thing was to jump start it! It was in complete racing trim coloured blood red and fitted with a peel mountain mile fairing. Has far has I could tell the only homage to it being road legal was the lights it had! I did ride it to its limit on just one occasion and it scared the hell out of me. I dont think I ever touched 11000 rpm though! I heard the person that bought it wiped it and himself out on the motorway. I was there also in the IOM in 67 when Agostini and Hailwood were wheel to wheel with each other. The sound of that Honda and MV Augusto screaming past can never be forgotten. Like you say what a shame Agostinis chain broke. Hailwood after the race tried to console Agostini. What a true gentleman Hailwood was and how tragic he lost his life in the way he did. I often wonder how he would go on against the modern day riders whith their phenomaly fast bikes. I was also there on his comeback in 78 when he astounded everbody by winning. Dont apoligise I was 21 and would not have missed that time for the world.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, khastan said:

I often wonder how he would go on against the modern day riders whith their phenomaly fast bikes. 

I would think because say in the way of MotoGP bikes thesedays all being near enough same tech and the young trained riders he would find it as difficult as Rossi is. ????

[toofarnorth]

5 hours ago, khastan said:

Agreeed it was and mine had the 11.1 compression also and a bigger carb.. Which made kick starting it a problem. The mistake of advancing it to much risked breaking your leg. I learnt the best way to start the thing was to jump start it! It was in complete racing trim coloured blood red and fitted with a peel mountain mile fairing. Has far has I could tell the only homage to it being road legal was the lights it had! I did ride it to its limit on just one occasion and it scared the hell out of me. I dont think I ever touched 11000 rpm though! I heard the person that bought it wiped it and himself out on the motorway. I was there also in the IOM in 67 when Agostini and Hailwood were wheel to wheel with each other. The sound of that Honda and MV Augusto screaming past can never be forgotten. Like you say what a shame Agostinis chain broke. Hailwood after the race tried to console Agostini. What a true gentleman Hailwood was and how tragic he lost his life in the way he did. I often wonder how he would go on against the modern day riders whith their phenomaly fast bikes. I was also there on his comeback in 78 when he astounded everbody by winning. Dont apoligise I was 21 and would not have missed that time for the world.

'tis all coming back now.  The Goldie couldn't be bump started as with the close ratio gearbox the clutch was slipped up to 40 mph. So kick start it had to be.  I would hold my brothers leather jacket as he got the advance about right and did start the brute then I had to blip the throttle as that huge carb. wanted to suck in passing small dogs.  A bath plug was left in place when not going anywhere . Imagine. 70mph in first gear , I was leaning back on the pillion and couldn't get forward till second gear.

 

Glad we were at that IoM , Hailwood and Ago. eh.

[khastan]

The factory RGS hada standard carb but the option of a rrt2 gearbox and a compression ratio of about 9.1.1. Fitting a GP2. rrt2 and increasing compression boosted performance by about 7%.  I had no problems bump starting mine which I quickly learnt was the safest way to start the beast. Yes a bath plug was very useful! All Goldstars to my knowledge had large gp carbs, rrt2 and a very high compression ratio. I worked at Cowies as a salesman and we got quite a few secondhand DB32 and DB34 Goldstars in part exchange and all of course had to be tested to see they were okay! They were swopping them for the new breed of high performance Japanese bikes just starting to flood the market. What a glorious motorbike and anybody who never rode one missed the thrill of a lifetime. Like you say would not tick over due to being fitted with a racing carb,  impossible to ride in traffic due to clutch slip but once on the open road oh what joy. The sound produced and smell of Castrol R never to be forgotten. I believe Hailwood took a praticaly standard DB34 and won a race after being challenged that part of his success was due to his fathers influence and money and being supplied with the very best bikes of the day. Yes two great riders and the most challenging and dangerous race track in the world full stop. 

[khastan]

1 hour ago, khastan said:

The factory RGS hada standard carb but the option of a rrt2 gearbox and a compression ratio of about 9.1.1. Fitting a GP2. rrt2 and increasing compression boosted performance by about 7%.  I had no problems bump starting mine which I quickly learnt was the safest way to start the beast. Yes a bath plug was very useful! All Goldstars to my knowledge had large gp carbs, rrt2 and a very high compression ratio. I worked at Cowies as a salesman and we got quite a few secondhand DB32 and DB34 Goldstars in part exchange and all of course had to be tested to see they were okay! They were swopping them for the new breed of high performance Japanese bikes just starting to flood the market. What a glorious motorbike and anybody who never rode one missed the thrill of a lifetime. Like you say would not tick over due to being fitted with a racing carb,  impossible to ride in traffic due to clutch slip but once on the open road oh what joy. The sound produced and smell of Castrol R never to be forgotten. I believe Hailwood took a praticaly standard DB34 and won a race after being challenged that part of his success was due to his fathers influence and money and being supplied with the very best bikes of the day. Yes two great riders and the most challenging and dangerous race track in the world full stop. 

Came across this advert for a new RGS in 1962 and fifty two quid was purchase tax!

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, khastan said:

What a glorious motorbike and anybody who never rode one missed the thrill of a lifetime.

Never really like those bikes 110 mph on those things must of been scary. ????

I liked the later Triumph's then trading that in for the first superbike CB750 a much better ride and reliability.

Stayed with Japanese bikes ever since.

 

[seedy]

All bikes I rode in the late 60's and 70's were damn scary compared to today - those rock hard bias ply tires !

Wonder how any of us survived until better rubber came around, and much needed advances in suspension tech.

[khastan]

11 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Never really like those bikes 110 mph on those things must of been scary. ????

I liked the later Triumph's then trading that in for the first superbike CB750 a much better ride and reliability.

Stayed with Japanese bikes ever since.

 

Try 120 only once and never again and I still had throttle left! A few years later I bought a Triton with a Bonneville engine built by Padgets of Batley. What a diffence that featherbed frame made to handling. Yes the ride was much better but the big differnce was realibility and how they were equipped compared to the british bikes. They used to come in crates partly built from Japan and we could not get enough of them. Especially the Honda 250 Dream and 125 Benly which learner riders were allowed to ride then. They sold like hot cakes to the would be Hailwoods. Not rode for 50 years now but miss it very much although  I did have a go on my mates priceless Hailwood replica MV Augusta and it scared the s--t out of me about 20 years ago. 

[khastan]

4 hours ago, seedy said:

All bikes I rode in the late 60's and 70's were damn scary compared to today - those rock hard bias ply tires !

Wonder how any of us survived until better rubber came around, and much needed advances in suspension tech.

Yes agreed scary but what a thrill. A lot I should imagine. They were ten of us and we lost 4 to bike heaven. 

[khastan]

36 minutes ago, khastan said:

Yes agreed scary but what a thrill. A lot I should imagine. They were ten of us and we lost 4 to bike heaven. I graduated from a BSA C15 250 to a BSA RGS that had beedn raced in the |IOM tt. A lot of riders did that big jump in engine capacity has soon  has they had past there test which without doubt inceased the death rate.

 

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, khastan said:

Try 120 only once and never again and I still had throttle left! A few years later I bought a Triton with a Bonneville engine built by Padgets of Batley. What a diffence that featherbed frame made to handling. Yes the ride was much better but the big differnce was realibility and how they were equipped compared to the british bikes. They used to come in crates partly built from Japan and we could not get enough of them. Especially the Honda 250 Dream and 125 Benly which learner riders were allowed to ride then. They sold like hot cakes to the would be Hailwoods. Not rode for 50 years now but miss it very much although  I did have a go on my mates priceless Hailwood replica MV Augusta and it scared the s--t out of me about 20 years ago. 

Interesting may I enquire you sound like you were into bikes more than me at the time or your older than me. 

My cousin built his own Triton and use to do track racing. 

I remember him coming around showing his rear tyre they had not long been out from memory and he called them triangular shape tyres. 

Never understood why they were not called "Trinort" the Norton frame was special in its day but anything at the time was good enough for me, different bikes I  rode you just changed your riding style to suit. 

 

Honda dream emm remember being in the Ace café and some brave guys turned up on 250 Honda dreams they were quick. ????

 

Remember the MV fascination because they were winning a lot of races at time, I was not that impressed not from envious perspectives they weren't really made available to guys like Honda's were in there cost. 

 

Later on the best thing ever for me was riding IOM road circuit on my Blade and Dave Jefferies set the suspension up for me,  not that would make any difference to my race experience. 

 

My eldest son still has the 1200 Bandit I sold him,  my youngest son has the latest R1 and my middle son thinks his brothers and me are crazy,  I managed to get hold of a Blade in Thailand which is 1 year older than the one I had in England after a few other bikes here so I am a happy bunny. 

Ride to Live. K.

[khastan]

24 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Interesting may I enquire you sound like you were into bikes more than me at the time or your older than me. 

My cousin built his own Triton and use to do track racing. 

I remember him coming around showing his rear tyre they had not long been out from memory and he called them triangular shape tyres. 

Never understood why they were not called "Trinort" the Norton frame was special in its day but anything at the time was good enough for me, different bikes I  rode you just changed your riding style to suit. 

 

Honda dream emm remember being in the Ace café and some brave guys turned up on 250 Honda dreams they were quick. ????

 

Remember the MV fascination because they were winning a lot of races at time, I was not that impressed not from envious perspectives they weren't really made available to guys like Honda's were in there cost. 

 

Later on the best thing ever for me was riding IOM road circuit on my Blade and Dave Jefferies set the suspension up for me,  not that would make any difference to my race experience. 

 

My eldest son still has the 1200 Bandit I sold him,  my youngest son has the latest R1 and my middle son thinks his brothers and me are crazy,  I managed to get hold of a Blade in Thailand which is 1 year older than the one I had in England after a few other bikes here so I am a happy bunny. 

Ride to Live. K.

Okay here goes.  Never rode a push bike parents would not allow me to have one to dangerous they said.. Then when I was 16 purchased a beat up 125 bantam and learnt to ride in a local park. Fell off more times than i could count and that goes for bruises also. Eventually I got the knack and put in for my test and past first time. Swopped the 125 for a C15 250 and rode it thousands of miles all over the UK and had it just before I reached twenty one. My parents hated motorbikes and offered to buy me a sports car for my 21 st. No I said I want a bike , then you buy it youself I was told. I heard that Joe Jackson a small dealer in Saltaire who had raced quite a lot had recently got a RGS with racing credentials for sale. It was love at first sight and I had to have it. When Joe saw what I was riding he said go on have a go but if you drop it you have to pay for any damage. Having worked at cowies I was used to big bikes so was not worried. The power that that thing had was unbelivable and drunk fuel like an alcholic but unlike a Goldie it was just has good in traffic. To cut a long story short it came home with me that day and my parents pratically disowned me. I only had it for about a year then like a fool sold it to get married. After about five years without bought the Triton from Padgetts and took it up to John O Groats on its first real outing. Have not rode since but I really do miss it and above all else the friends who rode with me

The MV I rode which is the top of the range and is in mint condition is in France now. The guy that owns it raced bikes and was also a pillion passenger in sidecar road races so a complete nutter. He says he will never get rid of it and wants it to be buried with him. He once gave me a lift on it and scared the living daylights out of me, boy was I glad to get off. I am nearly 77 to answer your question.

[Kwasaki]

23 minutes ago, khastan said:

Okay here goes.  Never rode a push bike parents would not allow me to have one to dangerous they said.. Then when I was 16 purchased a beat up 125 bantam and learnt to ride in a local park. Fell off more times than i could count and that goes for bruises also. Eventually I got the knack and put in for my test and past first time. Swopped the 125 for a C15 250 and rode it thousands of miles all over the UK and had it just before I reached twenty one. My parents hated motorbikes and offered to buy me a sports car for my 21 st. No I said I want a bike , then you buy it youself I was told. I heard that Joe Jackson a small dealer in Saltaire who had raced quite a lot had recently got a RGS with racing credentials for sale. It was love at first sight and I had to have it. When Joe saw what I was riding he said go on have a go but if you drop it you have to pay for any damage. Having worked at cowies I was used to big bikes so was not worried. The power that that thing had was unbelivable and drunk fuel like an alcholic but unlike a Goldie it was just has good in traffic. To cut a long story short it came home with me that day and my parents pratically disowned me. I only had it for about a year then like a fool sold it to get married. After about five years without bought the Triton from Padgetts and took it up to John O Groats on its first real outing. Have not rode since but I really do miss it and above all else the friends who rode with me

The MV I rode which is the top of the range and is in mint condition is in France now. The guy that owns it raced bikes and was also a pillion passenger in sidecar road races so a complete nutter. He says he will never get rid of it and wants it to be buried with him. He once gave me a lift on it and scared the living daylights out of me, boy was I glad to get off. I am nearly 77 to answer your question.

Wonderful stuff, my Dad was a Motorbike man having a Rudge 500 for I can't remember how many years, when he chop it in for a Triumph speedtwin it was something he regreted.

So about parents I said to my Dad it have enough money for a s/h scoot he said I don't want you having those things and on my 16th Birthday bought me a 600 Panther well OK but starting it with the kick start was a problem for a while ???? it launch me on the ground a few times and lucky I it didn't break my leg. 

Long story over the years but as said after a few bikes got my Blade here again in Thailand and I luv it.

I'm 74 and will be riding for a as long as I don't fall over and that reminds riding to Germany on my Blade I had in UK to do autobahn speeds without being nicked. 

Met a guy with a BM boxer he had been riding for as long as had been made great engines to work on. 

He was 85 years old. ????

 

[khastan]

9 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Wonderful stuff, my Dad was a Motorbike man having a Rudge 500 for I can't remember how many years, when he chop it in for a Triumph speedtwin it was something he regreted.

So about parents I said to my Dad it have enough money for a s/h scoot he said I don't want you having those things and on my 16th Birthday bought me a 600 Panther well OK but starting it with the kick start was a problem for a while ???? it launch me on the ground a few times and lucky I it didn't break my leg. 

Long story over the years but as said after a few bikes got my Blade here again in Thailand and I luv it.

I'm 74 and will be riding for a as long as I don't fall over and that reminds riding to Germany on my Blade I had in UK to do autobahn speeds without being nicked. 

Met a guy with a BM boxer he had been riding for as long as had been made great engines to work on. 

He was 85 years old. ????

 

Great and very nostalgic and how lucky to have parents who encouraged you in your dreams. I hated scooters and never felt safe on them so well done dad. 600 Panther remember it well a beast of a machine. I presume you rode it off road!? One of my mates kept on riding throughout and bought a Honda blackbird. He said it scared the s--t out of him and before he was always the leader and took more risks then all of us. He had a Eddie Dowd built Norton Commando. He told me the black bird was like having two norton engines under you with twice the acceleration and speed. You would not believe the bikes that came in part ex for the new breed of Japanese high end bikes when I worked at Cowies. We even had a black shadow I kid you not. I think it was in the show room a day before it was sold! You are a very lucky man and how i envy and admire you still riding one of the most beautiful and fastest bikes ever made. I wonder what the Thai ton up boys on their little bikes make of it when its parked near them. My home time was Bradford so I was well aquainted with Jefferies of Saltaire Road Shipley and his sons racing careers. It was a tragedy when David was killed in practice. Did you race in the TT or Manx TT.  I watch the riders of todays TT with absolute dumbstruck awe and wonder how is it possible to lap that circuit at well over 130 mph, a lot of the time it is even impossible to see the road ahead clearly, they really have got balls of steel. Over the years whilst I have lived in Thailand I have looked at the bikes like a kid in a candy shop on sale here many times and thought should I they seem such good value for money. My style of riding in the sixties was very aggresive and with so much power at my disposal probably not a good idea but I can dream and nobody can take the memories of a mispent youth away.

[Kwasaki]

37 minutes ago, khastan said:

Great and very nostalgic and how lucky to have parents who encouraged you in your dreams. I hated scooters and never felt safe on them so well done dad. 600 Panther remember it well a beast of a machine. I presume you rode it off road!? One of my mates kept on riding throughout and bought a Honda blackbird. He said it scared the s--t out of him and before he was always the leader and took more risks then all of us. He had a Eddie Dowd built Norton Commando. He told me the black bird was like having two norton engines under you with twice the acceleration and speed. You would not believe the bikes that came in part ex for the new breed of Japanese high end bikes when I worked at Cowies. We even had a black shadow I kid you not. I think it was in the show room a day before it was sold! You are a very lucky man and how i envy and admire you still riding one of the most beautiful and fastest bikes ever made. I wonder what the Thai ton up boys on their little bikes make of it when its parked near them. My home time was Bradford so I was well aquainted with Jefferies of Saltaire Road Shipley and his sons racing careers. It was a tragedy when David was killed in practice. Did you race in the TT or Manx TT.  I watch the riders of todays TT with absolute dumbstruck awe and wonder how is it possible to lap that circuit at well over 130 mph, a lot of the time it is even impossible to see the road ahead clearly, they really have got balls of steel. Over the years whilst I have lived in Thailand I have looked at the bikes like a kid in a candy shop on sale here many times and thought should I they seem such good value for money. My style of riding in the sixties was very aggresive and with so much power at my disposal probably not a good idea but I can dream and nobody can take the memories of a mispent youth away.

At 16 years old I got m/c DL provisional licence.

I rode the Panther on the road, I can't imagine anyone able to ride the Panther 600 off road.

 

Had many a ride on my friends Blackbird it was a good bike but couldn't keep up with my Blade or the trick up Suk 1200 Bandits on Snetterton track days.

 

My Blade in Thailand up North Thais know little or nothing of big bikes as they call them.

 

Yeah Dave stay in the same Hotel as us and he had already broken his leg that year in practice when we arrived at IOM.

 

Only rode mad Sunday on the IOM, my only racing was done on track days at Snetterton and Brands Hatch.

 

The road circuit IOM is a fast circuit 190 mph and over 200 mph are possible a lot of the time by riders, not me ????, through village at the Post office road stretch is very narrow but so fast.

 

Put riding a bike on ya bucket list man. ????

 

[khastan]

I forget did they allow you to ride something over 250cc whith a provesional licence when you were 16. It was 250cc max in my time. One of the main reasons we sold lots of benly 125 and dream 250s to those with L plates. Yes agreed impossible to ride off road. 

 

The Blackbird it terrified Peter my mate and he was an utter lunatic on a bike. Regularly used to loose the boys in blue chasing him through Keighley on the way to the Tomato Dip cafe so your blade must be awesome.

 

They must look at it at the side of theirs and be green with envy surely.

 

Yes tragic but it must have been really intersting to stay in the same hotel though.

 

Mad sunday was never my cup of tea too many would be racers with ambitions above their skills.

 

Yes agreed it is but I have watched countless onboard laps and they are a split second away from disaster many times.

 

You never know I might just do that!

[Kwasaki]

29 minutes ago, khastan said:

I forget did they allow you to ride something over 250cc whith a provesional licence when you were 16. It was 250cc max in my time. One of the main reasons we sold lots of benly 125 and dream 250s to those with L plates. Yes agreed impossible to ride off road. 

 

The Blackbird it terrified Peter my mate and he was an utter lunatic on a bike. Regularly used to loose the boys in blue chasing him through Keighley on the way to the Tomato Dip cafe so your blade must be awesome.

 

They must look at it at the side of theirs and be green with envy surely.

 

Yes tragic but it must have been really intersting to stay in the same hotel though.

 

Mad sunday was never my cup of tea too many would be racers with ambitions above their skills.

 

Yes agreed it is but I have watched countless onboard laps and they are a split second away from disaster many times.

 

You never know I might just do that!

IOM a great place for bikers went there twice a great memory.

For sure get ya self a s/h cheap bike doesn't have to be large cc.

I can ride whenever I want and when I do it just makes me feel more alive.

I just luv acceleration power of my 900 Blade never mind top speed. 

Here is what my wife calls my Mia Noi. ????

 

[seedy]

We were lucky in Alberta.

Get a learners license at 14 and it allowed you to ride any motorcycle up to 100cc.

At 16 get a drivers license and leave the cc limit behind

[Kwasaki]

18 minutes ago, seedy said:

We were lucky in Alberta.

Get a learners license at 14 and it allowed you to ride any motorcycle up to 100cc.

At 16 get a drivers license and leave the cc limit behind

Years ago UK was easy but you would still have to be 16 year old to get a motorcycle provision DL.

17 years old for car.

Very strict now in UK my youngest son hated the restrictions I would of too.

He had been riding off road since he was 4 years old.

I'm glad he had to wait all the time limits and restrictions though.

[seedy]

39 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Years ago UK was easy but you would still have to be 16 year old to get a motorcycle provision DL.

17 years old for car.

Very strict now in UK my youngest son hated the restrictions I would of too.

He had been riding off road since he was 4 years old.

I'm glad he had to wait all the time limits and restrictions though.

Agree. Big difference today then back then.

We got a gasoline engine from an old washing machine my mom had, built a wooden frame, wheels from a baby carriage.

Used to roar around the neighborhood p-ing off all the neighbors !

Do that today and SWAT would be called out !

[khastan]

On 10/19/2021 at 9:07 PM, Kwasaki said:

IOM a great place for bikers went there twice a great memory.

For sure get ya self a s/h cheap bike doesn't have to be large cc.

I can ride whenever I want and when I do it just makes me feel more alive.

I just luv acceleration power of my 900 Blade never mind top speed. 

Here is what my wife calls my Mia Noi. ????

 

Could not agree more any true rider who has never been has missed something special. I hope it comes back soon so at least I can watch it and those titans on two wheels on TV. To be quite honest the people using the roads in Thailand scare the s--t out of me so its doubtful. I never seen such an appalling standard of driving and riding. I lived in Spain for 12 years before I came here in 2007 and drove all over that country.The Spanish are very aggresive road users and road rage is an everyday thing for them. You learn very quickly to adopt their driving style and not to hold them up or get in their way but they are nothing like and far less dangerous to the road users here.Yes fully agree riding a nice responsive bike is the stuff of dreams. and I do envy you. What a beautiful mistress you have!

[Kwasaki]

4 minutes ago, khastan said:

Could not agree more any true rider who has never been has missed something special. I hope it comes back soon so at least I can watch it and those titans on two wheels on TV. To be quite honest the people using the roads in Thailand scare the s--t out of me so its doubtful. I never seen such an appalling standard of driving and riding. I lived in Spain for 12 years before I came here in 2007 and drove all over that country.The Spanish are very aggresive road users and road rage is an everyday thing for them. You learn very quickly to adopt their driving style and not to hold them up or get in their way but they are nothing like and far less dangerous to the road users here.Yes fully agree riding a nice responsive bike is the stuff of dreams. and I do envy you. What a beautiful mistress you have!

Cheers, where I live is a good  place for a bike. 

We have ridden pretty everywhere in Thailand and I have never found it anymore of a problem than riding in UK in fact fine it better. 

 

On our ride outs we avoid morning and evening rush hours and try and route away from any big Cities, I would never want or need to ride into places like Bangkok. 

[khastan]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Cheers, where I live is a good  place for a bike. 

We have ridden pretty everywhere in Thailand and I have never found it anymore of a problem than riding in UK in fact fine it better. 

 

On our ride outs we avoid morning and evening rush hours and try and route away from any big Cities, I would never want or need to ride into places like Bangkok. 

What can I say,  mayby I am totally wrong and the roads are safe.  I thank you for your positive comments though and will take due notice of them.